There was no reason to draft Tyron’s replacement before this year

TheMarathonContinues

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There was no reason to draft the replacement to just about the most important position on the team when the starter cannot stay healthy? The man’s body has been breaking down before our eyes…
I guess it just depends on how you feel. If I draft a tackle I’m taking one in the first round and I just don’t know which first rounder I would’ve passed up on in favor of a inferior prospect.
 

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Oh here is the Pom Pom guy. Yes 100 percent you do that and trade tyron for a first or second rounder

Lol.. who in the flying f giving you a first or second at this point in tyron career, you just like talking nonsense. Yeah pay Armstead, them lose Kearse, Hooker and probably DLaw....yeah that's smart...lol
You so foolish, that you think you just sign anybody with no regards for other needs. They were trying to bring back Gregory, Kearse, Dlaw, Hooker but you want to give Armstead 5 years 87.5 million....lol
 

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Peyton Manning worked for the Broncos. Tom Brady worked for the Bucs. Ndamukong Suh also worked for the Bucs. Stephon Gilmore worked for the Patriots. Demarcus Ware worked for the Broncos. Drew Brees worked for New Orleans. Etc, etc, etc. YUP, there are plenty of FA failures. No risk, no reward.

You don’t have to police the mood. The Cowboys could have read the signs and done more or been more proactive in the draft, trades, or free agency. They have been rolling faulty dice with Tyron for years, and finally really got smacked. Yes, they absolutely had reasons to replace Tyron prior to this year. Nice defense though-you guys sound like you’re auditioning for Cowboy’s PR team.
I’m not auditioning for the PR team. They addressed tackle by drafting 3 tackles. I just don’t think this situation was ever going to be ideal. You can’t prepare for life when Tyron gets hurt or life for if Lamb or Dak gets hurt. I think this whole narrative is a joke.
 

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Draft-wise, they have done what they were supposed to do.
They saw a need used their 1st rounder to partially filled it.
I think the gripe is people wanted some FA action too
And I get that. But can we all agree that even if they signed a free agent we’d still be nervous about this offensive line when Tyron went down?
 

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I’m not auditioning for the PR team. They addressed tackle by drafting 3 tackles. I just don’t think this situation was ever going to be ideal. You can’t prepare for life when Tyron gets hurt or life for if Lamb or Dak gets hurt. I think this whole narrative is a joke.

I say they could do more. If they feel like they have properly addressed the situation, we will see the results of their evaluation very soon. Your notion that they could not envision and satisfactorily plan for Tyron’s imminent departure is lazy in my opinion. Proactive teams try to stay one step ahead by cashing in draft stock for an aging star to effectively move on. Use draft, player, and FA contract assets to address positions.

Teams can and do draft and develop LT’s in other rounds than the first. Orlando Brown Jr., David Bakhtiari. You are right that most elite LT’s come in the first round (along with every single other major position in the league). Some teams are MUCH better at self assessment than Dallas and are cool with moving on prior to a player literally playing till they have zero trade value.
 

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And most Here would'veost their .ind, because most folks here felt corner was the biggest need
Doesn't matter if the zone loses their minds or not, the Cowboys should've taken steps sometime in the last 3 years, especially in the last 2, to shore up that LT issue whether it was by draft or FA, but it was pure FO stupidity to ignore the issue till now when it was too late. LT is way too big of an issue to keep putting it off the way they have done, and Tyler Smith was not a fix. Smith was a gamble, not a quick fix as far as LT is concerned. We here on the Zone have seen this coming for quite some time, but the FO hasn't seen it????
IMO there is no worthwhile excuse whatsoever for this LT situation. Tyron's injury prone status didn't just start this spring, they have known this, they've watched this, and done nothing about it till now. :banghead::banghead:
 

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This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?
I believe drafting Tyler Smith was the perfect time to draft Tyron's replacement. Tyler is still green so he may not be ready to take the position over but now he will be getting a little OJT... on-the-job training.
 

