The Walking Dead...

[JohnnyHopkins]

Since you brought other zombie movies into the talk.

Return of the living Dead. First it was the zombie that the military lost but when some of the zombie(s) were placed into the incinerator at the funeral home...the smoke fell into the grave yard and bang the dead come back to life.

Now we seen the two dead cops that were not bitten around around the same time frame we seen a few zombies that were burned. Don't know if there is a connection there or not. Would not think so as I remember they burned some at the farm and nothing has happened as yet.

Who knows...just brain storming here since I have not read the comics and I hope that it does not move to airborne transfer because IMO that would kind of ruin it. There is enough strife and all the humans are barely hanging in there to the point of mostly it being a waiting game until they are overcome by zombies...I would hate the idea that it went completely airborne as well and even those that stayed away from them got it as well.

Let me start by saying that this is not a spoiler at all. As I stated above, a lot of the TV show is way off script from the comic, including last nights episode.

If the issue was simply that everyone was infected, then how were there so many dead people still seat-belted in their cars along the highway in the first episode of season two. Maybe it is something they simply overlooked when they made the episode, but those people should have become Walkers by that time.

It seems that a bite of an infected walker kills a person quick enough, but no one in Ricks group has simply dropped dead yet and turned. They could indeed be carriers, but the show has provided evidence that would suggest that at a minimum the person has to actually die for it to turn them. You would think that the same would be said for the guards.

A possible theory about those guards then would be Cannibalism. It would explain a lot about that whole scene and why those two guards died without a scratch. The living arrangements in the bus indicated that quite a few people had been there a while. There were emptied cans all over the yard to symbolize they had run out of food. There were walkers locked up inside, almost caged up, but there was no reason to have them in the yard when they had a fence to keep them out.

Maybe they nabbed one or more survivors that had been infected, ingested one and became walkers themselves.

We have not seen it yet, but this is post-apocalyptic America. I'm sure there are some out there.

 

[punchnjudy]

One theory that's going around the web is that everyone is infected.

The virus only takes over the host after death, but doesn't cause death.

Bites cause death for a separate unrelated reason (such as a fever).

Life isn't really impacted by the virus in that scenario, but folks would need to be shot in the head before burial. (Just think what hospice jobs would pay in a world like that.)

I actually think this theory is too elaborate to be truth behind the whisper. If it is true, the guards may have commited suicide (poison?) and then turned.

Also, it's been pointed out that in the last episode Shane cut himself a second time on the bus after using the same knife on a zombie.

I follow the show more for its character development than its storyline.

 

[Future]

One theory that's going around the web is that everyone is infected.

The virus only takes over the host after death, but doesn't cause death.

Bites cause death for a separate unrelated reason (such as a fever).

Life isn't really impacted by the virus in that scenario, but folks would need to be shot in the head before burial. (Just think what hospice jobs would pay in a world like that.)

I actually think this theory is too elaborate to be truth behind the whisper. If it is true, the guards may have commited suicide (poison?) and then turned.

Also, it's been pointed out that in the last episode Shane cut himself a second time on the bus after using the same knife on a zombie.

I follow the show more for its character development than its storyline.

That actually makes a lot of sense. If Rick knows that, it could explain why he wants to try to survive in just one place....get the most out of life that he can because he knows ultimately there is no happy ending.

 

[trickblue]

A couple of things I noticed last night...

Maggie's first lines in the episode (when she was talking to Lori) were done in her native Australian accent...

Shane defers to Rick only because he wants to. Side by side Shane is twice as big and would destroy Rick in a fight...

Lori is the most annoying character on the show although she is needed...

Shane is no less moral than Rick, he is more realistic to the situation at this point... he does what has to be done...

After cutting themselves with the knife, Rick and Shane would have been infected with Zombie blood...

The make-up artists do a great job with the Zombies, the blood on Shane and Rick looked totally fake...

We need more Daryl, less Lori...

Either develop T-Dog or get rid of him... he serves no purpose...

 

[Danny White]

One theory that's going around the web is that everyone is infected.

The virus only takes over the host after death, but doesn't cause death.

