The plan for Romos successor

[erod]

teams like NE have a plan that is why they drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the 2nd rd of the 2014 draft. He may not be the next Tom Brady but he is a young kid that has some good talent who is not being forced into action right now and can learn and when he gets his chance he likely will have a quality team in place.

And there's about a 95 percent chance that Garappolo is Brandon Weeden.

Very few quarterbacks pan out. Ponder, Locker, Gabbert, Clausen, Mallett, Sanchez, Freeman, McGee, Pat White, RG3, Geno, Cousins, Cassel, Bradford, Brohm, Henne, Quinn, Russell, Kolb, Beck, Stanton, Leinart, VY, Clemens, Cutler, Whitehurst, Croyle...........

The success rate is incredibly low.

 

[Doomsday101]

And there's about a 95 percent chance that Garappolo is Brandon Weeden.

Very few quarterbacks pan out. Ponder, Locker, Gabbert, Clausen, Mallett, Sanchez, Freeman, McGee, Pat White, RG3, Geno, Cousins, Cassel, Bradford, Brohm, Henne, Quinn, Russell, Kolb, Beck, Stanton, Leinart, VY, Clemens, Cutler, Whitehurst, Croyle...........

The success rate is incredibly low.

95 percent? lol some of the guys you have listed also went to some very poor teams they could not protect they have very little talent to put around their QB. GB went out and got Rodgers had him sit behind Brett and put a quality team in place. They were not grasping at straws they saw a young QB who had talent and did not throw him to the wolves before he was ready and when they felt he was they gave him a great chance by having good players who made his job a lot easier. You list Cassel yet when he played in NE and came in for Brady he and the Pats went 11-5, the team around you has a lot to do with success and failure.

 

[erod]

95 percent? lol some of the guys you have listed also went to some very poor teams they could not protect they have very little talent to put around their QB. GB went out and got Rodgers had him sit behind Brett and put a quality team in place. They were not grasping at straws they saw a young QB who had talent and did not throw him to the wolves before he was ready and when they felt he was they gave him a great chance by having good players who made his job a lot easier. You list Cassel yet when he played in NE and came in for Brady he and the Pats went 11-5, the team around you has a lot to do with success and failure.

No, they were just bad quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks make teams rise from the ashes. Bad ones just continue the malaise.

Otherwise, when quarterbacks get hurt, teams would just march on. They don't. Did you see Weeden with this Ferrari last year?

 

[Doomsday101]

No, they were just bad quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks make teams rise from the ashes. Bad ones just continue the malaise.

Otherwise, when quarterbacks get hurt, teams would just march on. They don't. Did you see Weeden with this Ferrari last year?

Yeah the fact teams like Jacksonville, Oakland, Tampa Bay have nothing to help the QB does not factor into that and as I mentioned Cassle was able to help NE to 11-5 he was not doing it on his own was not asked to carry the team but they still won games.

It is not all the QB they need help and if you put trash around them they will fail.

 

[Hardline]

They wouldnt be bringing them in for visits if they werent interested

They are creating smokescreens.

 

[NickZepp]

Looking at next year its even worse, you have Cook and maybe Hogan Depending on who you ask. The rest are 3rd round or lower... i think they have to do it now or wait 2 years and hope someone is amazing.

It's hard to tell this early how good or bad a QB draft class is. Maybe one of the lower picks is a winner that nobody looks at and Dallas gets lucky and has fall on their lap. If star QBs were easy to get and just as easy as drafting one we wouldn't have over half the league with questionable QBs.

 

[burmafrd]

95 percent? lol some of the guys you have listed also went to some very poor teams they could not protect they have very little talent to put around their QB. GB went out and got Rodgers had him sit behind Brett and put a quality team in place. They were not grasping at straws they saw a young QB who had talent and did not throw him to the wolves before he was ready and when they felt he was they gave him a great chance by having good players who made his job a lot easier. You list Cassel yet when he played in NE and came in for Brady he and the Pats went 11-5, the team around you has a lot to do with success and failure.

a good QB will show it even for bad teams. Archie Manning arguably had the worst team around him of any talented QB I can remember in the last 40 years and his quality was easily recognizeable.

Now there might be some borderline QBs who could have been good if put in the right situation. David Carr might have been one if he had not been traumatized (set a record for sacks and QB hits over a 4 year period). Some of that was probably his fault but how can you tell when its "1, 2 WHAAPPP"

But you can tell a QB who has it after a year or so even in a bad situation. It is incredibly rare for any QB to suddenly improve and show high quality after a year or so of stinking it up.
And the 95% failure rate just makes it that much more clear.

