The Unfathomable Kellen Moore Play. Did this seal his doom with Jerald?

[SteveTheCowboy]

You need to be committed.

Im positive im not the only one.

Maybe already am.

Certainly people that refuse to accept a differing opinion should be.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well ok, maybe not a Hail Mary, but a deep pass to someone who can turn on the jets in space (ahem, Pollard, Lamb, TY) and take it to the house?

Totally agreed on the fact that the whole rest of the game was riddled with problems, but we are just focusing on that last play, and it still seems like a weird call. Why not try something that at least has a chance?

Yes....theres a history of a play that has actually succeeded on occaission.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Yes....theres a history of a play that has actually succeeded on occaission.

From inside a teams own 25 yard line? I'm pretty skeptical there is a history of success from that distance with any play. If we are in the 40-60 yards out range I agree with you completely. 75+ yards out is a different animal that requires some something special.

 

[tyke1doe]

If Zeke executes his block it's a tie game.

 

[irishline]

Welp. I might have thought a seasoned coaching staff would have maybe tried to squeeze in a quick one at the sidelines for the receiver to run out of bounds, get the 1st down, and stop the clock for a Hail Mary?

They did try that the play before this one. With 10 seconds left, a 15 yard pass. Unfortunately Shultz didn't remember he needed two feet in bounds.

Outcome of the game wouldn't be different had it been called a catch anyway.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

From inside a teams own 25 yard line? I'm pretty skeptical there is a history of success from that distance with any play. If we are in the 40-60 yards out range I agree with you completely. 75+ yards out is a different animal that requires some something special.

Fair enough.
I would have opted for a long pass a and laterals.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Moore is just a scapegoat. You can't blame dak because of his fragile ego, so he had to go. Mike's offensive scheme will be the next to get the blame. "you can't expect the sloth to figure out the offense in one year, You got to give him 8 more years. He's a slow learner" sheesh new fans.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Why were we even in this position to begin with, 4 FG’s.

 

[irishline]

Why were we even in this position to begin with, 4 FG’s.

We only kicked two field goals. Feels (and looks) like four because of a missed extra point on our only touchdown.

That said, A field goal from the 7 yard line after being given the ball at their 21 didn't help. Neither did an interception in the red zone (SF 18).

 

[gimmesix]

Well ok, maybe not a Hail Mary, but a deep pass to someone who can turn on the jets in space (ahem, Pollard, Lamb, TY) and take it to the house?

Totally agreed on the fact that the whole rest of the game was riddled with problems, but we are just focusing on that last play, and it still seems like a weird call. Why not try something that at least has a chance?

It isn't any more likely that a deep pass would work there because the defense is playing back to prevent that. It doesn't necessarily hurt to throw one and hope for pass interference, but the probability of completing it is very low. That's why teams have resorted to the short catch with a bunch of laterals, because defenses are playing back to prevent the deep ball and the offense is hoping that maybe someone will break loose on one of the laterals. The probability of that is very low, too.

I agree that it was a weird call, but the lack of success on it really doesn't mean much because there's no play you can run there that has a much better chance of success. I mean, you might as well run a fumblerooski with a bunch of laterals because you have the same low probability of success.

Maybe a more standard play would have kept away this particular criticism, but it wouldn't have made a difference. This is not the play that should define Kellen Moore as a play-caller. It was a desperation, longer-than-long shot at the end of a loss.

 

[Jarntt]

Im sure a lot of teams will be using that play moving forward.

I wouldn't be surprised. The design is to get it out quick and once the first pass is made and the laterals start, OL are pretty much useless

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

So who else played the line with him?

Yep he got blasted. Probably why hes not center.

So, 49ers had two DEs and two DTs lined up over Zeke on that play?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So, 49ers had two DEs and two DTs lined up over Zeke on that play?

I'm not even sure they HAD a D line. I don't think that guy was on the line. He had a 5 yard head of steam goin!

Certainly if you are hiking the ball....you are on the "offensive line"....surely.

I mean if you hate Zeke...I bet that was fun to watch, eh?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I wouldn't be surprised. The design is to get it out quick and once the first pass is made and the laterals start, OL are pretty much useless

They still had what....3 guys chasing Dak.


I guess the biggest thing is why make zeke do it? WOuld Barry or Emmitt do it? I bet they wouldn't even ask.

Just have your center hike it and protect.

Zeke has always done everything they asked of him. Including playing injured and regulate his own substitutions. People made fun of THAT too.

 

[Bing]

Hey look at the bright side.....Dak didnt throw an interception

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm not even sure they HAD a D line. I don't think that guy was on the line. He had a 5 yard head of steam goin!

Certainly if you are hiking the ball....you are on the "offensive line"....surely.

I mean if you hate Zeke...I bet that was fun to watch, eh?

Zeke was by himself. The play was no different than him picking up a blitzing linebacker in pass pro. In fact, it should have been even easier because he didn’t have to try and figure out who he was supposed to pick up.

So it clear you’re really just talking out your arse then in a lame effort to try and defend Zeke’s honor.

Zeke wilted. He’s done.

 

[cowboyed]

We all know Kellen “The Hammer” Moore had zero qualifications when the fuhrer hired him to be Dak’s QB coach and Moore had zero qualifications for being promoted as O-Coordinator. Many sports writers have described our roster since 2016 as a Super Bowl roster but the fuhrer handed the reigns over to a complete unknown, a candidate with no championship skins on the wall, and yet again like carrot top was allowed to learn on the job. I can’t believe any nfl team hired this dufus. The good news is he’s gone. That Zeke play was the stupidest play design in nfl history.

Yes, Kellen Moore was there when McCarthy got on board but it was his prerogative to retain Moore or bring in another offensive coordinator. McCarthy met with Moore, further interviewed Moore and also stated it wasn't warranted to make an offensive coordinator and or scheme change. His initial impressions of Moore were favorable and he was apparently intrigued with Moore even before he accepted the Cowboys head coaching job. McCarthy made wholesale changes on the coaching staff bringing in his cronies including Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator who absolutely sucked for us. To be clear I am not a fan particularly of our father and son executive and general management duet. Jerry is turning into petrified wood and Stephen has been infected with lifelong brain eating bacteria.

 

[SultanOfSix]

What really should be asked is why is Dak not throwing it to 16 based on coverage alone?

 

[Hadenough]

This was a classic submission to the 49er defense. Anyone ever think Moore was handcuffed with Dak. That's why he was forced to call all those curl routes.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Fat Mike will be next in line for the blame. shrugs, it is what it is.