CFZ The Solution Is Simple

[America's Cowboy]

Quote from OP:
When Dak throws 28 or fewer passes in a game he is the best QB in the league.

Under these circumstances the Cowboys are 27-1, a winning percentage of 96.4%. Roethlisberger comes in 2nd at 93.3% and Mahomes 3rd with 91.3%.

Dak completed over 72% of his passes with a 5 to 1 TD/INT ratio for a passer rating of 115.4. In these 28 games he had thrown 47 TD's and 9 INT's.

Cherry picking much? You know what the OP says.

 

[plasticman]

And " ball protection"

One season does not make a career. Dak bas always had an historicaly low INT rate and that is still true, in comparison, when you add last season.

This is the same guy that holds the NFL record for most pass attempts before his first career INT.

The receivers this year will be far superior than 2022.

 

[plasticman]

Cherry picking much? You know what the OP says.

That is not cherry picking, that is identifying a specific trend.

 

[blueblood70]

In other words, the less chances Dak has of screwing up, the chances of winning are increased. Gotcha...

And now you and Jerry want him extended. Dak's agent should show up at the negotiations with a mask on his face. The guy will be 30 next month and whatever skills he had are diminishing. Give the bus keys to Rush and he will put up the same winning percentage at less than 10% his cost; and will probably play better in the playoffs if given the chance.

Go goes for 100% of all the quarterbacks out there the run game and the way the offensive line plays is very important as well as the happens all around the NFL the game plan in the NFL is to never just run 16 times in a playoff game and average 3 YPC or worse and abandon the run game leave Malik on the bench and just give up..the OL and Run game are very important to all teams balance.. you can not be one dimensional again these best DL/front 7s.. If you cant run, find way to the shorter passes, more end arounds, Create runs with the pass and sorry the OL and OC just didn't allow that again against the 9er defense. tired of hearing about this is dak issue, its an issue period.

this will never be referred to as Romo friendly or Dak friendly.... ITS literally quarterback friendly offenses. Want to throw your QB to the wolves they will have short career and you will not have success.

 

[Sheepherder]

Rush isn’t the answer . We need a QB who can put up the ball in the air when needed .

Dak is good enough when not expected to do too much . This presentation illustrates how effective he can be when we aren’t pass happy.

Yea, initially he said he wanted to run more. But all of the moves we have been making along with this new offense would suggest we aren’t ? It’s been somewhat conflicting .

The two important things they could have done to improve their running game would have been work on the oline and draft a quality running back. They didnt do either one.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cherry picking much? You know what the OP says.

I’m telling you what I believe he was saying , which was how we can win with Dak. Not blaming him.

You got hung up on one criticism missing the overall point.

 

[Diehardblues]

The two important things they could have done to improve their running game would have been work on the oline and draft a quality running back. They didnt do either one.

Their banking on their OL staying healthy which we all know isn’t likely .

And they obviously are counting on Pollard fully recovering from injury and carrying the load full time . An unknown until further evidence .

Both have potential for disappointment placing the burden on our QB again.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Oh man....you gotta be smarter when looking at stats.

This thread would lead you to believe, that all you have to do is keep Dak at 27 passes or fewer, and we'll only loose 2 or 3 games over the next decade.

Why is it the Cowboys (and so many other QBs) win-loss percentage is so high when they throw under 28 passes?

QBs throw less passes WHEN their team is ahead. The lead comes first...leading to fewer passes. Throwing fewer passes...does NOT create the lead.

This is like the dopes that spew the idiotic stat that "95 % of car accidents happen when your 5 miles from hime!" ( as if there's some kind of highly dangerous 5 mile radius circle around your house....vs realizing 95% of ur driving time is 5 miles from ur house...hence the most likely place to have an accident.

all teams throw less if they have a large lead. If you have a large lead...you're likely to win the game. Best QB in the the NFL...ha ha ha!

Yeah...if the Cowboys fall behind 10 or 14 points....all they have to do is stop throwing and they'll miraculously come back!

 

[America's Cowboy]

That is not cherry picking, that is identifying a specific trend.

Specific trend my butt. What trend?

 

[America's Cowboy]

I’m telling you what I believe he was saying , which was how we can win with Dak. Not blaming him.

You got hung up on one criticism missing the overall point.

You miss the overall point. It all starts and ends with the Oline.