Bites cause death for a separate unrelated reason (such as a fever).

Life isn't really impacted by the virus in that scenario, but folks would need to be shot in the head before burial. (Just think what hospice jobs would pay in a world like that.)

I actually think this theory is too elaborate to be truth behind the whisper. If it is true, the guards may have commited suicide (poison?) and then turned.

Also, it's been pointed out that in the last episode Shane cut himself a second time on the bus after using the same knife on a zombie.

I follow the show more for its character development than its storyline.

That's how it is in the book. But as JoeRod correctly points out, it doesn't appear that's how they're portraying it on TV. That's where I was thinking they were going with it, but maybe not.

 

[trickblue]

We sound like a bunch of old women arguing over direction of a soap... :laugh2:

 

[trickblue]

Yeah...I said in another thread that she is getting on my nerves. She has become the deb character of the walking dead...Deb character from Dexter.

She might be important to the series but she is just annoying to no end.

On a side note...again we see basically nothing again from the T-Dog role...kind of a waste of a character if they are not going to use him.

Jennifer Carpenter is a FANTASTIC actress... she was great as Emily Rose... really dissapointed in her over the top portrayal here... VERY annoying... she throws down the F-Bomb more frequently than any character on TV for no apparent reason... I'm no prude, but it is annoying...

That being said, she is easily the most annoying character in history as Dexter's sister...

I really like the series but it is heading nowhere fast... it has really suffered since the John Lithgow character...

Last year was AWFUL... Edward James Olmos was great but who is really scared of Tom Hanks' son... My 12 year old daughter could kick his skinny arse...

 

[trickblue]

Apparently Rutina Wesley (Trueblood) is going to show up...

She seems like a nice person, but she is HORRIBLE with her accent...

Give us more Zombies and less drama...

Oh... and do something with T-Dog or kill him... it's getting annoying...

 

[MichaelWinicki]

One theory that's going around the web is that everyone is infected.

The virus only takes over the host after death, but doesn't cause death.

Bites cause death for a separate unrelated reason (such as a fever).

Life isn't really impacted by the virus in that scenario, but folks would need to be shot in the head before burial. (Just think what hospice jobs would pay in a world like that.)

I actually think this theory is too elaborate to be truth behind the whisper. If it is true, the guards may have commited suicide (poison?) and then turned.

Also, it's been pointed out that in the last episode Shane cut himself a second time on the bus after using the same knife on a zombie.

I follow the show more for its character development than its storyline.

That's an interesting take.

In Romero's "Night", Johnny, the first person killed by the undead, doesn't appear to have been bitten. He died when his head hit the tombstone.

And he came back.

So certainly a "Universal Virus" would make sense... Probably at some point find out it was released by the military, but that's neither here nor there.

 

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[TheCount]

Shane defers to Rick only because he wants to. Side by side Shane is twice as big and would destroy Rick in a fight...

What's the saying about the size of dogs and fights? :laugh2:

I think Shane defers because he still feels some guilt about what he did with Rick's wife, but I also think Rick rules the group with sheer will power. We've already seen he'll kill to protect the flock, so I don't think you can doubt the ferocity of either man.

You're right about the accents thing though, man the first season was a lot like that. Shane's southern accent was TERRIBLE the first season.

Oh... and do something with T-Dog or kill him... it's getting annoying...

I think they made a horrible mistake here. They basically made him the stereotypical "black guy" and now he doesn't fit in the story at all. Now they basically ignore him and don't try to develop his story at all. They wanted a black guy in the show to try and explore the "racist south" angle and now that they've done that, they have no clue what to do with him. They didn't bother to try and give him a unique skill he brings to the group (either in terms of social or physical skill), and trying to magically bring one out of him now would seem forced.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

What's the saying about the size of dogs and fights? :laugh2:

I think Shane defers because he still feels some guilt about what he did with Rick's wife, but I also think Rick rules the group with sheer will power. We've already seen he'll kill to protect the flock, so I don't think you can doubt the ferocity of either man.

You're right about the accents thing though, man the first season was a lot like that. Shane's southern accent was TERRIBLE the first season.




