The Unfathomable Kellen Moore Play. Did this seal his doom with Jerald?

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Zeke was by himself. The play was no different than him picking up a blitzing linebacker in pass pro. In fact, it should have been even easier because he didn’t have to try and figure out who he was supposed to pick up.

So it clear you’re really just talking out your arse then in a lame effort to try and defend Zeke’s honor.

Zeke wilted. He’s done.
HE may be...we will see. A friendly wager? Nothing silly like a board exile. Like...10 bucks for a beer? If Zeke PLAYS even one down in 2023.

But anyway....bending down to hike the ball puts you in a very vulnerable spot. Centers train and work all their lives on it. Picking up a blitzer has you in position to steal yourself before the impact.

Okay...so we disagree on it...bit deal. No need for insults?

(hey look....I'm TRYING to change here. I'm getting weary of the constant hostilities. I guess stand by and see, right?)
 

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No i dont think the play we ran with 6 seconds left and 75 yards to get a TD is what did it.....probably had more to do with the rest of the game plan that was not good.
 

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You hike it, drop back to the end zone and chuck it....

Always worked in tecmo bowl
Probably thought they'd keep the QB from getting killed by confusing the 49ers' pass rush while trying to essentially set up blockers. Was much uglier than I think Kellen could imagine.
 

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Probably thought they'd keep the QB from getting killed by confusing the 49ers' pass rush while trying to essentially set up blockers. Was much uglier than I think Kellen could imagine.
It remains an unfathomable play.
Did Kellen panic? No, I think he just cashed out mentally, knew the game was over and just wanted laterals and the game to end.
 

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Kind of looks like Turpin was supposed to catch the ball and run laterally to sneak in behind the stacked group up top. On the way he has the option to pitch to Malik Davis who looks to be headed towards the stacked group at the bottom. If either player has the ball and makes it to their intended spot, there's a convoy to head up the sideline.
 

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Yes, Kellen Moore was there when McCarthy got on board but it was his prerogative to retain Moore or bring in another offensive coordinator. McCarthy met with Moore, further interviewed Moore and also stated it wasn't warranted to make an offensive coordinator and or scheme change. His initial impressions of Moore were favorable and he was apparently intrigued with Moore even before he accepted the Cowboys head coaching job. McCarthy made wholesale changes on the coaching staff bringing in his cronies including Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator who absolutely sucked for us. To be clear I am not a fan particularly of our father and son executive and general management duet. Jerry is turning into petrified wood and Stephen has been infected with lifelong brain eating bacteria.
Until the fuhrer dies, he is still along w his idiot son the last say in all football matters. Only Jimmy had full authority over football matters but some people pretend any of our head coaches have actual authority.

Plus in true Jerry fashion, important assistant coaches were already hired before he selected the next hc. McCarthy had no say just like Wade Phillips had no say since Garrett was hired before the next hc was.

The song remains the same and so do the playoff results. Lather, rinse, repeat.
 

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It hurts me. It burns in me heart.

Don't make this about Dak.

Another Kellen Moore legacy for us.

What had inflamed me with regret all these years was Jackie Smith dropping tha ball in 1979. But at least Dan Reeves had a plan. A good one! Alas, it failed.

But this play should live in infamy when Fat Mac and Kellen Moore mentally abandoned their team in panic.

Indeed, wha was Dallas doing?

Boy Genius gonna Boy Genius

I wouldn't be too hard on him about this, though. There aren't good plays for that situation.
 

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What should have sealed it was that pass play before halftime. I keep telling people that was the biggest mistake of the game. What was it second and 2.... and dak ultimately makes a poor decision leading to a pick.

If we just run the dam ball their time ticks away, even if we didn't score. The 49ers have no opportunity to come back and score. It was a 6 point swing. It was dumb and poor clock management.
 

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We all know Kellen “The Hammer” Moore had zero qualifications when the fuhrer hired him to be Dak’s QB coach and Moore had zero qualifications for being promoted as O-Coordinator. Many sports writers have described our roster since 2016 as a Super Bowl roster but the fuhrer handed the reigns over to a complete unknown, a candidate with no championship skins on the wall, and yet again like carrot top was allowed to learn on the job. I can’t believe any nfl team hired this dufus. The good news is he’s gone. That Zeke play was the stupidest play design in nfl history.
Tha is harsh. no one deserves comparisons to a furhrer.
 

