CFZ The NFL teaches another lesson this week

[Captain-Crash]

Because after the loss last week Dak is pissed off!

don't piss the baby dak off.

 

[starfan1]

There is discussion and there is whining. I see more of one than the other.
And another thing I learned in my life lessons….is not to be high on a horse…which I was not doing by my statement.

way more. 95% more Im so over the niner game its time to move on but with a select few here they will do their best to keep the masses riled up. As if Jerry cares what the zone thinks

 

[ArtClink]

Until proven otherwise with multiple playoff wins in the same season, why should we believe this team is different?

This. 28 seasons with the same subpar playoff results breed doubt among fans. But some like to call the doubters “haters” lol.

 

[Canada180]

You see it on our forum all the time. Fans look at the schedule and pick wins and losses. A bad loss means a team sucks. A big win makes a team unbeatable. Until the next week. The Cowboys looked unbeatable the first two weeks. Then the cards and niners had something to say about that.

So who had the browns winning today? The jets beating the e-girls? The chiefs struggling with the hapless broncos? The giants should have won in Buffalo tonight. Jalen Hurts now has more picks (7) than he had all of last year. None of us saw that right?

I have no idea what’s going to happen to our Cowboys tomorrow night against the chargers. But I can say nothing would surprise me. Whatever any of us think we know how things will turn out this year, we don’t know.

It‘s a long season. The Cowboys are still in the thick of everything. But I won’t buy any contender hype again until I see some grit and toughness from this team for a change.

A voice of reason. Be careful not to be labelled a troll or ant cowboy because you arent buying into the hype just yet. Elton John has one of my favorite songs"Ive seen that movie too" Fitting for this team. Oh... I love my Cowboys for over 50 years now.

 

[Cowfan75]

You see it on our forum all the time. Fans look at the schedule and pick wins and losses. A bad loss means a team sucks. A big win makes a team unbeatable. Until the next week. The Cowboys looked unbeatable the first two weeks. Then the cards and niners had something to say about that.

So who had the browns winning today? The jets beating the e-girls? The chiefs struggling with the hapless broncos? The giants should have won in Buffalo tonight. Jalen Hurts now has more picks (7) than he had all of last year. None of us saw that right?

I have no idea what’s going to happen to our Cowboys tomorrow night against the chargers. But I can say nothing would surprise me. Whatever any of us think we know how things will turn out this year, we don’t know.

It‘s a long season. The Cowboys are still in the thick of everything. But I won’t buy any contender hype again until I see some grit and toughness from this team for a change.

I picked the Jets to beat the Eagles. Those punks have been squeaking by all season and their luck ran out.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

There is discussion and there is whining. I see more of one than the other.
And another thing I learned in my life lessons….is not to be high on a horse…which I was not doing by my statement.

Alright man...I'm going in truce mode.

Let's get ready to rumble!

 

[Diehardblues]

You see it on our forum all the time. Fans look at the schedule and pick wins and losses. A bad loss means a team sucks. A big win makes a team unbeatable. Until the next week. The Cowboys looked unbeatable the first two weeks. Then the cards and niners had something to say about that.

So who had the browns winning today? The jets beating the e-girls? The chiefs struggling with the hapless broncos? The giants should have won in Buffalo tonight. Jalen Hurts now has more picks (7) than he had all of last year. None of us saw that right?

I have no idea what’s going to happen to our Cowboys tomorrow night against the chargers. But I can say nothing would surprise me. Whatever any of us think we know how things will turn out this year, we don’t know.

It‘s a long season. The Cowboys are still in the thick of everything. But I won’t buy any contender hype again until I see some grit and toughness from this team for a change.

Yesterday was a great example that On Any Given Sunday still applies. And as Jimmy stated in post game show that if you don’t have your best performance leaves you vulnerable.

But over a season we still can predict the teams ( at least with more regularity than individual weeks)most likely to be there like these teams upset today.

I don’t think anyone is arguing SF and Phi still aren’t the top 2 teams in NFC and expect them to be there at the end of the season.

