There was no reason to draft Tyron’s replacement before this year

[blueblood70]

This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

Agreed but well they sort of did, the Other Tsmith 73

they have addressed it in many drafts , just not with high draft picks and those picks could still do things, zoners calling them trash, some trolls said all of them together are worth sandwich,smh clueless fans , overactions are in full force..overdrive,

I remember when Big Nate newton was thought to be an overweight jag and many thought he wouldn't make the team..hmm steeles been better than advertised so has guy like Doug Free were uinderrated and hated here etic didn't Parnell get nice deal when he left that other Guard..

its possible wolezztco(sp?) or ball can develop. Fans dont want to hear it.. same fans think if you are all pro or PB your rookie year they want you gone LOL guys like BO and Wright many have said they hope they are cut ..BO already showing some improvement. fans are clueless.

 

[LowTech]

to many people on this board that all they want to do is complain. it gets old

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Agreed but well they sort of did, the Other Tsmith 73

they have addressed it in many drafts , just not with high draft picks and those picks could still do things, zoners calling them trash, some trolls said all of them together are worth sandwich,smh clueless fans , overactions are in full force..overdrive,

I remember when Big Nate newton was thought to be an overweight jag and many thought he wouldn't make the team..hmm steeles been better than advertised so has guy like Doug Free were uinderrated and hated here etic didn't Parnell get nice deal when he left that other Guard..

its possible wolezztco(sp?) or ball can develop. Fans dont want to hear it.. same fans think if you are all pro or PB your rookie year they want you gone LOL guys like BO and Wright many have said they hope they are cut ..BO already showing some improvement. fans are clueless.

I agree with you and this is my thing. They've addressed the position. From 1st round to mid round....where is the narrative coming from that they completely avoided it? Everyone is piggybacking it as well.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Address it in FA. We could/should have found a suitable backup for Tyron in FA knowing he hasn't played a full season in several years. This franchise very stubbornly ignores FA. FA is not meant to build a roster but to fill holes. We didn't fill a hole in OT and now we're going to pay for it.

So we're upset we didn't get a backup tackle? We have backup tackles now lol. That are just as good as guys out there in free agency if not BETTER.

Common sense is not looked upon favorably here, only Ken, Nancie and Karen responses of the sky is falling will be appreciated going forward. Ty…

Man I get it lol. Trust me I do. I'm just disappointed in the media and these so called fans around here who are running with this narrative. Its lazy and egregious. They've addressed the position. So the frustration comes because they didn't sign a 40 year old tackle? Huh lol?

Come on. That's so off base. We used a 4th rounder on an OT in 2021 and before that the last player we drafted to play OT was Green in the 3rd round of 2015. We also signed Collins in 2015. Our free agent signings have all felt like half-assed attempts to bring in a short term backup. We absolutely should have addressed the problem more seriously before this year. We are playing at OT an UDFA and an All Time great who is an injury waiting to happen with a first year 4th and 5th rounder backing them up. It's ridiculous.

And they just found Terrence Steele and stole him in free agency and developed him as well.

But this is my question. What would you guys have done? They addressed the position in mid round....that's not good enough. So what were they suppose to do? Are people telling me they should've took Slater over Parsons? They should've passed up Lamb and/or Diggs for a tackle?

I think people are just talking out of their *** and are not realistically looking at how they should've addressed the position in the draft. The only saving hope this franchise has is on the backs of guys like Diggs, Lamb, Parsons and their youth. Yet, they should've passed them up for a tackle when we already committed to Tyron....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

to many people on this board that all they want to do is complain. it gets old

Old and played out. They should try something new like think logical and less irrational.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Lamb - we did not need a WR to be honest!

So they could draft Austin Jackson who's sucked thus far in the NFL and Isaiah Wilson who's been on 3 teams SINCE the 2020 draft and oh yeah he's currently a free agent since he got released from the Giants practice squad. But it would've been smarter for them to pass up Lamb in favor of those guys? Make it make sense......

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Cowboys needed to address that position this year but clearly didn't think forward enough to realize that Collins and Williams needed replaced also. Can't fix 3 holes with only 1 first round pick.

