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Dave_in-NC;2547944 said:
Dude I give you an A for effort. No he didn't, I didn't say he did.
He said the distractions and locker room problems are hurting this team.
He said people taking their complaints to the press are hurting this team.
So against your argument a PLAYER a respected player is proof that you are just wrong.

Now which player does what ratliff is saying the most?
Even Tabber admits that.
Dang it. I posted my post too late to win a doughnut.
 

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JordanTaber;2547948 said:
I fail to see how these things are "T.O. seeking the media." If anything, they're the media seeking him.

He doesn't have to do anything to draw attention to himself because the attention is always on him.

He doesn't come up with the Nicolette Sheridan idea, ABC does. He doesn't go to fitness magazines and ask to pose for them, they ask him. He doesn't ask for these interviews, he grants them.

Chad Johnson changes his last name to "Ocho Cinco."
How many people thought that was a good idea?

Bad example.
 

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Double Trouble;2547949 said:
Jeff Fisher said the #1 reason teams lose in the NFL is distractions.

What the hell does he know? We have JT and 5.:rolleyes:
 

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Hostile;2547956 said:
How many people thought that was a good idea?

Bad example.

How many people cared? Did it garner 2% of the media coverage Owens got for things based on a National Enquirer-caliber reporter's "anonymous source" rantings?
 

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Dave_in-NC;2547944 said:
Dude I give you an A for effort. No he didn't, I didn't say he did.
He said the distractions and locker room problems are hurting this team.
He said people taking their complaints to the press are hurting this team.
So against your argument a PLAYER a respected player is proof that you are just wrong.

Now which player does what ratliff is saying the most?
Even Tabber admits that.

Disagree...TO talking to the press is mild in comparision to what he is talking about and that is that Werder BS.

But we knew we would would disagree when we started this, huh?


Thanks for acting like you are over 10 and not going to the TO-lover stupidity though...

Goodnight.
 

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JordanTaber;2547961 said:
How many people cared? Did it garner 2% of the media coverage Owens got for things based on a National Enquirer-caliber reporter's "anonymous source" rantings?
Who cares how much attention it garnered? It was panned as a distraction.

You can't deny that.

Actually you can, but it would just pile on more crap about which you have no clue.
 

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Hostile;2547947 said:
Fixed the link for you and posted the gist.

Bet you a dime to a doughnut that it won't make a lick of difference.

If this doesn't help them understand that distraction are a problem they are what BB thinks they are, they need the helmets.
 

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Double Trouble;2547949 said:
Jeff Fisher said the #1 reason teams lose in the NFL is distractions.

What kind of distractions?

Bad uniforms? Players getting arrested? Players talking to the media?

I have been unable to locate any particular quote where Fisher actually says this; only paraphrasing from writers.
 

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Hostile;2547964 said:
Who cares how much attention it garnered? It was panned as a distraction.

You can't deny that.

Actually you can, but it would just pile on more crap about which you have no clue.

Wow. You missed the entire point I was making.

Why do you insist on inserting yourself into discussions when you don't realize what points are being made?
 

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JordanTaber;2547972 said:
What kind of distractions?

Bad uniforms? Players getting arrested? Players talking to the media?

I have been unable to locate any particular quote where Fisher actually says this; only paraphrasing from writers.
You need distracions defined to the nth degree?

Dude, that is sad.

I honestly feel sorry for you if you are that dense.
 

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Hostile;2547975 said:
You need distracions defined to the nth degree?

Dude, that is sad.

I honestly feel sorry for you if you are that dense.

Yeah, because the word "distraction" always means the exact same thing.

And I see you have no problem insulting me, but when I dare insult someone, here comes another PMed warning.

Somebody's on a nice internet power trip.
 

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JordanTaber;2547972 said:
What kind of distractions?

Bad uniforms? Players getting arrested? Players talking to the media?

I have been unable to locate any particular quote where Fisher actually says this; only paraphrasing from writers.
Gee, that's too bad. I've heard him talk about it.

I guess those writers you found were making that up, too.
 