 

[Diehardblues]

Week to week league. We see proof every Sunday. You can't read to much into each week.

One thing is ALWAYS true - you are never as good as you look on your best day and never as bad as you look on your worst day.

If you consider both the above statements, it's easier to make sense of the season as it goes along.

Individual weeks have always been difficult to predict and why the NFL is biggest money maker for Sportsbooks. But we still on the most part can make predictions for who is more likely to be in the hunt at end of season.

 

[Diehardblues]

The best teams often sleep walk through games against bad teams, and sometimes they even lose.

But those same teams know how to step up in the games that really matter and perform.

That's not us.

Yep…the NFL is too talented to have a poor performance and not be left vulnerable to lesser opponents.

 

[Diehardblues]

One thing I believe happens is that for some teams, certain games stand out on the schedule.

Sometimes that's a division rival or conference rival who is consirdered the favorite or sometimes it's simply because the team is popular at the time.

Winning in-season Super Bowl-like games can help a struggling team get on or back on track but it can also make a good team over-confident when playing lesser opponents.

The Cowboys had that happen against the Cardinals after embarassing the Giants and Jets.

They beat the Patriots easily (like other teams are doing) and then got out-played, out-coached and out-muscled by a really good team. Then that really good team goes out this week and loses to a team they expected to beat easily.

The difference in team performace each game is a lot closer than most people realize, including fans as well as the players themselves.

A couple of bad bounces, fumbles, interceptions, special team scores or blunders and even a missed tackle or two can greatly impact the outcome of a game.

If the Cowboys played the Giants in week #2 with the same roster on both teams, I doubt it would have been another 40-0 blow out just like if the Cowboys played the 49ers again right now, I doubt it would be a 42-10 blowout.

The only thing the regular season does is help decide who gets to play in the playoffs. The playoffs do not care what your record was in the regular season. It cares about one thing .. are you playing well enough to win right now.

For example, in MLB, the top 5 teams in the 2023 season lost in the playoffs.

I cannot speak for all Cowboys fans, but for me, I no longer care about playoff seedings. For most teams it is better to play at home in the playoffs, but I grew up playing sports and one important thing I learned was good teams find a way to win games when it matters.

There are no excuses. A good team finds a way to win the game when it matters.

The Cowboys have had great regular season teams many times over the last 28 years yet have failed to make it to the NFC Championship game much less the Super Bowl.

I don't care if they go 9-8 as long as 1) they make the playoffs and 2) they win every post-season game they play.

Yea, no doubt there was an obvious emotional letdown for SF this week. You can’t just show up in the NFL.

The only thing I’d argue is the playoffs do care how you did in regular season and how seeds can impact results. But I get your point as if you don’t play or perform well in playoffs it doesn’t matter.

In NFL and single eliminations the best team doesn’t always win. And teams get hot at the right time like we saw in MLB which multiple game format usually does better at avoiding lesser teams from winning but pitching rotation factors in as well and again, some lesser teams simply get hot. I think this was first year that every team was swept in first round. The exception isn’t the rule. It just provides that anything can happen

While the Cowboys have had the #1 seed twice this era , I’m not sure I’d argue those were great teams. They were obviously very good teams those particular seasons but hadn’t had much prior playoff experience nor success as they lost to teams, QB‘s and HC’s who had playoff history and success.

And we were only like the second team since new playoff format from 1990 to be upset as #1 seed in divisional round so definitely not the norm.

 

[john van brocklin]

You are gonna have bad losses. Browns are not better than the 49ers and Jets are not better than the Eagles. These losses happen.

stuff happens... LOL

 

[john van brocklin]

That loss was terrible the second it happened. They are a very bad team with no real future. They were one of the teams on the radar for going winless. And not only did we lose to them, they completely dominated us up front and we made Dobbs look like a very good QB. It will always be a terrible loss. Need to balance it out somehow and steal a game we might not should win.

