The NFL, UFC, and NBA want to speed up the process of removing illegal sports streams

[MikeB80]

Baseball doesnt come close to the numbers the NFL does. Thats why the NFL is more expensive. Baseball, for you, may be a better product, but for me it isnt even close. I am PASSIONATE about football, more specifically the Dallas Cowboys. I live in Ca and I will be going to the opener against the Jets, game in Phoenix against the Cards, to LA against the Chargers, to Niners game and thinking about back to Dallas for Giants game in Nov. That isnt cheap and ONLY the Cowboys games could make me fly across the country for an entertainment event.

its worth it to me, even though it might not be to you. And going to those games wont force me to eat top ramen all month.

Congratulations?

 

[Flamma]

Lars wont, but other bands will. Are you saying that those less fortunate have a built in excuse to steal the product?

I bet you think very differetly about all those involved in flash mobs running through high dollar stores???

I understand your point. But you can't possibly believe it's that simple. Someone has to keep price gouging in check. People had a fit when some clown bought up a ton of hand sanitizer and was selling it at an inflated cost on Amazon. Big business never has a problem price gouging, but if your average person does it, get out the pitchforks. The NFL charges you to park in their lot to watch their game. That's ridiculous. Imagine if your local grocery store charged you to park? The NFL gets away with it because they're the only game in town.

Again, I agree with your basic point. I just don't give a damn about how much money the NFL loses from streaming. Everyone does something similar given the opportunity.

 

[glimmerman]

Lars wont, but other bands will. Are you saying that those less fortunate have a built in excuse to steal the product?

I bet you think very differetly about all those involved in flash mobs running through high dollar stores???

Lol. Is there really flash mobs. Not where I am at. There is no excuse for stealing anything. But when the example makes it sound like your only gonna bank millions instead of more millions it don’t sound like you need sympathy. And yeah I get it those people making those millions has alot of bills to pay.

If the links were not out there to watch then people wouldn’t click and watch. We might be surprised at how many that watch for free that could easily pay for it.

 

[DallasEast]

So who is exactly is offering "more affordable," viewing options that they are going after?"

in this instance, it would be anyone providing a stream, not licensed by the NFL, NBA, etc., and charging a viewing usage fee. Not all illegal streams are free but more economical and combined with varied bundled programming packages outside of sports entertainment.

 

[DallasEast]

what problems did you have? I had ZERO issues with TNF on Amazon.

Good for you. I encountered occasional buffering and picture freezing, issues I have not experienced with regularity with other live streaming broadcasts.

 

[SultanOfSix]

another person crying about the money someone else makes.

No one’s crying. It was a joke.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

how so... please explain? Because one is a physical product and one is digital?
A product is a product.

Because if I want to buy a shirt, I don’t have to buy it at Nordstroms. There’s thousands of different options for me to buy a shirt.
If the only place to legally buy a shirt is at Nordstroms and they dictate what shirt I can buy, when I can buy it, and where I can buy it, and at whatever price they want to charge me, what do you think will happen? A black market for shirts is going to happen. Sports streaming is basically the black market for sports.

All we need to do is look at what happened to the music industry. They forced me to buy an entire album at an inflated price even though I only wanted one song. Enter Napster and the dawn of pirating of music. They knew they couldn’t stop it, so they eventually changed how we buy music. Now I can buy my music one song at a time at reasonable prices. For 10 bucks a month, I can stream just about any music I would ever want and the music industry still makes gobs of money. When’s the last time you heard anyone talk about pirating music?

As greedy as the music industry is, they at least got it right when it comes to the way we get our music.

The sports world needs to do something similar if they want to curb illegal streaming.

 

[Reid1boys]

I understand your point. But you can't possibly believe it's that simple. Someone has to keep price gouging in check. People had a fit when some clown bought up a ton of hand sanitizer and was selling it at an inflated cost on Amazon. Big business never has a problem price gouging, but if your average person does it, get out the pitchforks. The NFL charges you to park in their lot to watch their game. That's ridiculous. Imagine if your local grocery store charged you to park? The NFL gets away with it because they're the only game in town.

Again, I agree with your basic point. I just don't give a damn aboout t ut how much money the NFL loses from streaming. Everyone does something similar given the opportunity.

you dont have to watch the NFL. They are not the only game in toen. You could spend your entertainment dollars at the movies, concerts, cruises, out to dinner, baseball, basketball.... tons of stuff you could spend your money on besides the NFL.
If a store charged for parking, id shop elsewhere.
Ive been to dozens of NFL game sand rarely park at the stadium parking. AT&T has tons of off site parking for half the price within walking distance. There are always options.

Price gouging is taking advantage of an emergency an djacking up prices. There is no such emergency to watch NFL games. It is a take it or leave it type of thing.
I will say this again... i am no moralist telling you or anyone else if they should stream or not. I just have a problem with people trying to rationalize what they are doing by saying the NFL makes too much, thus it is ok for me to steal their product. Just admit you would steal the product no matter what they charged...... because you can.