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. they put themselves in a tuff spot, offense sputtered all afternoon. KM might possibly be the reason so.

Since he was play calling. Most blame should be on him. Waste of year for Dallas.
 

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What should have sealed it was that pass play before halftime. I keep telling people that was the biggest mistake of the game. What was it second and 2.... and dak ultimately makes a poor decision leading to a pick.

If we just run the dam ball their time ticks away, even if we didn't score. The 49ers have no opportunity to come back and score. It was a 6 point swing. It was dumb and poor clock management.
Clock management and situational awareness were atrocious last year for Dallas.
 

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Until the fuhrer dies, he is still along w his idiot son the last say in all football matters. Only Jimmy had full authority over football matters but some people pretend any of our head coaches have actual authority.

Plus in true Jerry fashion, important assistant coaches were already hired before he selected the next hc. McCarthy had no say just like Wade Phillips had no say since Garrett was hired before the next hc was.

The song remains the same and so do the playoff results. Lather, rinse, repeat.
So your mind is made up and let's not confuse you with the facts. So McCarthy lied to save face about deciding to keep Moore? I guess it's not McCarthy's directive to more directly run the offense and call plays? There is a consensus between a team owner, director of player personnel, general manager and head coach on acquiring staff and players. All of them are stars in the same movie.

What has held this team back particularly in achieving more success in the post season has been Jerry being both the owner and GM and Stephen being both the CFO and VP of Player Personnel.

At times they have made some decent short term decisions sustaining the competitiveness of the team. However, overall they fell short more often than not thanks to other major business distractions, a lack of objectivity, accountability and adaptability to the ongoing changes of the game on and off the field.
 

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It hurts me. It burns in me heart.

Don't make this about Dak.

Another Kellen Moore legacy for us.

What had inflamed me with regret all these years was Jackie Smith dropping tha ball in 1979. But at least Dan Reeves had a plan. A good one! Alas, it failed.

But this play should live in infamy when Fat Mac and Kellen Moore mentally abandoned their team in panic.

Indeed, wha was Dallas doing?

Nope, it was the whole of the second half, where he was punched in the mouth with Pollards injury and Moore could change it up and continued to throw Zeke up the middle (I dont even think he gave Malik a snap), yea he wasnt helped by Dak and the receivers, but not having a Plan B and unable to adapt in-game was the cross he was eventually hung upon.
 

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Dak is the epitome of deer in the headlights. Can't multitask or think under pressure which means he's got no contingencies in mind before the snap.
 

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So your mind is made up and let's not confuse you with the facts. So McCarthy lied to save face about deciding to keep Moore? I guess it's not McCarthy's directive to more directly run the offense and call plays? There is a consensus between a team owner, director of player personnel, general manager and head coach on acquiring staff and players. All of them are stars in the same movie.

What has held this team back particularly in achieving more success in the post season has been Jerry being both the owner and GM and Stephen being both the CFO and VP of Player Personnel.

At times they have made some decent short term decisions sustaining the competitiveness of the team. However, overall they fell short more often than not thanks to other major business distractions, a lack of objectivity, accountability and adaptability to the ongoing changes of the game on and off the field.
Facts as reported by who? Ever since Jimmy was fired for winning two consecutive championships there have hc trying to sell the fan base that they have authority under the Jones cartel model. It’s fools gold. The fuhrer may on occasion allow his hc a small measure of authority but they have very limited power.

If the Dallas hc had any real power, they’d be allowed to hire their own staff. That doesn’t happen here in case you’ve watched the last three decades of JonesBoys football.

Perhaps the fuhrer granted Big Mac a small bit of authority and then I won’t disagree w you, but it’s fools gold to pretend Dallas has a top down pyramid power scheme. It’s actually a spoke and wheel power structure where all power (i.e., fuhrer and son) is in the hub of the wheel and all around the perimeter are the players, coaches, staff that all report to the Jones boys. This has not changed since Jimmy left.

I’m not trying to be argumentative, you wanted facts so here they are. The spoke and wheel hierarchy has produced zero results in the playoffs and I don’t expect that to change either.

Why can’t the NFL take our idiot owner away so we can celebrate and have real hope again? Hope springs eternal.
 

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You hike it, drop back to the end zone and chuck it....

Always worked in tecmo bowl
It's actually worked in real life too. Maybe not endzone to enzone.....but....can't we just try run of the mill hail Mary and laterals like a normal team?
 
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