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dbair1967;2990242 said:
I think he might be injured, but I dont think it just happened. His accuracy has been off since the season opener. I've never seen him miss this many open guys, at least not since his first training camp here. And he's missed alot of open guys in every regular season game.

I missed this spot-on bit of wisdom. What he said.
 

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Disturbed;2991204 said:
We don't need a theory to understand why Romo has not performed this year...all we need to understand is that "He fails under pressure - period!!!"

He makes the dumbest plays at the wrong times to give away games. Someone said their theory was "He Sucks"....well can't argue against that today.

yeah he made sooo many dumb plays at the wrong time today:rolleyes:

his problem today was he didnt make any plays today(except on 4th and 3 with the game on the line) he was to scared to... but thats what you all wanted...no dumb mistakes, no bonehead turn overs. well you got it and all that comes with it
 

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Disturbed;2991204 said:
We don't need a theory to understand why Romo has not performed this year...all we need to understand is that "He fails under pressure - period!!!"

He makes the dumbest plays at the wrong times to give away games. Someone said their theory was "He Sucks"....well can't argue against that today.

But on 4th down when he scrambled and found Hurd on what looked like a sack and ballgame. Did you get up and yell? To be honest I did because it was a good play.

What I didn't like though is why we didn't try and run Barber or Choice from the 2 yard line behind one of the biggest offensive lines in football. You think Barber wouldn't of taken or wanted that challenge. Again who has the authority on the sideline?

I'm not trying to defend the guy. Did he have a bad game, yes he did. But he put us in position to do something at the end and we failed to respond as a team.
 

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You guys remember Tony was the one during the offseason who said he was going to sharpen his game up and cut back on the turnovers.

I don't see that happening..he looks like the same guy he's always been. Throwing the ball up for grabs..fumbling.

He's making the same mistakes over and over.

Nothing has changed with him. Nothing.
 

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I'm certainly no expert, nor do I claim to be one. However, I'm going to act like one for just a minute here. It's completely OBVIOUS to me that Romo's primary problem is the offensive system and atmosphere he's now operating in and it's causing him great stress on the field. I guarantee you that the primary thing Romo has heard since the Giant's game is that he has to take care of the ball. I guarantee you he's heard it from the fans, the media, and most importantly, his coaches. That's been an emphasis since that Sunday night game and it has taken a toll on him. Don't get me wrong, we all know turnovers can be crippling and result in losses (see aforementioned Giants' game). However, Romo isn't a bus driver/game manager. As has been pointed out many times by myself and others on here, he just isn't that type of player. Yet, he's being forced to be that guy. It isnt' working and it won't work. Romo has to improvise; he has to move around; he has to use his athletic ability to extend plays. He can't sit in the pocket in a 7 step drop and wait for our WRs try to get open. Sure his style results in some heartbreaking turnovers and losses, but I'd rather risk playing that way than the manner in which we played and lost today. Wade and Garrett have taken away our greatest offensive weapon. I want to run the ball A LOT, but when we do throw it, I want to run an offense that allows Romo to make plays and not always depend on our less than stellar WRs to make them. Not to Garrett: scrape the Tom Brady clone and unleash the real Romo. We'll just live with the results, but at least we will score more than the 10 or 14 points our offense has scored the last two games.
 

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DallasGirl50;2991300 said:
You guys remember Tony was the one during the offseason who said he was going to sharpen his game up and cut back on the turnovers.

I don't see that happening..he looks like the same guy he's always been. Throwing the ball up for grabs..fumbling.

He's making the same mistakes over and over.

Nothing has changed with him. Nothing.

Agree to a point, but the two turnovers today weren't his fault. He got blindsided by a blitzer and fumbled, like almost every QB will do when hit in that position. Austin did not run the correct route on the interception. At least that's the way it appeared to me.
 

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Star4Ever;2991315 said:
I'm certainly no expert, nor do I claim to be one. However, I'm going to act like one for just a minute here. It's completely OBVIOUS to me that Romo's primary problem is the offensive system and atmosphere he's now operating in and it's causing him great stress on the field. I guarantee you that the primary thing Romo has heard since the Giant's game is that he has to take care of the ball. I guarantee you he's heard it from the fans, the media, and most importantly, his coaches. That's been an emphasis since that Sunday night game and it has taken a toll on him. Don't get me wrong, we all know turnovers can be crippling and result in losses (see aforementioned Giants' game). However, Romo isn't a bus driver/game manager. As has been pointed out many times by myself and others on here, he just isn't that type of player. Yet, he's being forced to be that guy. It isnt' working and it won't work. Romo has to improvise; he has to move around; he has to use his athletic ability to extend plays. He can't sit in the pocket in a 7 step drop and wait for our WRs try to get open. Sure his style results in some heartbreaking turnovers and losses, but I'd rather risk playing that way than the manner in which we played and lost today. Wade and Garrett have taken away our greatest offensive weapon. I want to run the ball A LOT, but when we do throw it, I want to run an offense that allows Romo to make plays and not always depend on our less than stellar WRs to make them. Not to Garrett: scrape the Tom Brady clone and unleash the real Romo. We'll just live with the results, but at least we will score more than the 10 or 14 points our offense has scored the last two games.