 

[Risen Star]

Garrett likes everyone they ask him about

Right. It's coach speak but some fans cling to it like it's meaningful.

 

[aikemirv]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...s-brett-hundley-worked-out-for-dallas-cowboys

I am a Bryce Petty fan myself but either one of them in the 2nd would be fine with me.

 

[Doomsday101]

a good QB will show it even for bad teams. Archie Manning arguably had the worst team around him of any talented QB I can remember in the last 40 years and his quality was easily recognizeable.

Now there might be some borderline QBs who could have been good if put in the right situation. David Carr might have been one if he had not been traumatized (set a record for sacks and QB hits over a 4 year period). Some of that was probably his fault but how can you tell when its "1, 2 WHAAPPP"

But you can tell a QB who has it after a year or so even in a bad situation. It is incredibly rare for any QB to suddenly improve and show high quality after a year or so of stinking it up.
And the 95% failure rate just makes it that much more clear.

Yet Archie and the Saints lost because he had a poor team around him, I think you take a avg QB and put him on a very good team and he can have success, see Brad Johnson, See Trent Dilfer. Myself I think Wilson is a good QB not elite he is not going to carry his team with his arm but he will make plays and avoids big mistakes for the most part (expect the pass in SB) You take any of those QB and put them on bad teams they are not going to win. I think there are many young QB who get drafted high by very bad teams and are thrown to the wolves and has a negative impact on them. I also think if more teams took the older approach of bringing in a young QB and giving him time that the failure rate would not be as high as it is

 

[lqmac1]

Sad day when Romo hangs it up.

 

[JoeKing]

I'm hoping the Cowboys go the way of Bryce Petty. He seems to be a coachable guy with all the tangible qualities you want in a QB.

 

[DFWJC]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...s-brett-hundley-worked-out-for-dallas-cowboys

I am a Bryce Petty fan myself but either one of them in the 2nd would be fine with me.

Use our SECOND ROUND PICK?

 

[lostar2009]

I think it's obvious. In my opinion, they are following a formula for continued success.

1) Have an elite QB.
2) Toward the end of his career, build an elite OL.
3) Establish a legitimate rushing attack
4) Build a defense
5) When said elite QB retires, have a promising prospect ready to play in a safe, nurturing environment where his progress will be ensured due to a real team being around him

The new QB isn't relied upon to be amazing. They simply have to get better each year. Allow the elite OL to give him time in the pocket, the running game to take the load off his shoulders, and the defense to keep the game manageable.

Frankly, it's brilliant and I'm surprised we've not seen this exact formula followed as commonplace in the NFL.

Because you have to build a team which requires getting some picks right. It sounds easy but there are teams that have been shambles for years.

 

[DFWJC]

It's getting closer and closer to the time.

Jerry has hands down won this game of chicken vs those that have been begging him to use a higher pick to draft a successor these past 4 years. The rookie contract would have been almost gone without much benefit. There is the rare occasion you can groom and trade...that's pretty rare though. New England is really the only team still doing it with mixed results.

Mettenberger in the 5th last year would have been maybe worth a shot. I think McCarron and Murray were still there too for those that liked them. With the Romo injury doubts, we had to have a vet backup. So that means no shot for Vaughn.

 

[punchnjudy]

Unlikely they'll find another QB who can lead a top 5 offense.

Will probably have to be a defense oriented team like the Seahawks and Steelers have been/are.

Now's the time to start laying the foundation for a young defense that can carry the team in a few years. When the opportunity is there, target gritty, smart QB's who can read a defense and throw with decent accuracy. Arm strength is secondary and I don't care how tall they are. Hopefully, one pans out well enough to be competent.

 

[burmafrd]

The Cowboys from beginning until about 1986 had incredible QB play. Eddie Lebaron, Dandy Don, even Morton was pretty good; then Roger and then Danny. Pro Bowl QBs all. It is doubtful any team will ever have that kind of run again- 25 years of excellent QB play. Then we had the 3 years in the wilderness and got Troy. And finally THEN the law of averages caught up to us with the drek we had until Tony took over.

The odds of us coming up with someone right away that will be even close to as good as Tony are VERY long. So it would be smart to build an excellent team that can win with minimal help from the QB since odds are that is exactly what we will get.

 

[aikemirv]

Use our SECOND ROUND PICK?

Tell that to the Packers who drafted Aaron Rodgers to sit on for 3 years.

 

[EPL0c0]

Jameill Showers.

 

[burmafrd]

Tell that to the Packers who drafted Aaron Rodgers to sit on for 3 years.

and that has happened how many times in the history of the NFL? One HOF player suceeding another? I will tell you. ONCE before. Steve Young following Joe Montana.