 

[Whirlwin]

In other words, the less chances Dak has of screwing up, the chances of winning are increased. Gotcha...

And now you and Jerry want him extended. Dak's agent should show up at the negotiations with a mask on his face. The guy will be 30 next month and whatever skills he had are diminishing. Give the bus keys to Rush and he will put up the same winning percentage at less than 10% his cost; and will probably play better in the playoffs if given the chance.

Lmao

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

The only issue I see was the Cowboys were not aggressive enough in acquiring superior talent at the RB position. With 17 games in the regular season it was critical to obtain real talent at the RB position.

I was shocked after the draft at the failure to address this. It will be a glaring need in the next draft.

 

[Captain-Crash]

yeah, I agree with the guy who wrote the thread, I blame everybody on the team. When are we getting an offensive line that can hold the defensive line to 5 minutes so our slow but good processor can find someone open? Yeah and when are we getting a back who can average 10 yards a carry so dak doesn't have to stress over throwing the ball? I kind a blame jerry for drafting dak, jerry should have let the patriots draft him so he could have become the next Brady.

 

[plasticman]

Specific trend my butt. What trend?

When Dak dosen't have to throw more than 28 times in a game the Cowboys win. They are 27-1 and Dak had the best numbers compared to every other QB by far.

The problem had always been that both Garrett and Moore, both ex-quarterbacks, simply refuse to committ to the run, even when they are averaging more than 6 yards a carry.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When Dak throws 28 or fewer passes in a game he is the best QB in the league.

Under these circumstances the Cowboys are 27-1, a winning percentage of 96.4%. Roethlisberger comes in 2nd at 93.3% and Mahomes 3rd with 91.3%.

Dak completed over 72% of his passes with a 5 to 1 TD/INT ratio for a passer rating of 115.4. In these 28 games he had thrown 47 TD's and 9 INT's.

Of course, this implies a productive running game that forces defenses to respect that element of the offense.

It is also means that the defense can take advantage of their offenses long drives to be rested enough to give maximum effort each play The combination of less clock time combined with a tenacious defense will frustrates opponent offenses. Due to less opportunity, this creates pressure for the opponent by increasing the urgency to score, particularly in the 2nd half.

Dak was never a naturally gifted strong arm blue chip passer and it is ridiculous to compare him to those types of QB's. Dak has a different set of skills that emphasizes leadership, consistency and ball protection. The greatest flaw in Kellen Moore's offensive philosophy was trying to force Dak into being something he never was.

Dak was never a 1st round top 5 pick but he was perfect for the type of offense that the Cowboys used in his rookie season.

This philosophy is nothing new. Most recent teams that have won multiple Super Bowls used the same concept. The Ravens, Steelers, and Patriot teams early in Brady's career was based on the same concept, dominant running and opportunistic passing. In Brady's first four seasons as the starter the Patriots won 3 Super Bowls. In half of the regular season games, Brady threw 30 or less passes.

This is the secret to the success of QB's like Russel Wilson, Kirk Cousins, and Andy Dalton. The only QB's that were highly successful throwing the ball more than 30 times a game were guys like Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, and Mahomes. Again, these are the guys with the elite arms.

It is true that there were circumstances in which the Cowboys were forced to throw more often, like being down late in the game by a large margin. However, quite often, the Cowboys passed far more often than necessary. There were only 33 games in which the Cowboys were down by 10 or more points at halftime. However, they passed for more than 28 attempts in 59 games.
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I would say that those circumstances will be rare this upcoming season due to the defense and it's ability to keep the score lower.

The only issue I see was the Cowboys were not aggressive enough in acquiring superior talent at the RB position. With 17 games in the regular season it was critical to obtain real talent at the RB position. The "warm body" approach will fail. I was disappointed when the Cowboys didn't draft another RB in day #1 or day #2. This should have been the #1 priority because you then have a 1-2 punch with legitimate talent. Don't get me wrong, I still would have taken Vaughn in the 6th but the Cowboys should have dedicated more resources to prevent their season from being destroyed by an injury at that position.

In order for the Cowboys to be successful and go to the Super Bowl, they must restrict the number of passes each game. The defense must be consistent and , most importantly, the Cowboys must discover another effective RB within their ranks. One of these young guys must have a dominant preseason.

I think you are mixing causation here. This was well discussed when Parcells came here.