Romo was also inaccurate the first week.

He didn't improvise as much last year either, at least not during the second half of the season.

Protecting the ball and improvisation really have no connection. He can scramble without throwing the ball into double coverage.
 

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Star4Ever;2991328 said:
Agree to a point, but the two turnovers today weren't his fault. He got blindsided by a blitzer and fumbled, like almost every QB will do when hit in that position. Austin did not run the correct route on the interception. At least that's the way it appeared to me.

The ball is in his hands...if it hits the ground and the other team recovers it's his fault.

Just bottom line stuff to me.

On the Austin play eh we were in scoring territory..most definitely a FG.

I agree that it's not his fault every single time but let's be real...he's got the reputation as a QB that turns the ball over alot.

HE was the one that said he was going to correct the problems he's had with TO's.

I just don't see any difference in his play at all with regards to that.
 

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Romo has to grab the bull by the horns and lead this offense....

During the week of practice as well......

I hate seeing that "oh well' look when he throws a bad pass...

Make players accoutable...........

Romo needs to be our leader......not Witten....not Barber.....
 

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Mash;2991367 said:
Romo has to grab the bull by the horns and lead this offense....

During the week of practice as well......

I hate seeing that "oh well' look when he throws a bad pass...

Make players accoutable...........

Romo needs to be our leader......not Witten....not Barber.....
Yeah, I thought it was odd that Barber was trying to give Romo a pep talk after the INT. I'm not saying its wrong, but it looked as if Barber knew that Romo was getting down. I don't think you'd see a RB doing that with Manning, Brady, etc.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2990191 said:
D.) tunnel vision...

I had it in basketball, my coach was constantly getting on me when I brought the ball up the court, where I would be so focused on getting to the basket, or getting the ball to the post, that I would miss a lot of open guys on the wing

seems Romo likes to zone in on certain receivers, and forgets to scan the field

This is the thing I came to the conclusion with him last season...My hands went up in the air in the Pittsburgh game...From then on, I continue to see that problem rear it's head with Tony...I don't even know if it's really a 'correctable' thing either...He just doesn't see the field well enough to find the open man...I've been reading a lot of late about how the receivers aren't getting open but I don't believe that's the prevailing problem...We've already seen it several times since Game 1, Tony often times doesn't see the open receiver.
 

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FCBarca;2991403 said:
This is the thing I came to the conclusion with him last season...My hands went up in the air in the Pittsburgh game...From then on, I continue to see that problem rear it's head with Tony...I don't even know if it's really a 'correctable' thing either...He just doesn't see the field well enough to find the open man...I've been reading a lot of late about how the receivers aren't getting open but I don't believe that's the prevailing problem...We've already seen it several times since Game 1, Tony often times doesn't see the open receiver.

idk what he's thinking, I think it's just, "I'm going here, he looks a little bit open, so I'm still going here"

and there is another guy wide open

idk it's strange because '06, he was hitting guys left and right, 7 different receivers, now it's he has his top 3 guys he's always going to (Witten, Roy, Crayton) or the RB
 

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punchnjudy;2991352 said:
Romo was also inaccurate the first week.

He didn't improvise as much last year either, at least not during the second half of the season.

Protecting the ball and improvisation really have no connection. He can scramble without throwing the ball into double coverage.

Like everybody else, I want to pull my hair out when Romo forces a bad pass into double coverage or when he holds onto the ball like a loaf of bread and fumbles. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about all the straight 7 step drop backs that we've been using. It doesn't work for Romo and it never will. Romo isn't Brady or Aikman. That was their game, but it isn't his. Romo is more Staubach or Favre. Staubach is my favorite Cowboy of all time, but he was a risky QB too (especially during his first few years). You might try to limit that type of QB's creativity, but you can't try to completely stomp it out. If you do, you won't get production. Jerry Jones and the coaching staff know what kind of QB Romo is and if they don't like it, they should trade him and go in a different direction. That IMO, would be a big mistake. Right now I think Romo is confused as hell due to how Garrett is trying to use him. He's frustrated and doesn't appear to have any confidence in himself or his receivers. This is where coaching comes into play and unfortunately I don't think we've got much in that department.
 

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punchnjudy;2991352 said:
Romo was also inaccurate the first week.

He didn't improvise as much last year either, at least not during the second half of the season.

