CFZ The two bad habits that are killing our chances to get better

eromeopolk

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Let‘s face it- the Cowboys front office has two very bad habits:
  • BAD HABIT #1. Over-valuing our own players.
    • Think about it. We have a whopping two wild card playoff wins with the “cornerstone” talent we’ve built with the best of our last 7 drafts. For years, our front office has looked at guys like Zeke, Dak, Cedee Lamb, Trevon Diggs, and several other players and thought, “We have to keep these guys because look at what we’ve accomplished with them.“
    • We haven’t accomplished that much with them.
    • I‘m not saying all of those guys should be traded or cut. But I am saying THEY AREN‘T ENOUGH.
  • BAD HABIT #2. Not being dissatisfied enough with lack of playoff results. The Jones boys apparently are satisfied enough with what they've been getting because if they weren’t satisfied, they would be more aggressive to make changes.
    • If you really want to win a championship, you look at your team with a critical eye, not just assume all the guys you think are good just need another year to “get lucky”.
    • SJ has been saying lately ad nauseum that we are “just a click away”, just need “little more juice”. He and Jerry both act like they haven’t sniffed a championship in 27 years because of “bad luck”.
In my eyes there is only ONE player on this team who is untouchable- Micah Parsons. Literally everyone else is available if by moving them we could get better.

Over-valuing talent means you don’t have the critical eye to see beyond what you like about any player’s past performance. And if you truly want to win a championship, you have to stop thinking, “We’re really close, we just need to get lucky”.
Add hanging on to veteran players on the other side of their prime are coming to the other side of their prime.
 

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Add hanging on to veteran players on the other side of their prime are coming to the other side of their prime.
Not recognizing when it's time to restructure a bit.

Remember when the Colts offered up a 2nd for Mike Jenkins? And that was after we paid Carr big money and traded up for Mo. Jerry has absolutely no eye on the future. He's just too football dumb.
 

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I just have to note that the Cowboys had effectively wasted 10 years with Garrett. The guy is now out of the league.

I'll tack on people like Switzer, Dave Campo and some really bad coordinators.

This has to be on the list somewhere. Dallas simply doesn't like good coaching if it doesn't kowtow to Jerry. Recently its been better but a huge percentage of the past 25 years of futility were with questionable coaching.
A lot of us warned that Garrett wasn't qualified to be hired in the first place. We were called idiots. It was clear as day that Garrett didn't even deserve a job coaching a good JC program, and it was easy to predict that teams would not be lined up to hire him. He got one part time job and was quickly fired never to even be considered for a major coaching job anywhere. Not even colleges want Garrett as coach.

And yet Jones wasted a decade on an unqualified and continually unproductive coach I think just to spite the fans who told Jerry it was idiotic to even hire this guy for any coaching gig without any sort of meaningful experience as a football coach. Tells you how much Jerry "really" wants to win.
 

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Bad habit #3 falls on the fans.
Most of you will be purchasing the latest Cowboy merch and continue to buy tickets to the games.
If You were all like me Corporate name stadium would be empty and merch in the pro shop would be gathering dust.
There's a longer game at play here that might have a chance because of NFL precedence.

Lets say interest in Dallas does a nosedive after year 30 of GM Jerry holding the team hostage to his ego. Sales drop, attendance drops, revenue drops. Jerry the goes full scorched earth and petitions the NFL to allow him to move his franchise to a new city and state. We the fans help him pack as he isn't allowed to take anything "Cowboys" related with him. That all stays with Dallas as we wait a few years until the league restores our franchise like they did with the Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Ravens situation. Jerry then has to name his franchise something other than "Cowboys" and nobody gives a damn about his new team.
 

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A lot of us warned that Garrett wasn't qualified to be hired in the first place. We were called idiots. It was clear as day that Garrett didn't even deserve a job coaching a good JC program, and it was easy to predict that teams would not be lined up to hire him. He got one part time job and was quickly fired never to even be considered for a major coaching job anywhere. Not even colleges want Garrett as coach.

And yet Jones wasted a decade on an unqualified and continually unproductive coach I think just to spite the fans who told Jerry it was idiotic to even hire this guy for any coaching gig without any sort of meaningful experience as a football coach. Tells you how much Jerry "really" wants to win.
The OP could be boiled down to two things:
1. Jerry has the talent evaluation skill of a monkey throwing darts at a dartboard. Sometimes he hits, sometimes he doesn't but he has no ability to differentiate between a hit and a miss and the results are almost random. The things like getting Will McClay or Jimmy Johnson are more happy accidents than a sign of skill.
2. Jerry has a massive ego and regularly doubles down on his decisions, regardless of them being correct or not (see number 1)

This pattern plays itself out in virtually every facet of the organization from coaching to drafting to contracts. We are lucky, as fans, that Jerry is too lazy to put work into later round drafting and leaves that up to McClay.
 

