There was no reason to draft Tyron’s replacement before this year

[TheMarathonContinues]

They didn’t address the position properly. What part of that isn’t clear?

Every year fans have been calling to sign or draft a tackle. There are free agents out there every year that can help us and we did nothing but sign old, one year ****** stop gaps and used a 4th rounder last year and that’s where you think we addressed it? Seriously? That’s 100% on our front office. My philosophy is you fill your biggest holes through free agency and then draft BPA. But you can do it either way. You just need to give more than a veteran minimum type effort. If you want specifics, that’s the front offices job. Isn’t that what they are paid for? If you want my thoughts, I’ve wanted OTs for a few years because it was clear Smith wasn’t reliable from a health perspective. Anyone can see that unless they have their head in the sand. Last year I wanted to trade up for Darrisaw. They also could have taken Cosmi instead of Joseph. They could have taken Wynn who many now want to trade for instead of Vander esch. There are countless “could have scenarios”. The point is they didn’t attempt any of them. Even if they failed at least an attempt would have shown they understood the problem. As we sit here and they still do nothing it’s clear they still don’t understand the problem.

They also could have drafted or traded for a better center or guard which also strengthens the line and helps cover for poor OT play. We had a few games two years ago where we were playing what seemed like a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers after everyone got hurt. The need to help the OL was evident and yet they did little. Thank goodness they finally drafted an OL this year but they should have signed one or two as well. Let your kids prove they can play instead of sending them out there and possibly getting your QB killed. There are plenty of spots at the bottom of your roster for young kids to sort them out. Just for us it seems like all we have.

I would respond but you seem to have a issue with those who disagree with you so i'm going to bow out.......

 

[Jarntt]

Typically in a debate two parties engage in conversation with each other. If I don't agree with the answer you gave i'm going to question it. Is that how you operate? You believe your word is gospel and shouldn't be disputed? Typical.

You ask people what they would do and then argue it. That’s not a debate that’s whining

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Did they not just spend a 2nd round pick on Connor William just to have to move him to guard because they had Collins at right tackle and Tyron at the left?

And yes, if you are looking to replace Tyron Smith it needs to be a 1st rounder. Saying he can be a later pick is like saying you should draft QB in the 6th round because Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. The list of of the best left tackles in this league are mostly former 1st round picks.

Connor was drafted to be a guard. What he did in college is not of consequence to what he did for the Cowboys. He does not factor into their efforts to man the tackle position unless he does, in fact, play tackle.

The idea is you continually draft developmental players to be Tyron’s/La’El’s/etc’s replacement. Spending a 1st round pick once Tyron is no longer available is far too late as the player needs to develop before he’s ready to take over. A year too early is always better than a year too late. With that Dallas would be prepared today.

What compounds the issue is Dallas didn’t go out to replace Collins, but instead had their swing tackle become their starting RT, further exasperating everything. If Steele was Collins’ replacement? Who was Steele’s replacement? And With Tyron out, Dallas is down 2 quality tackles, the current LT and the swing tackle who’s now playing RT.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You ask people what they would do and then argue it. That’s not a debate that’s whining

Arguing against a debate is whining? Alright. Have a good safe night.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Connor was drafted to be a guard. What he did in college is not of consequence to what he did for the Cowboys. He does not factor into their efforts to man the tackle position unless he does, in fact, play tackle.

The idea is you continually draft developmental players to be Tyron’s/La’El’s/etc’s replacement. Spending a 1st round pick once Tyron is no longer available is far too late as they player needs to develop before he’s ready to take over. A year too early is always better than a year too late. With that Dallas would be prepared today.

What compounds the issue is Dallas didn’t go out to replace Collins, but instead had their swing tackle become their starting RT, further exasperating everything.

Connor was a left guard just like Tyler Smith is a left guard. Both have/had the ability to play tackle and Connor probably would've been our tackle if it wasn't for La'El Collins.

They've literally used draft picks on Tyler Smith, Matt Waletzk and Josh Ball.

People aren't being realistic here. Maybe they made the mistake of thinking he'd be out for the season........but the guy has played for the most part 11-13 games a season.

 

[tunahelper]

This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

How about preparing for the known issue like a real FO would have done. Get a competent backup/swing LT, so the team is not handcuffed when Tryon gets injured.

Everyone knew Tryon would get hurt and the Jones boys failed to prepare because they are superior talent evaluators.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How about preparing for the known issue like a real FO would have done. Get a competent backup/swing LT, so the team is not handcuffed when Tryon gets injured.

Everyone knew Tryon would get hurt and the Jones boys failed to prepare because they are superior talent evaluators.

Well unfortunately, in the NFL it stands for "not for long". You have a much of positions that needed to be upgraded. They addressed the position twice in this draft and once last year. Josh Ball should be ready to be a swing tackle by now.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Connor was a left guard just like Tyler Smith is a left guard. Both have/had the ability to play tackle and Connor probably would've been our tackle if it wasn't for La'El Collins.

They've literally used draft picks on Tyler Smith, Matt Waletzk and Josh Ball.

People aren't being realistic here. Maybe they made the mistake of thinking he'd be out for the season........but the guy has played for the most part 11-13 games a season.

