The plan for Romos successor

[percyhoward]

So was Tom Brady coming out of Michigan. You just never know.

Point was that there aren't a lot of good ones in the league at any one time -- not that the only good ones are in the early rounds of the draft.

 

[jnday]

we might get lucky and draft the next Luck, etc. I mean it IS possible.

But it is not probable. It is possible for me to win the lottery, but the chances are mighty slim.

 

[Alexander]

Draft a qb when Romo is done.

Yes, being desperate for a QB is absolutely the smartest way to handle it. Good thinking!

 

[erod]

If McClay and his troops REALLY like a quarterback, draft him. Otherwise, just keep looking for Dustin Vaughns to pull a Romo.

The trouble teams get into is drafting quarterbacks just because they are desperate to find one.

I never understood the fascinaton in Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, Geno, etc. Did they not watch these guys in college? They should have all been sixth rounders like Brady. Not worthy of first round risk for a hope and a prayer.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yes, being desperate for a QB is absolutely the smartest way to handle it. Good thinking!

Unless you want to draft a guy in the first two rounds while Romo is around you're essentially just throwing away picks.

The success of qbs picked in the 3rd round and later is staggeringly poor.

I personally would rather try and maximize an All Pro caliber qb's chance to win the superbowl while I can.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That insure several years of desparation like the post-Aikman period. I can't wait to go through that again.

See above.

 

[NickZepp]

Unless you want to draft a guy in the first two rounds while Romo is around you're essentially just throwing away picks.

The success of qbs picked in the 3rd round and later is staggeringly poor.

I personally would rather try and maximize an All Pro caliber qb's chance to win the superbowl while I can.

I would guess maybe 1 possibly 2 QBs per draft class of say 10 or so are all-pro type QBs. In a good years it's probably around 4. Finding good QBs is not easy no matter what. That's why we should just worry about riding Romo as long as possible.

 

[Tabascocat]

As long as our O-line is ranked up top with a better defense, I am not as worried about who our next QB will be. He won't be asked to carry the team like Romo was. They might find a Wilson type to drive the bus, so to speak. Maybe even sign a decent FA type like Bradford until that franchise guy comes around.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I would guess maybe 1 possibly 2 QBs per draft class of say 10 or so are all-pro type QBs. In a good years it's probably around 4. Finding good QBs is not easy no matter what. That's why we should just worry about riding Romo as long as possible.

Exactly.

People think throwing 4th and 5th rounders at the qb position annually I'd a good thing. It is not.

 

[Alexander]

Unless you want to draft a guy in the first two rounds while Romo is around you're essentially just throwing away picks.

The success of qbs picked in the 3rd round and later is staggeringly poor.

I personally would rather try and maximize an All Pro caliber qb's chance to win the superbowl while I can.

Maybe you are right. Belichick really ruined his chances to maximize Brady's twilight years by taking Mallett and Garrapolo. Wait.

Philosophically, "throwing away" picks is only a certainty if you are 100% confident your QB will outlast that draftee's first contract. With Romo, that is probably less than 50/50 given his back issues.

While I do not advocate getting a QB in this draft, that is more of a function of the prospects themselves than the ideology.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Maybe you are right. Belichick really ruined his chances to maximize Brady's twilight years by taking Mallett and Garrapolo. Wait.

Philosophically, "throwing away" picks is only a certainty if you are 100% confident your QB will outlast that draftee's first contract. With Romo, that is probably less than 50/50 given his back issues.

While I do not advocate getting a QB in this draft, that is more of a function of the prospects themselves than the ideology.

How many more titles might the Pats have won had they added talent to the roster that was useful?

And the Pats STILL don't know if they have a worthy successor.

Also... cheating aside.... Brady and Belichick is the single best qb and coach combination in the history of the National Football League. Do they really fit as a comparison to Romo and Jason? Can we really afford to squander opportunities to draft guys who will see the field in meaningful roles as they have?

 

[Alexander]

Can we really afford to squander opportunities to draft guys who will see the field in meaningful roles as they have?

You mean like Morris Claiborne and Gavin Escobar? These were wasted premium picks just as much as any bench riding backup QB.

If you want to talk about wasting picks, we can certainly discuss the 2nd round choice we burned on Claiborne to get that super duper Next Deion.

 

[Tabascocat]

You mean like Morris Claiborne and Gavin Escobar? These were wasted premium picks just as much as any bench riding backup QB.

If you want to talk about wasting picks, we can certainly discuss the 2nd round choice we burned on Claiborne to get that super duper Next Deion.

The TE's were wasted but Mo was not. It was a calculated risk and a position of need that didn't work out. I liked, at the time, to move up and grab him. He was supposed to be a "can't miss"

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You mean like Morris Claiborne and Gavin Escobar? These were wasted premium picks just as much as any bench riding backup QB.

If you want to talk about wasting picks, we can certainly discuss the 2nd round choice we burned on Claiborne to get that super duper Next Deion.

If you consider drafting players you expect to see the field and missing the same as drafting a guy who you hope doesn't play for 4 years.... Then you clearly lack the ability to think critically on the subject or are arguing just to argue.

 

[LittleD]

I don't think Jerry or Stephen want to take any QB's in the first 3 rounds. They seem to want to do the
wildcat thing and try and strike oil. You might make 1 good well out of 6 or 7 tries. My take is that
they might look at a QB who falls or take a stab at Chris Bonner in the 7th to compete with Vaughn
whom they seem to like well. That way, they just let them learn and compete without much
monetary investment. If one of them rises to starting material great...otherwise, just pick another
late round prospect next year and keep drilling for that gusher.

 

[DFWJC]

I think we're at the point that QBs should now be thrown in the mix as other positions for us.

If we get to the pick and the best player available on our Cowboy's specific board is a QB....and especially if there's no other players grouped with him right there in a position of greater need....just take the player. BPA
The other option at that point is to trade down.

Usually, there's normally not just one player left in a tier group, so it might not be so straight forward.
But not taking a QB has actually, in hindsight, worked for us. But I think they realize that if the opportunity presents itself, it's getting closer to that time.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think we're at the point that QBs should now be thrown in the mix as other positions for us.

If we get to the pick and the best player available on our Cowboy's specific board is a QB....and especially if there's no other players grouped with him right there in a position of greater need....just take the player. BPA
The other option at that point is to trade down.

Usually, there's normally not just one player left in a tier group, so it might not be so straight forward.
But not taking a QB has actually, in hindsight, worked for us. But I think they realize that if the opportunity presents itself, it's getting closer to that time.

I believe we were very on Nassib a couple years back and rated him as a first rounder, and repeatedly passed on him. I dont see that happening this year

 

[darthseinfeld]

Im kinda starting to brace myself for Hundley at 27.

I wouldn't put money on it happening, but I definitely wouldn't rule it out

 

[DFWJC]

I believe we were very on Nassib a couple years back and rated him as a first rounder, and repeatedly passed on him. I dont see that happening this year

Not sure on Nassib, but I'm with you on the rest.
Thank god we didn't burn a 1st rounder on Nassib.
I'll take Frederick all day

 

[darthseinfeld]

Not sure on Nassib, but I'm with you on the rest.
Thank god we didn't burn a 1st rounder on Nassib.
I'll take Frederick all day

Just looked it up. They had him as a second rounder, and below Escobar. So we passed twice when he was BPA( maybe 3, I don't remember if he went before Webb)