Offenses stop passing and run the ball when they are winning particularly in the second half. Parcells talked about how running attempts correlate to success while running success does not.

The way you get to run the ball is by getting the lead. The best way to get the lead when you do not have it is to pass. Then you can run however you like.

 

[America's Cowboy]

When Dak dosen't have to throw more than 28 times in a game the Cowboys win. They are 27-1 and Dak had the best numbers compared to every other QB by far.

The problem had always been that both Garrett and Moore, both ex-quarterbacks, simply refuse to committ to the run, even when they are averaging more than 6 yards a carry.

I understand the premise of running the ball and how it definitely helps, but you can't do it if you don't have a good and consistent run blocking Oline. Fix the Oline, everything else will work just fine.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Generally speaking when people are promising you a simple solution particularly to a longstanding issue, they are selling snake oil.

This is just thinly veneered Dak sucks logic. Dak sucks so we need to limit his usage to win is the take here really.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

The correlation vs. causality point made above is correct.

I'll add, you can't run the ball just because you want to- and I don't care how good the O-Line is or how good the RB is. Football is a game of "rock, paper, scissors".

Without a credible down-field passing threat, it is difficult to consistently run the ball. A team might make it work for a while, but not for long.

 

[Bobhaze]

When Dak throws 28 or fewer passes in a game he is the best QB in the league.

Under these circumstances the Cowboys are 27-1, a winning percentage of 96.4%. Roethlisberger comes in 2nd at 93.3% and Mahomes 3rd with 91.3%.

Dak completed over 72% of his passes with a 5 to 1 TD/INT ratio for a passer rating of 115.4. In these 28 games he had thrown 47 TD's and 9 INT's.

Of course, this implies a productive running game that forces defenses to respect that element of the offense.

It is also means that the defense can take advantage of their offenses long drives to be rested enough to give maximum effort each play The combination of less clock time combined with a tenacious defense will frustrates opponent offenses. Due to less opportunity, this creates pressure for the opponent by increasing the urgency to score, particularly in the 2nd half.

Dak was never a naturally gifted strong arm blue chip passer and it is ridiculous to compare him to those types of QB's. Dak has a different set of skills that emphasizes leadership, consistency and ball protection. The greatest flaw in Kellen Moore's offensive philosophy was trying to force Dak into being something he never was.

Dak was never a 1st round top 5 pick but he was perfect for the type of offense that the Cowboys used in his rookie season.

This philosophy is nothing new. Most recent teams that have won multiple Super Bowls used the same concept. The Ravens, Steelers, and Patriot teams early in Brady's career was based on the same concept, dominant running and opportunistic passing. In Brady's first four seasons as the starter the Patriots won 3 Super Bowls. In half of the regular season games, Brady threw 30 or less passes.

This is the secret to the success of QB's like Russel Wilson, Kirk Cousins, and Andy Dalton. The only QB's that were highly successful throwing the ball more than 30 times a game were guys like Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, and Mahomes. Again, these are the guys with the elite arms.

It is true that there were circumstances in which the Cowboys were forced to throw more often, like being down late in the game by a large margin. However, quite often, the Cowboys passed far more often than necessary. There were only 33 games in which the Cowboys were down by 10 or more points at halftime. However, they passed for more than 28 attempts in 59 games.
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I would say that those circumstances will be rare this upcoming season due to the defense and it's ability to keep the score lower.

The only issue I see was the Cowboys were not aggressive enough in acquiring superior talent at the RB position. With 17 games in the regular season it was critical to obtain real talent at the RB position. The "warm body" approach will fail. I was disappointed when the Cowboys didn't draft another RB in day #1 or day #2. This should have been the #1 priority because you then have a 1-2 punch with legitimate talent. Don't get me wrong, I still would have taken Vaughn in the 6th but the Cowboys should have dedicated more resources to prevent their season from being destroyed by an injury at that position.

In order for the Cowboys to be successful and go to the Super Bowl, they must restrict the number of passes each game. The defense must be consistent and , most importantly, the Cowboys must discover another effective RB within their ranks. One of these young guys must have a dominant preseason.

Great post.

 

[T-RO]

Only four 2022 NFL teams passed 28 times or less per game. What a winning formula!

Bears, 22.2 passes...........3-14
Falcons, 24.4 passes.......7-10
Titans, 26.9 passes..........7-10
Panthers, 26.9 passes.....7-10