CFZ The Perspective Cooper Rush Provided

[Coogiguy03]

Seriously, what? What did he say that was so "out there?"

Yeah i'm confused too

 

[Acceptablename]

Put down your torch and pitchfork. I’m not here to tell you Cooper Rush is Tom Brady 2.0.

Daks injury provided a very interesting situation this year. It showed the difference between our franchise qb with a really good team and a undrafted guy with a really good team.

Now we have the full picture. Cooper actually played solidly to win 4 out of 5 games, considering 3 (almost 4) teams were playoff teams, and one almost won the afc ship and the other will probably win it all. Against the litmus of what Cooper faced each week, he played consistently. Not as a great qb, but as a decent one on a good team that didn’t make stupid mistakes.

Which brings us to Dak. In a word, inconsistent…in record, in play, and in fan opinions. He won some games extravagantly, and had some gut wrenchingly pointless losses. I think comparing him to Cooper, he solidly confirmed what a lot of people have said on this board. He’s too inconsistent to get the team all the way. Everyone loves the Dak that played Minnesota or TB in the playoffs. Everyone hates the Dak that played the 49ers or TB in the opener.

Through a mixture of flaws that randomly appear play to play, game to game, I think it’s time to admit the gap between Rush and Dak is way smaller than the gap between Dak and top tier qbs. It’s just the inconsistency. Turns out he’s exactly what we drafted…a day 3 project pick. Hopefully the project ends in a year.

 

[diamonddelts]

Picard was so underrated. But even he's never seen a dimension like this in all his travels.

 

[Runwildboys]

No, they weren't. The few Dak defenders are just very loud, and fooled you into thinking there were more of them.

Last poll on Dak showed that the high majority considered him decent, not great.

It's the same as his haters. It seems like there are more than there are, because they're extremely vocal and extremely extreme.

 

[Acceptablename]

The Rush wormhole it’s too scary to enter

 

[Gaede]

What happened to Rush in the game against the Eagles? After 4 games teams started to catch up to him. As much as I recognize Dak's limitations, we have to admit with Dak back the Cowboys offense was averaging 10 points a game more than when Rush was QBing. Dak is a better QB. They just needs to figure out how to get him to stop throwing the ball to the other team. Let's see what a new OC can do with him. But Rush is not the answer.

Exactly. We won some games but let's not forget how lethargic the offense was. Rush is a nice backup because he stays calm and runs the plays, but he is so physically limited that he cannot ever be more than that.

Criticism of Dak totally fair, but thinking he and Rush are on the same level is absurd

 

[removed_20241105]

Regardless if you're a Rush supporter or not, you have to admit it wasn't enough sample size. Going back to 2021 he was 5-1. He had a bad game against the Eagles who are in the Super Bowl. So you're just going to just throw out anything he did because of one bad game? If that applied to Dak he'd be gone a long time ago, including the last game he played in. Rush threw 3 INTs the only 3 of his career, but still got us to within 9 points which isn't that bad. If Dak wasn't here I would have liked to see what he did with a full season.

And a full off-season.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Seriously, what? What did he say that was so "out there?"

The rams game was a perfect example of his limitations as a passer. The defense was a different animal in the first half of the season, so your telling me that them falling apart was Daks fault? The defense got bailed out by the offense a few time in the latter half of the season.

 

[G2]

It's the same as his haters. It seems like there are more than there are, because they're extremely vocal and extremely extreme.

I wouldn't use fans here as a gauge for the fanbase, lol

 

[nightrain]

Cooper Rush is what he is, a competent back up.

 

[Runwildboys]

I wouldn't use fans here as a gauge for the fanbase, lol

Oh no, I was referring specifically to the people here. Anonymity brings out the worst in some people.

 

[G2]

Oh no, I was referring specifically to the people here. Anonymity brings out the worst in some people.

Fair point.

 

[doomsday9084]

IMO, the team needs to play with Dak like it did under Rush. More conservative, more run oriented, less turnovers and 3 and outs.

The defense played great when Rush was in and its not a coincidence. Even if you score less points playing like this you will win more games and that's the purpose.

 

[kevm3]

What happened to Dak in that 49er game. 12 points?

They faced the best defense in the league. You think Cooper Rush would have lit the 49ers up?

 

[CATCH17]

Exactly. We won some games but let's not forget how lethargic the offense was. Rush is a nice backup because he stays calm and runs the plays, but he is so physically limited that he cannot ever be more than that.

Criticism of Dak totally fair, but thinking he and Rush are on the same level is absurd

Completely agree. But unfortunately Dak and Rush will get you to the same place which is nowhere.

Without Dak’s mega deal Rush might actually be able to get us further in the post season than Dak by simply just doing nothing.

 

[CATCH17]

IMO, the team needs to play with Dak like it did under Rush. More conservative, more run oriented, less turnovers and 3 and outs.

The defense played great when Rush was in and its not a coincidence. Even if you score less points playing like this you will win more games and that's the purpose.

Just read this after I made my post.