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drafting tyler smith WAS/IS the plan.
only question now is...do they move him out there now or break him in at guard.
my guess is...they'll move him out there now.
why wait.
A rookie who has never played an NFL down at LT and just throw him to the dogs like a bone? I wouldn't even consider it.
 

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A rookie who has never played an NFL down at LT and just throw him to the dogs like a bone? I wouldn't even consider it.

It's not like he hasn't been on the field at all, Travis Frederick started as a rookie.
 

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Connor was drafted to be a guard. What he did in college is not of consequence to what he did for the Cowboys. He does not factor into their efforts to man the tackle position unless he does, in fact, play tackle.
The idea is you continually draft developmental players to be Tyron’s/La’El’s/etc’s replacement. Spending a 1st round pick once Tyron is no longer available is far too late as the player needs to develop before he’s ready to take over. A year too early is always better than a year too late. With that Dallas would be prepared today.

What compounds the issue is Dallas didn’t go out to replace Collins, but instead had their swing tackle become their starting RT, further exasperating everything. If Steele was Collins’ replacement? Who was Steele’s replacement? And With Tyron out, Dallas is down 2 quality tackles, the current LT and the swing tackle who’s now playing RT.

Exactly.
 

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This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?
They should have signed a vet swing tackle in the off season in view of the fact Tyrone has missed games every season the last 6 years.
It was not if he would miss games it was when.
Gross mismanagement on the front office.
Every fan has the right to be upset and disappointed.
 

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Well unfortunately, in the NFL it stands for "not for long". You have a much of positions that needed to be upgraded. They addressed the position twice in this draft and once last year. Josh Ball should be ready to be a swing tackle by now.
Great planners don't rely on hope.
 

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A rookie who has never played an NFL down at LT and just throw him to the dogs like a bone? I wouldn't even consider it.
then why draft him.
why draft any of them.
tyron smith...zack martin...travis frederick...all started as rookies.
none had ever played a down in the nfl when they started.
if the options are....josh ball...move terrence steele...or tyler.
i'm starting tyler.
its why we drafted him.
all the best players in the league...ALL OF THEM...started at 0.
 

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It's not like he hasn't been on the field at all, Travis Frederick started as a rookie.
True, but Travis Frederick was great. Unless I'm mistaken so did Zack Martin, and Zack Martin was great. I like Tyler Smith, but he's not a Zack Martin.
 

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They drafted the "rapper" in the 2nd round because they had a weakness in secondary and they didn't have the chance to get Horn or Surtain. You're having revionist history. Your plan was for them was to basically put a band aid on a gun shot wound by spending money on a vet linemen the previous team didn't want just so you can rush the process of building a line? I guess.

And what linemen would you have drafted to pass up on Lamb? Please show me the names.
And they were wrong
 

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Interesting….Little is on the trade block and injury prone and Radunz this preseason has looked even worse than Josh Ball…interesting names….
This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

Yep and it's quite conceivable that we drafted Tyler Smith as we can see Tyron demise and from Bruglar's early lists the 2023 draft is weak in Tackles....take a project ,who can plug and play at another position of weakness, and can gradually move to LT.
 

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True, but Travis Frederick was great. Unless I'm mistaken so did Zack Martin, and Zack Martin was great. I like Tyler Smith, but he's not a Zack Martin.

Maybe, but with the leagues focusing on pass rushing, rookie LT's are always going to struggle. Look at Ekwonu, Neal, Cross and Penning iall 4 have struggled against pass rushing.

The idea with Tyler was always, take him (in part due to the severe lack of LT in early reports of the 2023 draft), accept he will need seasoning, move him inside and work on his main weakness, hand placement. Year 1, get used to the pace and ferocity of the NFL and then in pre-season 2023 maybe work on moving him outside.
 

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We built an o line and it paid off in 2016. Since then all resources have gone unto supporting the two super stars that I was told made it all happen. One of them looks like they are 1 or 2 years away from retirement. The other one will milk the team for a billion dollars for years to come and will always have a GM ready and willing to make excuses as necessary.
 
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