Protecting the ball and improvisation really have no connection. He can scramble without throwing the ball into double coverage.

By the way, you're right about Romo not improvising as much last year (same as this year so far). You remember where that got us? When he was allowed to play to his strengths we went 13-3 and would've advanced in the playoffs if his receivers had not let him down (hear me Crayton).
 

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bbgun;2990215 said:
I'm beginning to think that the Giants game bent his brain a little, and is now experiencing a Vandy-like crisis of confidence. I hope I'm wrong.
That was my original thought too, but it's so much more than that. Last week he looked hesitant to throw the ball down field. But today even his short passes were woefully inaccurate. He really hung Roy out to dry a few times, and many of those passes that Roy caught were thrown behind him.

I believe he's either injured, lost his confidence, or lacks discipline. It could be a combination of all three. I am leaning toward the latter one, though.
 

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TheSkaven;2991445 said:
That was my original thought too, but it's so much more than that. Last week he looked hesitant to throw the ball down field. But today even his short passes were woefully inaccurate. He really hung Roy out to dry a few times, and many of those passes that Roy caught were thrown behind him.

I believe he's either injured, lost his confidence, or lacks discipline. It could be a combination of all three. I am leaning toward the latter one, though.


Your second one was right: CONFIDENCE.
 

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Romo is a coach killer and is what he is..........a loser. Why do you think Parcells left after watching that chump drop a hold for a fg
 

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Geez, enough with all this "let Romo be Romo" crap.
Why can't he be BOTH an efficient, disciplined, "game-manager"-
as well as an improvisational, playground QB when needed?

I mean he's an NFL starting QB- is he so mentally deficient that his
being disciplined is out of the question?

Look at every QB past & present who's had success in this league-
they can make plays when required, BUT they also "manage" the game well.
And i'm not talking stats, as I'm sure some ROMO-HOMERS will start
spouting his numbers like gospel.
Romo needs to play winning, disciplined, INTELLIGENT football-
and not the helter-skelter, gunslinger crap that wins you lotsa games, but
not championships.

What good is all that talent if he's incapable of harnessing it?
 

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Star4Ever;2991420 said:
Like everybody else, I want to pull my hair out when Romo forces a bad pass into double coverage or when he holds onto the ball like a loaf of bread and fumbles. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about all the straight 7 step drop backs that we've been using. It doesn't work for Romo and it never will. Romo isn't Brady or Aikman. That was their game, but it isn't his. Romo is more Staubach or Favre. Staubach is my favorite Cowboy of all time, but he was a risky QB too (especially during his first few years). You might try to limit that type of QB's creativity, but you can't try to completely stomp it out. If you do, you won't get production. Jerry Jones and the coaching staff know what kind of QB Romo is and if they don't like it, they should trade him and go in a different direction. That IMO, would be a big mistake. Right now I think Romo is confused as hell due to how Garrett is trying to use him. He's frustrated and doesn't appear to have any confidence in himself or his receivers. This is where coaching comes into play and unfortunately I don't think we've got much in that department.

Interesting theory,but I don't think that is the problem(but i've been wrong before).For some reason Romo cannot constantly throw the ball with any authority,he's just afraid to turn it loose.I'm starting to think that it is a mental roadblock more than anything else,just something about his mental makeup.If you go back to last year Romo is 10-7 as a starter,8-5 last year combined with 2-2 this year.That gives him a winning pct. of right at 59% in 17 games.Just seems to me he is regressing since the end of that 13-3 season.I hope he can be fixed and hopefully by seasons end Romo will,i'm just not gonna buy into it until I see a more consistant player with better awareness.

Craig
 

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craig71;2991492 said:
Interesting theory,but I don't think that is the problem(but i've been wrong before).For some reason Romo cannot constantly throw the ball with any authority,he's just afraid to turn it loose.I'm starting to think that it is a mental roadblock more than anything else,just something about his mental makeup.If you go back to last year Romo is 10-7 as a starter,8-5 last year combined with 2-2 this year.That gives him a winning pct. of right at 59% in 17 games.Just seems to me he is regressing since the end of that 13-3 season.I hope he can be fixed and hopefully by seasons end Romo will,i'm just not gonna buy into it until I see a more consistant player with better awareness.

Craig
You're pretty much proving my point. In 2007, Romo was allowed to be Romo. Last year and this year our offensive system isn't the same. Like you, I do believe much of it is mental. He is very hesitant to throw the ball like he use to and I firmly believe that's because he's afraid of turnovers. It's also causing him to hold onto the ball too long. You can't play that way. You can't play not to lose. But, I believe that taking care of the ball has been stressed so much to him that he's now afraid to "sling it" because he doesn't want to turn it over. Again, you can't play that way. See Brett Favre.
 
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