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370 posts. Hos I would bet your dime back that 365 are defending owens. There's no sense in these discussions.

After a while even the entertainment value is gone.
 

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Double Trouble;2547983 said:
Gee, that's too bad. I've heard him talk about it.

I guess those writers you found were making that up, too.

Any time a writer paraphrases something from an interview there is reason to be suspicious. Especially when the alleged comment is undeniably idiotic.

I doubt Jeff Fisher is dumb enough to believe that media distractions are the number one reason teams fail.

Now, could "distractions" such as a coach taking a leave of absence, or a key player being suspended, or a team having to practice all of its games in another city due to a natural disaster in the area it represents cause problems with a team's ability to prepare and perform? Certainly.

Members of the media asking "What did you think of so-and-so's comments that he's not getting the ball enough?" instead of "what do you guys need to do to beat so-and-so" aren't going to affect a team's ability to prepare and perform.

You don't win and lose because of media sessions, as much as the mass media would love to believe they determine the outcome of games.

Tony Romo agrees with what I'm saying. Maybe he's clueless, too?
 

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JordanTaber;2547981 said:
Yeah, because the word "distraction" always means the exact same thing.

And I see you have no problem insulting me, but when I dare insult someone, here comes another PMed warning.

Somebody's on a nice internet power trip.
I insulted you the same way you insulted the person you got the warning for? Bad uniforms the same as what TO has offered?

You seem to think there are degrees of everything else except what got you in trouble.

How convenient.

Why not ask Jeff Fisher? Jay Ratliff? Jimmy Johnson? and the myriad of other players and coaches who said this stuff harms a team?

Oh yeah, because that would be honest and would ruin the agenda. I forget.
 

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Hostile;2547996 said:
I insulted you the same way you insulted the person you got the warning for? Bad uniforms the same as what TO has offered?

You seem to think there are degrees of everything else except what got you in trouble.

How convenient.

Why not ask Jeff Fisher? Jay Ratliff? Jimmy Johnson? and the myriad of other players and coaches who said this stuff harms a team?

Oh yeah, because that would be honest and would ruin the agenda. I forget.

Jay Ratliff said media distractions harmed the Cowboys?

As I said before, anyone who brings this stuff up as a reason for the team losing is just making lame excuses.

I do believe trying to find out who "ratted" might have been some sort of distraction...but was it a distraction that altered their performance on the football field? Let's be real here.

Unless you can point to specific incidents on the field that were the result of such "distractions," you really don't have a case.
 

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JordanTaber;2548005 said:
Jay Ratliff said media distractions harmed the Cowboys?

As I said before, anyone who brings this stuff up as a reason for the team losing is just making lame excuses.

I do believe trying to find out who "ratted" might have been some sort of distraction...but was it a distraction that altered their performance on the football field? Let's be real here.

Unless you can point to specific incidents on the field that were the result of such "distractions," you really don't have a case.

372 posts and still nothing worth reading. Happy New Year Jordan.:rolleyes:
 

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JordanTaber;2548005 said:
Jay Ratliff said media distractions harmed the Cowboys?

As I said before, anyone who brings this stuff up as a reason for the team losing is just making lame excuses.

I do believe trying to find out who "ratted" might have been some sort of distraction...but was it a distraction that altered their performance on the football field? Let's be real here.

Unless you can point to specific incidents on the field that were the result of such "distractions," you really don't have a case.
So you're saying they all performed to the best of their abilities?

:lmao2:
 

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a distraction is a distraction...TO has divided this team, bottom line, if you cant see it then i cant help you...and now we cant get rid of him so we are going to have to use him the best way possible...they didnt do that this year...but to be successful next year they will have to...if they dont we wont win more than 8 games...
 

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Distractions affect preparation, or to make it easy for you, practice. Generally, teams play how they practice. I've heard Fisher say something similar to that, and Jimmy Johnson as well.

Among others.

Players involved in a given distraction at a given time aren't going to admit that some sort of off the field squabble is hurting the team, especially during the season.
 
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