I think they made a horrible mistake here. They basically made him the stereotypical "black guy" and now he doesn't fit in the story at all. Now they basically ignore him and don't try to develop his story at all. They wanted a black guy in the show to try and explore the "racist south" angle and now that they've done that, they have no clue what to do with him. They didn't bother to try and give him a unique skill he brings to the group (either in terms of social or physical skill), and trying to magically bring one out of him now would seem forced.

I agree that they have done little with T-Dog this season, but I think they will explore further character development with him and Daryl in season 3. They got a little stuck in bringing along Rick vs. Shane and developing Herschel and Maggie's characters.

Either that or he will get knocked off in the last three episodes. :laugh2:

 

[Phoenix]

So I went ahead and ordered that Walking Dead compendium from Amazon...have read it up to the point where they discover the prison.

Differences I've noticed, probably most that have been mentioned somewhere in this thread:

* Shane never made it out of the original campsite outside Atlanta. Rick's son Carl shot and killed him when Shane was going crazy.

* They picked up former NFL player "Tyreese" and his daughter (and her bf) along the way. Shane in the TV show is loosely playing the part of Tyreese after the campsite.

* Dale and Andrea are an item? Yikes!

* Sophia did not die...she is still with the group when they leave the farm.

* Speaking of leaving the farm, and we aren't there yet in the TV show, but Glenn decides to stay behind with Maggie when the group leaves.

* Otis never died.

* They never visited the CDC, and nobody ever whispered anything in Rick's ear.

* Shane never told Lori that Rick had died. In the book, they leave Rick to recuperate in the hospital, to go to Atlanta to be with Lori's family, because everyone is being urged to get to big cities for safety. Lori cheats on Rick with Shane, knowing full well that Rick is still alive.

Anyway, those are just some things that stick out in my head. Pretty good read...it looks like the prison stay is a MAJOR part of the storyline. I'm only about maybe 25% in to the book, and thumbing through it, looks like the rest of the book might be taking place in the prison.

 

[Phoenix]

Oh! I forgot one of the biggest differences! Not once have the zombies been referred to as "walkers" so far. They are always called "zombies" so far, except for one single reference to "roamers", zombies that walk around rather than just laying around doing nothing, which is what most of them do it seems. And the thing with Herschel in the bar never happened, so they never came across the two guys that Rick took out...so nobody has called them "lame brains" either

 

[TheCount]

* They picked up former NFL player "Tyreese" and his daughter (and her bf) along the way. Shane in the TV show is loosely playing the part of Tyreese after the campsite.

Yeah, essentially "T-Dog" should be Rick's bestie. Obviously that's not going to happen in the show.

Friend of mine that's very familiar with the books floated the idea that the guys at the bar and all that group are from the prison and that they'll get there eventually. Basically pointing out how they had no manners and the one dude was pissing on the floor.

 

[zrinkill]

Shane defers to Rick only because he wants to. Side by side Shane is twice as big and would destroy Rick in a fight....

You must have missed the at episode.

Shane used a weapon 3 different times and still lost.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I agree that they have done little with T-Dog this season, but I think they will explore further character development with him and Daryl in season 3. They got a little stuck in bringing along Rick vs. Shane and developing Herschel and Maggie's characters.

Either that or he will get knocked off in the last three episodes. :laugh2:

Hard to say, but shows with large casts have periods where certain characters add little for several episodes.

Watch the "Soprano's", characters will routinely become bit players for a while before becoming a big part of the story again.

 

[Phoenix]

The more I read in to the graphic novels, the more I'm starting to think that "The Walking Dead" title refers not to the zombies, but to our little cast of characters...turn of a phrase..."dead man walking"...

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

The more I read in to the graphic novels, the more I'm starting to think that "The Walking Dead" title refers not to the zombies, but to our little cast of characters...turn of a phrase..."dead man walking"...

Keep Reading.....

 

[trickblue]

The more I read in to the graphic novels, the more I'm starting to think that "The Walking Dead" title refers not to the zombies, but to our little cast of characters...turn of a phrase..."dead man walking"...

I've always thought it referred to everyone in the series...

Some are more dead than others...