I think there’s a difference between drafting enough T’s to fill a 53 man roster and grooming Tyron’s replacement. Waletzko wasn’t drafted to play anytime soon, he’s about as developmental as it gets. Smith is another Connor situation. He may very well be a career G if he doesn’t get the job here. Is Ball the appropriate player to man the position on this year’s playoff run?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think there’s a difference between drafting enough T’s to fill a 53 man roster and grooming Tyron’s replacement. Waletzko wasn’t drafted to play anytime soon, he’s about as developmental as it gets. Smith is another Connor situation. He may very well be a career G if he doesn’t get the job here. Is Ball the appropriate player to man the position on this year’s playoff run?

Waletzko had draft grades around the 3 or 4th round range. I mean....what tackle isn't developmental? Tackles don't just come in NFL ready and if they are they are top 5 picks.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Waletzko had draft grades around the 3 or 4th round range. I mean....what tackle isn't developmental? Tackles don't just come in NFL ready and if they are they are top 5 picks.

But that’s my point, you can’t wait until you need him to draft a tackle. Tyron’s replacement, La’El’s replacement should have been on the roster for a few years now

 

[pupulehaole]

This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

Theres this really cool thing called free agency. Might want to look into it. Its shnazzy

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Theres this really cool thing called free agency. Might want to look into it. Its shnazzy

Free agency? Is that the thing where teams let players walk they don't think is good enough go retain? The place where you overpay for average talent? The place where Collins and Connor Williams...the two guys we complained about were on numerous top 10 lists? Interesting.....never heard of it.

 

[Tussinman]

But that’s my point, you can’t wait until you need him to draft a tackle. Tyron’s replacement, La’El’s replacement should have been on the roster for a few years now

Exactly. LIterally nothing was done from 2017 to now (half a decade).

Arguably the 2nd most valueable position in the entire sport and no real development done. From 2017-2020 (4 straight draft classes) they didn't even draft a tackle.

Both La'el and Tyron go down in 2020 ? We'll draft Marshalls finest Ball in the 4th and signed 36 year old Ty Nsekhe that should sure up the tackle spot for the coming years

Like you said, they completely ignored the postion for a very long time and now they have nothing development wise to fall back on. That's the main reason why I'm not even made at Tyron, they've known about his health issues for a very long time

 

[plymkr]

So we're upset we didn't get a backup tackle? We have backup tackles now lol. That are just as good as guys out there in free agency if not BETTER.

Are you saying that Ball is better than any FA we could sign? How would you know? Ball has never played a snap in a regular season game. Counting on a guy who couldn't get on the field in any capacity in his NFL career to backup a chronically injured player was blatantly irresponsible.

If things stay exactly the same we will start the season with an average center, a rookie LG and a 2nd year player that has never taken a snap in the NFL at LT. Also sitting on 20+ million of salary cap. No. Not good planning.

 

[phildadon86]

This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

Don’t take Joseph. Take radunz or little. That’s how

 

[phildadon86]

You're cutting Tyron and paying Armstead 5 year 87.5 million 43 million up front...lol

Oh here is the Pom Pom guy. Yes 100 percent you do that and trade tyron for a first or second rounder

 

[EST_1986]

This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

There was no reason to draft the replacement to just about the most important position on the team when the starter cannot stay healthy? The man’s body has been breaking down before our eyes…

 

[DFWJC]

This weird narrative that’s going around media and fans is the Cowboys should’ve addressed tackle before now. First off the narrative is a lie. They have addressed tackle in the middle of the draft. Now if the argument is they should’ve addressed it in the first round? The only time it made sense was Slater over Parsons and that would’ve set this team back years.


So when was this suppose to happen? When we drafted Lamb? Diggs? When?

Draft-wise, they have done what they were supposed to do.
They saw a need used their 1st rounder to partially filled it.
I think the gripe is people wanted some FA action too

 

[Blitzen]

Free agency? Is that the thing where teams let players walk they don't think is good enough go retain? The place where you overpay for average talent? The place where Collins and Connor Williams...the two guys we complained about were on numerous top 10 lists? Interesting.....never heard of it.

Peyton Manning worked for the Broncos. Tom Brady worked for the Bucs. Ndamukong Suh also worked for the Bucs. Stephon Gilmore worked for the Patriots. Demarcus Ware worked for the Broncos. Drew Brees worked for New Orleans. Etc, etc, etc. YUP, there are plenty of FA failures. No risk, no reward.

You don’t have to police the mood. The Cowboys could have read the signs and done more or been more proactive in the draft, trades, or free agency. They have been rolling faulty dice with Tyron for years, and finally really got smacked. Yes, they absolutely had reasons to replace Tyron prior to this year. Nice defense though-you guys sound like you’re auditioning for Cowboy’s PR team.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Replacement? Perhaps not, but they should have done more to bring in depth as contingency for his inevitable injuries. They have too much cap space and have shotgunned too many picks at the secondary to get a pass.

Cutting Collins would've made sense had they planned on bringing in a swing tackle to fill Steele's position. They did not. The front office really messed this line up in a single off-season, it seems.