 

[Reid1boys]

Lars wont, but other bands will. Are you saying that those less fortunate have a built in excuse to steal the product?

Lol. Is there really flash mobs. Not where I am at. There is no excuse for stealing anything. But when the example makes it sound like your only gonna bank millions instead of more millions it don’t sound like you need sympathy. And yeah I get it those people making those millions has alot of bills to pay.

If the links were not out there to watch then people wouldn’t click and watch. We might be surprised at how many that watch for free that could easily pay for it.

I do ok... so the guy living on welfare can say , well he has several cars in his driveway, so if I steal his catalytic converter its ok, because he will be ok to buy a new one??????? its all releative.

 

[BermyStar]

For everyone they get removed, another one will pop up. Someone will find a way around it.

For every one that goes down 10 pop up

 

[Reid1boys]

in this instance, it would be anyone providing a stream, not licensed by the NFL, NBA, etc., and charging a viewing usage fee. Not all illegal streams are free but more economical and combined with varied bundled programming packages outside of sports entertainment.

lol.... they are providing you a stolen product and I find it hilarious for you to say they are offering a "More affordable service." How is that different than the dud on the corner selling stolen tools from home depot, or stolen jewelry??? I mean... home depot is making a ton of money, so that is my rationalization to buy their stolen products at a much more "Fair and reasonable," price than those greedy guys at home depot?


Rationalize however you want... it is the same thing.

 

[Reid1boys]

Because if I want to buy a shirt, I don’t have to buy it at Nordstroms. There’s thousands of different options for me to buy a shirt.
If the only place to legally buy a shirt is at Nordstroms and they dictate what shirt I can buy, when I can buy it, and where I can buy it, and at whatever price they want to charge me, what do you think will happen? A black market for shirts is going to happen. Sports streaming is basically the black market for sports.

All we need to do is look at what happened to the music industry. They forced me to buy an entire album at an inflated price even though I only wanted one song. Enter Napster and the dawn of pirating of music. They knew they couldn’t stop it, so they eventually changed how we buy music. Now I can buy my music one song at a time at reasonable prices. For 10 bucks a month, I can stream just about any music I would ever want and the music industry still makes gobs of money. When’s the last time you heard anyone talk about pirating music?

As greedy as the music industry is, they at least got it right when it comes to the way we get our music.

The sports world needs to do something similar if they want to curb illegal streaming.

lol........ again, your rationalization of theft is hilarious. you are a law and order kind of guy I bet, you support the blue.... until they go after someone you like. You are law and order... until they have laws you dont like...lol

 

[DallasEast]

lol.... they are providing you a stolen product and I find it hilarious for you to say they are offering a "More affordable service." How is that different than the dud on the corner selling stolen tools from home depot, or stolen jewelry??? I mean... home depot is making a ton of money, so that is my rationalization to buy their stolen products at a much more "Fair and reasonable," price than those greedy guys at home depot?


Rationalize however you want... it is the same thing.

Your logic disputes legality, not affordability.

 

[Tussinman]

Well.... Lars was right. Illegal downloads have decimated new music. Bands simply make zero profit from making new music.... so they dont.
2nd... if a dude was so poor he was eating ramen so he could watch football, he shouldnt have been watching football... he should have been at work.

Not only that people blame Lars but Lars actually didn't even care about the money loss.

People actually forget that the reason Metallica sued Napster was because somebody hacked their studio and released a pre finished version of a song that hadn't been released and members of the Metallica management/studio started hearing the song being played on the radio. They traced it back to Napster

Their issue was more artistical control and freedom. Hearing an unfinished song that you're currently working on on the radio because somebody hacked your studio computer and shared it on Napster is pretty messed up there's no arguing that

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

lol........ again, your rationalization of theft is hilarious. you are a law and order kind of guy I bet, you support the blue.... until they go after someone you like. You are law and order... until they have laws you dont like...lol

Ummm…….Wow

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

If only there was a way to watch football and help the local economy. For me, when I can't get Cowboys games (because I live in Cleveland), I like going to sports bars like the Winking Lizard. I watch the games, the restaurant earns my money and stays in business, and I save money compared to what I'd have had to pay YouTube for Sunday Ticket. Everyone wins.

 

[infamousstyles]

I pay for peacock yearly just so I can watch the wwe's ple. If ufc had a subscription model that was reasonable I'd probably pay for that and a modified Sunday ticket based off the cowboys. Problem is they all are greedy and like to leave money on the table. Maybe they'll get it one day.

 

[diamonddelts]

If I can't watch the game via what I currently have, I am finding something else to do. Go ahead, NFL, keep pushing me because I already have issues with you. Keep adding more...

You will be back. They always come back.

 

[dogberry]

I don't listen or watch these streams. But I'm curious as to how they will be stopped?

 

[Longboysfan]

Half of you are going to jail....

All Eagle fans inclusive of this?