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Bump!
 

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The OP could be boiled down to two things:
1. Jerry has the talent evaluation skill of a monkey throwing darts at a dartboard. Sometimes he hits, sometimes he doesn't but he has no ability to differentiate between a hit and a miss and the results are almost random. The things like getting Will McClay or Jimmy Johnson are more happy accidents than a sign of skill.
2. Jerry has a massive ego and regularly doubles down on his decisions, regardless of them being correct or not (see number 1)

This pattern plays itself out in virtually every facet of the organization from coaching to drafting to contracts. We are lucky, as fans, that Jerry is too lazy to put work into later round drafting and leaves that up to McClay.
I mean,this is just so accurate.
 

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digs is top guy in his and his agents mind one of the best,,. not all teams have top guy at each position so not sure what you mean by 400mil..
I didnt mean anything by it lol.
Just pointing out they cant have a top guy at each position.
So they have to pick which ones they pay the top salary to, and still have enough to pay everyone with the 238 mil a year cap.
It isnt easy, that is why people complain about daks salary, and even worse elliot.
 

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The OP could be boiled down to two things:
1. Jerry has the talent evaluation skill of a monkey throwing darts at a dartboard. Sometimes he hits, sometimes he doesn't but he has no ability to differentiate between a hit and a miss and the results are almost random. The things like getting Will McClay or Jimmy Johnson are more happy accidents than a sign of skill.
2. Jerry has a massive ego and regularly doubles down on his decisions, regardless of them being correct or not (see number 1)

This pattern plays itself out in virtually every facet of the organization from coaching to drafting to contracts. We are lucky, as fans, that Jerry is too lazy to put work into later round drafting and leaves that up to McClay.
yes I agree.
 

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The OP could be boiled down to two things:
1. Jerry has the talent evaluation skill of a monkey throwing darts at a dartboard. Sometimes he hits, sometimes he doesn't but he has no ability to differentiate between a hit and a miss and the results are almost random. The things like getting Will McClay or Jimmy Johnson are more happy accidents than a sign of skill.
2. Jerry has a massive ego and regularly doubles down on his decisions, regardless of them being correct or not (see number 1)

This pattern plays itself out in virtually every facet of the organization from coaching to drafting to contracts. We are lucky, as fans, that Jerry is too lazy to put work into later round drafting and leaves that up to McClay.
Well said.
 

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Throwing tons of money at injured or injury prone players because “we like our guys” has to be #3.
See: Gallup, Dak, Jaylon, Collins, Crawford contracts, & Pollard is probably next.
 

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Agree, they hang onto marginal players way too long. Bellicheck was a master of knowing when to move on from players. Or so it seems, having Brady covered many of those moves, making them look better than what they may have been. Or at least less impactful.

But they do over value, hence the large contracts, that they keep kicking down the road, because they are afraid to make the move to get out if it.
It is like chasing a stock or hanging onto it, but it will not rebound to the point to make good on it.
They have gotten rid of most of them since MM arrived. Guys like Collins, jaylon, cooper, Gregory.

Zeke is the big one still left and Tyron.
 

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They have gotten rid of most of them since MM arrived. Guys like Collins, jaylon, cooper, Gregory.

Zeke is the big one still left and Tyron.
Maybe DLaw after that also
Need to find replacements for all 3 or extreme pay cuts.

All 3 can be serviceable but not at their pay.
 

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Maybe DLaw after that also
Need to find replacements for all 3 or extreme pay cuts.

All 3 can be serviceable but not at their pay.
First round guard with Tyler at LT.

Dlaw I agree but his salary actually gets reasonable soon. Can Williams develop? Our 2nd rounder from last year is big.
 

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I always thought one flaw of theirs was not developing the draft picks, when was the last time they developed a mid round OL?

Also, and this isn’t all the players fault it’s also the Cowboys persona, but believing just because they are on the Cowboys they are the cream of the crop, the NY Yankees or something. It would be better if they conducted themselves like they haven’t won anything in 23 years.
 

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First round guard with Tyler at LT.

Dlaw I agree but his salary actually gets reasonable soon. Can Williams develop? Our 2nd rounder from last year is big.
Yeah I think Williams showed some flashes. Will be interesting to see his progress this season.
 

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If we still have dak then that is our biggest problem and bad habit. Actually is the definition of insanity to expect different results doing the same thing
 
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