Exactly, how we gonna feel, if we lose the division because of that loss at the end of the season ?

 

[Diehardblues]

Aren’t Vegas odds always based on what they think bettors will do? Not what makes the most sense. Yeah, I’m shocked we’re favored.

Yes, the lines are set at what they think the betters will do. But there is a formula using stat lines, etc professional handicappers use to help determine the line including being home or away.

But once those are set the Houses goal is a line that will generate equal wagering on both sides. If it’s imbalanced then they continue moving the line to attempt the balance. They make their 10% Juice or commission win Or lose.

If the imbalance is more than a casino or bookmaker wants to take on they will place bets at other Houses to cover any potential for the pendulum swaying too far with their betters. And how lines can vary at different venues.

We opened as 2 1/2 favorites but has closed to 1 1/2 as more wagers are taking the Chargers. The home team basically gets 3 points. Which means if this was at home would be 4 1/2 now .

I think the line is about right. Almost a pick ‘em game since it’s in LA.

 

[GMO415]

The media and some fans are quick to write off DAL out of the top 5 teams after their first loss. Now that the Almighty 49ers and the iggles lose let's see everyone move the goal post for them.

 

[Diehardblues]

As Barry Switzer once said, "There are no East Carolinas on the schedule" in regards to the NFL.

Actually Jimmy said that.

 

[Diehardblues]

In 1971 the Dallas Cowboys lot to the New Orlean Saints who were still 16 years away from their very first winning season. To top it off, the Saints quarterback was a rookie, some guy by the name of Archie Manning.

That season they also lost to the Chicago Bears who didn't even have a quarterback. They had a big RB that occasionally threw the ball. Bobby Douglas completed 40.2% of hjs passes that season and threw three times as many INT's as he did TD's.

They also lost to Washington who had not been to the playoffs since the end of World War II.

They started the 1971 season 4-3.......and won the Super Bowl.

NFL teams don't have to look dominant in September and October. It's all about which teams are healthy and peaks in December.

There is only a marginal difference in the talent level of the best and worst teams in the NFL. The teams that play as a team, are well coached, healthy, and make big plays late in the season are the true contenders.

I recall that season well too. But remember we were already a seasoned playoff team. Been to SB the previous season and 5 consecutive seasons in the playoffs. That team had already played for 3 NFL championships.

 

[Diehardblues]

The Niner offense lost CM and Deebo in that game, but even so they missed a 43 yarder to win the game. I wouldn’t take anything from Cleveland though, after all , they are the leagues top ranked defense. They are built to throttle offenses in a conference that features Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert , Allen. Etc. This is what many of us were screaming for in the off season…… when you don’t have an elite QB, you load the defense.

Those are huge factors losing best two offensive playmakers and basically a chip shot 43 yarder. You could tell the Browns were shocked on the sidelines.

While the Browns were 9 1/2 point dogs at home ( mainly that high with Watson out) they were picked before the season with Watson returning as a potential playoff team. They do have 2 other wins now at 3-3.

Not as bad of loss as Dallas to AZ which is still their only win and may not see more than 3 wins all season.

 

[Diehardblues]

Then don't complain and berate others who do choose to hold the Cowboys organization accountable for failure. Holding the franchise and owner accountable is the job of fans because no one else, not the yes men, not the local media, no one other than the fans will do that.

So, you can choose to be a fan how you wish to, but do not be a hypocrite and project your way onto others then berate them when they don't conform to it.

This^^^^^
Just like in mainstream society we have a segment of fans intent on everyone conducting themselves as they see fit.

 

[Diehardblues]

This. 28 seasons with the same subpar playoff results breed doubt among fans. But some like to call the doubters “haters” lol.

Yea, how about those who still have hope , want to believe but are still suspect.

I see nothing wrong with our recent history to be a little hesitant to totally buy in. Show me the money.

 

[Whirlwin]

So the issue is only from one game? It was the first and only time?
Okay.

You can’t look at the past, every team, every locker room every season is different