I don't think they felt Collins and Williams were irreplaceable. They already replaced Collins with Steele which made Collins expendable. And they essentially were replacing Connor Williams with McGovern. They didn't lose members of the Hall of Fame. They lost one lazy underachiever and the other above average penalty riddled guard.

 

[Runwildboys]

So they could draft Austin Jackson who's sucked thus far in the NFL and Isaiah Wilson who's been on 3 teams SINCE the 2020 draft and oh yeah he's currently a free agent since he got released from the Giants practice squad. But it would've been smarter for them to pass up Lamb in favor of those guys? Make it make sense......

Plus now we'd have who?...Cooper?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

In the 2nd round...bro. Many times in recent years. Check this out ...

Wasted 2nd round picks multiple years with picks like CB Kelvin Joseph (2021), DT Trysten Hill (2019), OL Connor Williams (2018), CB Chidobe Awuzie (2017), LB Jaylon Smith (2016) and DE Randy Gregory (2015).

Cowboys definitely should have used a 2nd round pick at least once or twice to draft another O-Tackle or two since 2015.

Your Offense goes according to how your Oline goes.

So they had extreme needs those years....but the move was to take a 2nd round tackle to backup Tyron? We'd be livid if they used a 2nd rounder on a swing tackle that would start 3 or 4 times a year if that. What are the chances our future left tackle was going to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick or lower? Seems like it was wishful thinking and praying from fans.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Plus now we'd have who?...Cooper?

Right. They'd have Amari Cooper....a guy they just got rid of because they questioned his passion for the game.

 

[Runwildboys]

Right. They'd have Amari Cooper....a guy they just got rid of because they questioned his passion for the game.

Exactly

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Parson was definitely the right pick.

Honestly, if you were to ask me to use hindsight to find a LT in the first two rounds the last 3 years, Ill tell you to trade up from the 2nd to the 1st for Darrisaw. That would have been a big move though

Would've been for sure. I don't think I trade up for linemen though...hell I really don't trade up for anyone but a QB if I need one honestly.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Exactly

But see these fans...they don't think about stuff like that. They only think about the positive when it comes to hindsight.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You don't need to spend a top draft pick on an OT. We could have filled that void earlier by signing either a swing tackle or a guard so that we won't be beholden to spend big or spend draft capital on getting one.

Our oline was a major weakness even before Smith went done. Now its the number one glaring issue and the more we wait, the bigger this problem is going to get.

If the oline still becomes a major issue, blame it on Jerry and Stephen for their lack or awareness on how to build a football dynasty.

You don't need to spend a top draft pick on OT. They didn't. They've addressed the position in the past on tackles like Connor Williams in the 2nd among other guys. And it hasn't worked.

And look at the best left tackles in the league. Most of them are 1st round picks. Its no coincidence.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You dont have to take years to rebuild an Oline. You can do it in one or two offseasons if you are devoted to it. Plenty good guards and tackles in FA this year.

Huge mistake not getting at least one more. Didnt have to draft the rapper in the 2nd round last year either. Lamb pick could have gone OL as well.

They drafted the "rapper" in the 2nd round because they had a weakness in secondary and they didn't have the chance to get Horn or Surtain. You're having revionist history. Your plan was for them was to basically put a band aid on a gun shot wound by spending money on a vet linemen the previous team didn't want just so you can rush the process of building a line? I guess.

And what linemen would you have drafted to pass up on Lamb? Please show me the names.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Doesnt have to be a first round pick, doesn’t have to be the next Tyron Smith. Just anything to make the position a strength. Second and third round picks to shore up the position would be more than enough.

LT, RT, backup RT, Tyron heir, Swing Tackle. Before Tyler Smith, Cowboys had spent 2 total picks before the fourth round on the tackle position since 2010. One was Tyron Smith, and one was Chaz Green. 2 out of 36 selections. And if Tyler ends up staying at guard, they keep the streak going.

