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lol There sure are a lot of posters quoting these "dirty yards" stuff. Funny thing to me is, I had really never heard that phrase until Garrett came out with it...now, because he said it about Murray, all of a sudden some posters are worried about those magical "dirty yards"

It is not a new term and Garrett didn't invent it. Call it tough yards, move the chains a few inches or whatever other phrase you wish. It still means that we "might" need a running back who can push the pile for that crucial first down like Murray did many times. That "bruiser" may or may not be on the roster, we won't know until real game action.

Question.....why can't some of us be concerned about our current RB situation without being labeled haters and negative nancy's?

Everything may turn out fine and dandy though :cool:
 

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Then that means you are not "sure". Try replacing "I'm not sure" with "I'm uncertain" something won't happen. We know you think you know everything Cowboys, but stop with all the passive aggressive crap.
Wait wait wait! Hold up. He never said "I'm not sure."
 

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It is not a new term and Garrett didn't invent it. Call it tough yards, move the chains a few inches or whatever other phrase you wish. It still means that we "might" need a running back who can push the pile for that crucial first down like Murray did many times. That "bruiser" may or may not be on the roster, we won't know until real game action.

Question.....why can't some of us be concerned about our current RB situation without being labeled haters and negative nancy's?

Everything may turn out fine and dandy though :cool:

Have I called you or anyone else a "hater" or a "negative Nancy"?
 

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If you've never said you were sure about something football related and never once ended up being wrong you're living in a fantasy world.
Fantasy world. lol.

Search the archives. Aid your searches with the aid of Google. Except for what is stated in my signature line, there will be rare occurrences where I have posted something on this site as an absolute. Can you say the same?
 

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No, but I thought you were lumping me in with the "dirty" yards discussion :D

No...it's just that I had not remembered anything about "dirty yards" before until Garrett used that phrase, now everyone uses it. Hell, I cannot remember that ever being said about Emmitt. lol
 

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Most of Randle's opportunities came after Murray softened up the defense. If Randle could take advantage of what the OL provides Murray wouldn't have received almost 400 carries last season and Randle would have received more than 51 carries. From what I saw watching the Seattle game and from watching Randle's career he wouldn't have had the staying power to plow through the Legion of Doom over 4 quarters and 28 carries that's my opinion. Murray has had some very productive games behind every OL the Cowboys have had since 2011. None of the backs the Cowboys have had the past 4 seasons including Randle has run as efficiently when given the opportunity over a number of carries except Murray which is why he was the established starter and team rode him hard last season.

The Seattle defense wore out because the Dallas offense kept the ball for almost 40 of the 60 min. of the game. It wore out because its own offense kept going 3-and-out and punting the ball back to the Dallas offense. It wore out because of the OL and TE's bowling them over for 2/3 of the entire game. It wore out because Romo kept converting his 3rd down throws and extending the drives so that Murray could have some more chances to run the ball.

They didn't wear out because Murray was hitting them hard at the end of his runs. I remember seeing about 3 or so hits that Murray delivered to DB's, but I also remember seeing Randle do it at the end of his big run.

If it was simply the size and toughness of the running back... M Lynch would have worn Dallas out and gained a lot of yards. He didn't because Seattle didn't have the OL to do so, or the passing game to extend drives and wear out the other team's defense. There is no doubt that Lynch is better at the "dirty yards" than Murray is... but that mattered not at all in that game, even with Dallas turning the ball over a few times.

It was a combination of all of those things that had Seattle on the ropes by the end of the game. It was the cumulative effect of all of that which was wearing down Seattle's D and showing the entire nation what it looks like for a defense to be whipped and want no more. By the last few min of the game... the Legion of Boom just wanted the game to end, and you could tell plain as day.

I absolutely loved watching that... and I'm sure you did too.

The issue that I have is that so many are equating playing that kind of offense with having Demarco Murray, when in reality, it was a combination of all the things I mentioned. Murray was just a small part of that.

If I thought that had walked out of the door along with Murray... I'd be upset too. The thing is, I think it was the totality of the Dallas offense. Murray couldn't have done it on his own, just like a bigger, stronger Lynch couldn't do it on his own either.

I'm not saying Randle won't do well what I'm saying is I'm not convinced he, McFadden or any of the Cowboys backs will provide the dirty yards that Murray provided last season that kept the chains moving consistently and kept Romo from having to put the ball up 35 plus times a game. Julius Jones use to break off long runs but he wasn't consistent over the course of a game which is why he flamed out. Any back can break off a 30-40 yard run then average 3.6 yards the rest of the game. That simply is not going to cut it if the Cowboys expect to be the team they were last season and improve on it.

Julius Jones didn't have anywhere near the same caliber offense that he was playing with... the OL in particular. His time running behind Torrin Tucker, Al Johnson, Pat McQuistan and Rob Pettiti wasn't very productive. That line didn't give him consistent lanes or movement up front. He did have a couple of good OL on that unit... but as a whole, that OL was poorly coached and didn't work very well.

I'm not going to argue about this very much though. I have no more idea of how it will play out than you do. We do want the same thing though: the run game to continue to build off of what we saw last season. I think it will and you worry that it won't. That's cool though.
 
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Fantasy world. lol.

Search the archives. Aid your searches with the aid of Google. Except for what is stated in my signature line, there will be rare occurrences where I have posted something on this site as an absolute. Can you say the same?

I've posted many football absolutes and was wrong only once last season. Absolutes may be rare occurrences for you but you just like everyone on this board has posted them....nuff said!
 

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Fantasy world. lol.

Search the archives. Aid your searches with the aid of Google. Except for what is stated in my signature line, there will be rare occurrences where I have posted something on this site as an absolute. Can you say the same?

I have never seen where you speak in absolutes. But, posters do that all the time with the caveat that "I hope I'm wrong" or "I will eat crow". lol
 

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If you've never said you were sure about something football related and never once ended up being wrong you're living in a fantasy world.
I've posted many football absolutes and was wrong only once last season. Absolutes may be rare occurrences for you but you just like everyone on this board has posted them....nuff said!
Well, there is a thin line between "never" and "rare." lol.

Stay strong KJJ!
 

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I've posted many football absolutes and was wrong only once last season. Absolutes may be rare occurrences for you but you just like everyone on this board has posted them....nuff said!

What was the "one" thing you got wrong last year? I can't wait to read this! lol
 

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Well, there is a thin line between "never" and "rare." lol.

Stay strong KJJ!

Oh....dude, he gave you the "nuff said"! lol Damn! You gonna be on his ignore list if you keep this up!
 

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Oh....dude, he gave you the "nuff said"! lol Damn! You gonna be on his ignore list if you keep this up!
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No...it's just that I had not remembered anything about "dirty yards" before until Garrett used that phrase, now everyone uses it. Hell, I cannot remember that ever being said about Emmitt. lol

I have heard the term all my life. You are very old, so I think your mind is just slipping lol.
 

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Well, there is a thin line between "never" and "rare." lol.

Stay strong KJJ!

The point is you've done it just like everyone else here. FANS do it all the time telling everyone "no way the Cowboys lose and you can book it!" That was repeated by many (Not me) prior to the Washington game last season. lol I'm not as sure about a lot of things as Cowboy FANS are.
 
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