There's more tape on Dak now

[diefree666]

The whole "tape" narrative has grown beyond old. Teams have had more and more tape on Dak every passing week, and he only kept getting better. There was an entire season of tape on Dak by the GB game in the playoffs, and he had one of his best games of the year.

only the teams that have the D can really shut him down. GB was nowhere near that good so your point is pointless.

 

[SDCowboy]

only the teams that have the D can really shut him down. GB was nowhere near that good so your point is pointless.

Oh you mean like the Steelers and Ravens did?

 

[Kevinicus]

I always like to consider this point. What did the individual do at every level? Did his (or her) performance improve over time or digress? Did he put up bigger stats and win more games as his career at MSU (against country's best college competition mind you) progressed? I think you know the answer and I think it is a good indicator of how he will evolve as a pro.

I don't look at college numbers at all. There is a huge sample size of it not meaning a thing when it comes to the NFL.

I don't pay much attention to the college game, so I don't really know how he, or most other players, did while they were in school.

 

[lqmac1]

They will study what the Giants did and the other teams did that appeared to limit him and will try and repeat it. FOR ANYONE to claim that does not matter is to show their true football ignorance.

How about him having tape on defenses and learning to adjust? Or is it only a one-way street?

 

[AsthmaField]

I didn't say there's no such thing as a one hit wonder. There were a lot of reasons for Nick Foles' nose dive, but it wasn't DCs getting tape on him necessarily.

Yep. It was coordinators getting film on Chip Kelly's wonkey offense, not Foles. Same with Griffin in Washington.

Dak did nothing out of the ordinary last year. Plain power run offense all of these guys have seen for their entire careers. Not much to figure out there. Bring an eighth (or ninth) man up in the box or risk Elliott going crazy on you. Once you do that, Dak has plenty of room to find open guys.

Good luck figuring that out.

 

[AsthmaField]

The room for improvement is by far in Dak's favor. Coordinators might find a few things about Dak that can slow him, but Dak will improve just about every aspect of his play. His recognition from his rookie season to his second season will be considerably more advanced.

And speaking of advanced, Linehan will be able to do a whole lot more with Dak in year two.

 

[Bullflop]

I feel confident that whatever teams do to take advantage of Dak's weakness will be overcome. There's no doubt at all that the entire league will be doing some focused film study on Dak's weaknesses. At the same time, we can be certain that Dak is abundantly motivated to exert himself doggedly upon correcting them. His work ethic has long been above reproach. That, more than likely, won't change anytime soon. He'll also get some experienced advice from the team's coaches. Help will be on hand. They'll work hard to extract as much as possible from his performance.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Garrett's actually ahead of Belichick thus far in their relative careers in terms of wins and losses.

Garrett had the had the half season in 2020 which kind of throws the comparison off. He'd need to have won the Super Bowl either last year or this coming season to continue to keep pace.

He's no Belichick. But neither is the reigning NFL COTY an amateur. He knows what he's doing.

Dak's no Brady, either. But he did turn in a fantastic rookie season. We'll see where it goes, but as of right now at least, there's no reason for Cowboys fans to wallow in Patriots envy. Just enjoy the good football team while we've got it.

LOL............now you are comparing Garrett to belichick? You have no shame. Talk about sad. I have never heard a more homer rant then this.

COTY is a posh team award that he made a mockery of as he tossed away the playoff game with his in game management.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Garrett/Bellichek is laughable I agree.

Prescott/Brady I am not sure why. They have a very similar skill set and work ethic. Problem is the above.

If you take out Garrett and insert Bellichick the Cowboys probably make it to the SB, they definitely beat GB, and who knows from there. Hard to say when the Pats actually had Belli.

 

[AsthmaField]

COTY is a posh team award that he made a mockery of as he tossed away the playoff game with his in game management.

Game management? How was he supposed to manage the game so that a red hot Aaron Rogers couldn't find open WR's with a bunch of average DB's?

Even with all that, Dallas still might have won had Rogers not made a near impossible throw down the sidelines to get them in field goal range. Had the entire DL not been choked from behind on that play, Rogers probably doesn't have like, 20 seconds to find an open guy.

Like Sam Wyche once said, "They'll live... but that is a penalty."

Let me guess: Garrett needed to run the ball more and make every kickoff into an onsides kick so that Rogers never saw the ball.

 

[Idgit]

Hodor, hodor hodor? Hodor, hodor, hodor, hodor...

Anything can be compared, and I wasn't the one who made the original comparison. I just pointed out that Garrett had won more games through this point in his career than Belichick had, which isn't a matter of opinion.

I don't think Jason Garrett is Bill Belichick. I tried, and apparently failed, to convey this by saying 'he's no Belichick.' But I guess that wasn't clear enough for everybody.

And I don't think Dak Prescott is Tom Brady either, for the record. Brady and Belichick aren't just generational greats. They're all-timers.

 

[OUCowboy]

Game management? How was he supposed to manage the game so that a red hot Aaron Rogers couldn't find open WR's with a bunch of average DB's?

