RoyTheHammer;4629913 said:
Was OJ convicted? From a legal standpoint, your case doesn't hold up.
Yes it does.
Because you would have to be a fool to believe that OJ did not do it and have the same foolish, stubborn belief of the jury to think that OJ was innocent. Not only that, part of the reason OJ was found not guilty is the jury probably did not want another Rodney King style riots which crippled the city of LA.
Was Rae Carruth convicted?
Hey, no actual proof he paid people to kill his wife and unborn child. Just things like evidence and facts which could lead to people, particularly experienced law enforcement, to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that Carruth was guilty.
Is that a reasonable conclusion to draw? Sure. Do we know that's what Joe told Curley to do? Nope.
OJ was found with blood in his Bronco matching DNA evidence. But, we have no real proof that he was actually at the crime scene and never discovered the murder weapon. Is that a reasonable conclusion to draw? Sure. Do we know that's what OJ did?
I guess not in your book.
Is it possible Joe could have said something along the lines of, "Listen, i've known this man for years and he seems like a good guy."? I think that's reasonable as well. Doesn't mean he told Curley that they should cover it up and not go to the police.
No, Paterno just never said a thing about it since 1998. Not to mention the stockpile of evidence that Freeh had from handwritten notes to millions of e-mails. I tend to trust a man who was a US District Court judge and a Director of the FBI to have the mountain of evidence and come up an accurate conclusion of what really happened.
Hell, Joe went to the university police head with the initial information he received.
No, Paterno did not.
Schultz is a beancounter. He does NOT have legal arresting authority in the state of Pennsylvania. He was there to oversee the budge of many departments, one of which was the State College Police Department. And according to those who have spoken about him, he does not even have the authority to hire or fire people in the State College PD.
It's essentially like going to the accountant of a police department to report a crime.
All im saying is we want to crucify one man based on an opinion.. for something that's completely out of character with the rest of his life.
It's not out of character. Dr. Vicky Triponey was not allowed to discipline Penn State football players when they got into fights with normal students while she served as Chief Disciplinarian at the school. When she pressed the matter further, she was told that Paterno said that he would stop all fundraising until he got his way and eventually forced Triponey out of the school. And she has e-mail proof of this happening.
In 2008, ESPN questioned Paterno over the arrest of 46 different football players (and IIRC, one of whom assaulted and undercover cop) along with the 163 counts that were brought forth against them since 2002. That's an average of about 8 players and 27 counts per year.
What was Paterno's response?
He claimed it was a 'witch hunt' and walked off in a huff.
What was Paterno's response when the Sandusky story and his coverup broke?
A 'witch hunt' and walked off in a huff.
This was NOT out of character. It's completely IN CHARACTER with who the person Joe Paterno was. He made sure to protect his players from being punished by Dr. Triponey, just like he made sure to paint Penn State as the victim when 46 different players were arrested in a 5-year span in the so call 'squeeky clean' football program.
Cue the "you loves da JoePaws" nonsense..
It's not nonsense because you have continued to insult our intelligence with your own nonsense. And the reality is that it is clear that you honestly think that Paterno did nothing wrong and is being railroaded, you just don't want to say that in order to save face.
You have tried to protest Paterno's innocence, then trivialized his role, claim that people here would have done the same thing, and now are arguing a report conducted by a man who was a Director of the FBI for 10 years all the while denying the fact that there is proof that Paterno would go as far as to stop fundraising if he couldn't 'discipline' unruly players himself.
YR