 

[CATCH17]

All of Cooper Rush's wins have come when the opponent was held to 17 points or less. He's never been asked to win a shootout, which is good because he couldn't do it.

Rush's best attribute is not making mistakes. What happened the one time an opponent broke 20 points? He made mistakes and the Cowboys lost. He's extremely limited.

Brock Purdy was limited too and they won because we asked Dak Prescott to play without limits and he gave them the game.

 

[blueblood70]

Put down your torch and pitchfork. I’m not here to tell you Cooper Rush is Tom Brady 2.0.

Daks injury provided a very interesting situation this year. It showed the difference between our franchise qb with a really good team and a undrafted guy with a really good team.

Now we have the full picture. Cooper actually played solidly to win 4 out of 5 games, considering 3 (almost 4) teams were playoff teams, and one almost won the afc ship and the other will probably win it all. Against the litmus of what Cooper faced each week, he played consistently. Not as a great qb, but as a decent one on a good team that didn’t make stupid mistakes.

Which brings us to Dak. In a word, inconsistent…in record, in play, and in fan opinions. He won some games extravagantly, and had some gut wrenchingly pointless losses. I think comparing him to Cooper, he solidly confirmed what a lot of people have said on this board. He’s too inconsistent to get the team all the way. Everyone loves the Dak that played Minnesota or TB in the playoffs. Everyone hates the Dak that played the 49ers or TB in the opener.

Through a mixture of flaws that randomly appear play to play, game to game, I think it’s time to admit the gap between Rush and Dak is way smaller than the gap between Dak and top tier qbs. It’s just the inconsistency. Turns out he’s exactly what we drafted…a day 3 project pick. Hopefully the project ends in a year.

you have poor memory.

Rush had our offense bottom 10 in scoring and 3rd downs were horrid.

he wasnt even a bus driver, he steered the bus on cruise control, that defense , sts, and OL with Run game was playing at an elite level, Dak wins all those game IMO including the Philly game.. its easy to see if you aren't blinded by the appearance Daks INTs were all his fault,. with less of run game, not the same defense, wrs tipping passs to the defense, then Turpin and maher start getting shaky.. odd you gloss over the very big differences in team play.. No way Rush could stay in many of those games dak had to score 28-40 points,

Rush doesn't make mistakes or got lucky?

Washington game - 2 Ints getting called back over plenty, they still happened.
Rams game 107 total yards he looked like trash oh 2 fumbles, we didn't lose them but they happened.
Phily game- 3 Ints

almost 7 TOs in those 5 games. he got lucky, that happens but hes far from mistake free. Over time you get exposed see Dalton that who they are .

he was exposed but we didn't pay for it as the team was covering them up.

Injuries along to OL, rb, and defense had the team playing differently and Dak was needed to come in and take that offense to another level regardless of what you think., Rush could not function at all with no run game shaky OL, and skill payers making those mistakes etc

you are way off base..

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

All of Cooper Rush's wins have come when the opponent was held to 17 points or less. He's never been asked to win a shootout, which is good because he couldn't do it.

Rush's best attribute is not making mistakes. What happened the one time an opponent broke 20 points? He made mistakes and the Cowboys lost. He's extremely limited.

I agree. And as I said before, I'm all for the Cowboys moving on from Dak as the QB. But Cooper Rush isn't a long termed solution to replacing Dak. Nor is it realistic to believe that the Cowboys could have gotten to 12 wins or consistently win games with the way a Cooper Rush led offense was playing. As the Cowboys would need a defense who could play at an 2000 Ravens level for 16-17 games, for them to have a chance to sustain wins throughout the entire course of an NFL season, with a Cooper Rush offense who was struggling to score 20 points in many games.

Again if Cooper Rush was so capable of being a long termed NFL starting QB, then he would be getting opportunities to start somewhere else or some team would be stepping up with an offer to make him their starter, Some will say that it's a "small sample" size. But Cooper Rush would have gotten a job as a starter by now. if NFL teams and GMs believed he had the skill set to be a consistent starting QB, who can go out for the entire course of an season and put his team in the best position to win and compete.

Some of the very same ones who say point out how Dak is never going to be the guy, because he had seven years to win the Super Bowl and couldn't do it. Also seem to be pushing the narrative that Cooper Rush could still be a decent or impactful starting QB in the NFL for the Cowboys or another team, if just given the chance to play for an entire season. He has been in the league since 2017, if teams haven't already seen anything which makes them believe he is a starting caliber QB by now, then the chances of them seeing it anytime is Rush's career is very low.

 

[G2]

IMO, the team needs to play with Dak like it did under Rush. More conservative, more run oriented, less turnovers and 3 and outs.

The defense played great when Rush was in and its not a coincidence. Even if you score less points playing like this you will win more games and that's the purpose.

This isn't a reality. Everyone says they want Prescott to run a conservative offense until he does, then it's not enough.
You will need to rely on your defense to make a few big stops throughout a season and you need a QB to try to catch up.

You don't win more games by scoring less.