Even with all that, Dallas still might have won had Rogers not made a near impossible throw down the sidelines to get them in field goal range. Had the entire DL not been choked from behind on that play, Rogers probably doesn't have like, 20 seconds to find an open guy.

Like Sam Wyche once said, "They'll live... but that is a penalty."

Let me guess: Garrett needed to run the ball more and make every kickoff into an onsides kick so that Rogers never saw the ball.

It's pretty hard to argue with you about that. I went back and watched that play over the weekend. The Green Bay OL had our DL in a collective choke hold. And we still had Rodgers on the run towards the sideline.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Anything can be compared, and I wasn't the one who made the original comparison. I just pointed out that Garrett had won more games through this point in his career than Belichick had, which isn't a matter of opinion.

I don't think Jason Garrett is Bill Belichick. I tried, and apparently failed, to convey this by saying 'he's no Belichick.' But I guess that wasn't clear enough for everybody.

And I don't think Dak Prescott is Tom Brady either, for the record. Brady and Belichick aren't just generational greats. They're all-timers.

I would agree about Prescott. But with Garrett as head coach, even if he was, he would never have close to the same success.

Your record is widely known on Garrett. You think he is a good coach. But I ask you this.......................Even if he was, why would you settle for good? Why the low standards? Jimmy Johnson standards, Bellichick standards. No doubt you will just give the company line that its all we can hope for as long as Jerry is the head coach right?

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Yep. It was coordinators getting film on Chip Kelly's wonkey offense, not Foles. Same with Griffin in Washington.

Dak did nothing out of the ordinary last year. Plain power run offense all of these guys have seen for their entire careers. Not much to figure out there. Bring an eighth (or ninth) man up in the box or risk Elliott going crazy on you. Once you do that, Dak has plenty of room to find open guys.

Good luck figuring that out.

One thing I noticed was Dak seemed less accurate on mid-range passes. I'm sure the coaches will work with him to improve that, but I wonder if opposing defenses will ry to find a way to exploit that.

 

[Idgit]

I would agree about Prescott. But with Garrett as head coach, even if he was, he would never have close to the same success.

Your record is widely known on Garrett. You think he is a good coach. But I ask you this.......................Even if he was, why would you settle for good? Why the low standards? Jimmy Johnson standards, Bellichick standards. No doubt you will just give the company line that its all we can hope for as long as Jerry is the head coach right?

I'm in favor of upgrading over Garrett when the opportunity presents itself. I'm not in favor of changing for the sake of changing because I place a lot of value in organizational consistency. And I think we're really seeing the benefit of that in Dallas right now.

I thought we might have made a play for Jim Harbaugh a few years back, though yeah, I did have concerns about him being able to play nicely with Jerry. Belichick, as I've said, is an all-time great. I like Arians better than Garrett, though he's now rumored to be retiring each offseason and that's not a great sign.

Then again, most people who are fans of football and who aren't fans sitting around in their living room yelling that we should have thrown it when a run doesn't work and run it when a throw doesn't work seem to understand that Jason Garrett is a pretty good coach. It's why you saw multiple teams approach him for HC gigs when he was just a position coach, it's why Jerry elevated him directly rather than risk losing him eventually. It's why his staff and players speak highly of him. It's part of why the team overachieved with some fairly flawed roster in 2011-2013, and it's why we're winning 12 and 13 games with better rosters here recently. It's why he wins COTY awards for the league which aren't at all, as you try to suggest, that easy to come by. It's why all-time greats say good things about him, like the quote in my sig.

I see zero reason why this current team, with a bit of pass rush help and some upgraded talent on defense can't be competing regularly for championships. You might not agree, but it's not like that idea is far-fetched after a 13-3 season with a rookie signal caller. I don't consider that having low standards. I'd suggest instead that fans who want to spend effort and resources fixing what isn't broken instead of addressing what obviously needs attention are the ones not concerned enough about the standards for wins in Dallas right now. We didn't get the 5 Superbowl wins in the first place by doing dumb things once we got close.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas still might have won had Rogers not made a near impossible throw down the sidelines to get them in field goal range. Had the entire DL not been choked from behind on that play, Rogers probably doesn't have like, 20 seconds to find an open guy.

Ain't that the truth!

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Makes me wonder about the tape of me at Walmart.

They probably got me figured out.

 

[StarBoyz83]

If you take out Garrett and insert Bellichick the Cowboys probably make it to the SB, they definitely beat GB, and who knows from there. Hard to say when the Pats actually had Belli.

Even with belicheck Dallas getting off to slow starts would've got them stomped by Atlanta. Imo

 

[StarBoyz83]

Makes me wonder about the tape of me at Walmart.

They probably got me figured out.

They did don't go back lol

 

[CATCH17]

The room for improvement is by far in Dak's favor. Coordinators might find a few things about Dak that can slow him, but Dak will improve just about every aspect of his play. His recognition from his rookie season to his second season will be considerably more advanced.

And speaking of advanced, Linehan will be able to do a whole lot more with Dak in year two.

lol I was with you until that part.

These coaches will do nothing but run their bland system on both sides of the ball and we'll just have to hope it doesn't cost us our season.