Dallas took Tyron in 2011, took Chaz in 2013, and then stated they were fine there for the rest of the decade. We don’t even need to go through the draft histories to state no other team did that. I’d be surprised if we could find a team with less than 5. That’s where all of this vitriol stems from. This isn’t the first year the team has had backup tackle problems. It’s impressive Dallas has as many wins in that span as they do with that kind of negligence.

Did they not just spend a 2nd round pick on Connor William just to have to move him to guard because they had Collins at right tackle and Tyron at the left?

And yes, if you are looking to replace Tyron Smith it needs to be a 1st rounder. Saying he can be a later pick is like saying you should draft QB in the 6th round because Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. The list of of the best left tackles in this league are mostly former 1st round picks.

 

[Jarntt]

So we're upset we didn't get a backup tackle? We have backup tackles now lol. That are just as good as guys out there in free agency if not BETTER.


Man I get it lol. Trust me I do. I'm just disappointed in the media and these so called fans around here who are running with this narrative. Its lazy and egregious. They've addressed the position. So the frustration comes because they didn't sign a 40 year old tackle? Huh lol?



And they just found Terrence Steele and stole him in free agency and developed him as well.

But this is my question. What would you guys have done? They addressed the position in mid round....that's not good enough. So what were they suppose to do? Are people telling me they should've took Slater over Parsons? They should've passed up Lamb and/or Diggs for a tackle?

I think people are just talking out of their *** and are not realistically looking at how they should've addressed the position in the draft. The only saving hope this franchise has is on the backs of guys like Diggs, Lamb, Parsons and their youth. Yet, they should've passed them up for a tackle when we already committed to Tyron....

They didn’t address the position properly. What part of that isn’t clear?

Every year fans have been calling to sign or draft a tackle. There are free agents out there every year that can help us and we did nothing but sign old, one year ****** stop gaps and used a 4th rounder last year and that’s where you think we addressed it? Seriously? That’s 100% on our front office. My philosophy is you fill your biggest holes through free agency and then draft BPA. But you can do it either way. You just need to give more than a veteran minimum type effort. If you want specifics, that’s the front offices job. Isn’t that what they are paid for? If you want my thoughts, I’ve wanted OTs for a few years because it was clear Smith wasn’t reliable from a health perspective. Anyone can see that unless they have their head in the sand. Last year I wanted to trade up for Darrisaw. They also could have taken Cosmi instead of Joseph. They could have taken Wynn who many now want to trade for instead of Vander esch. There are countless “could have scenarios”. The point is they didn’t attempt any of them. Even if they failed at least an attempt would have shown they understood the problem. As we sit here and they still do nothing it’s clear they still don’t understand the problem.

They also could have drafted or traded for a better center or guard which also strengthens the line and helps cover for poor OT play. We had a few games two years ago where we were playing what seemed like a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers after everyone got hurt. The need to help the OL was evident and yet they did little. Thank goodness they finally drafted an OL this year but they should have signed one or two as well. Let your kids prove they can play instead of sending them out there and possibly getting your QB killed. There are plenty of spots at the bottom of your roster for young kids to sort them out. Just for us it seems like all we have.

 

[Jarntt]

They drafted the "rapper" in the 2nd round because they had a weakness in secondary and they didn't have the chance to get Horn or Surtain. You're having revionist history. Your plan was for them was to basically put a band aid on a gun shot wound by spending money on a vet linemen the previous team didn't want just so you can rush the process of building a line? I guess.

And what linemen would you have drafted to pass up on Lamb? Please show me the names.

So You ask questions that you don’t actually want answers to? Typical

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No, you didn't have to draft his replacement, but you did need to have a solid plan for a swing tackle when you know your starter is an injury risk.

They had a total of zero guys behind Tyron who have ever started an NFL game at tackle.

But if they had a swing tackle the situation would still be a bad situation. When you are down to your swing tackle you are in trouble...normally. Eagles managed to win a ring without their starting tackle if i'm not mistaken.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So You ask questions that you don’t actually want answers to? Typical

Typically in a debate two parties engage in conversation with each other. If I don't agree with the answer you gave i'm going to question it. Is that how you operate? You believe your word is gospel and shouldn't be disputed? Typical.