They cannot make the Lamb mistake again

[MoistMayonnaise]

They could get Cooper's replacement at any time, WR is the deepest position in the draft.

That is funny.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He is an enticing pick but with all of the media pointing fingers at the D, they will go D. Under this GM's watch, this team just had the worst D in their history and that is going to be echoing until April.

I looked back at our Defensive drafts over the past 15 years...since 2005 we have picked one defensive player we could call impactful (Lawrence), one good player in Jones (we let him walk), the rest have been ho hum, big risk, injury prone players we gambled on. and that's 65 picks in the 15 years...

during the same period offensively we have had Dak, Zeke, Lamb, Gallup, Smith, Martin, Fredrick, Collins, Schultz, Pollard, Rico Gathers (hahaha), Murray, Dez, Doug Free, Cooper (trade).

that's a whole lot of good starters and elite type players, yet defensively we suck in draft and FA or trade.

 

[Typhus]

Yes, it was a mistake because it was all for flash and splash while bobbing around on the ocean, it was a pick for applause. It was all luxury for a team deep in needs.

The case some make is the value of Lamb at 17. Was he not a value at 16, 15, 14, 13? Why did those GM's pass on him? Because they're GM's with their jobs on the line to improve the team, not take a bow for a draft pick.

Another case is what D player was worth that pick? Chaisson? The answer is any D player that could help the worst D in the league and worst in Cowboys history. He didn't have to be a world beater, just a player they could count on to be 1 of the 11.

1 of 11. How many do they have now? If they'd used that on a D player, might they be closer than they are now? And what if he doesn't work out? Then they'd know and keep going back to the well.

I saw all of the celebrating here when they took Lamb and few asking why was he available? Partly because most GM's were trying to fill needs and partly because they didn't have him at 6th on their board.

He was the Cowboys first pick and led them in drops and was 2nd in the league in drops but his fans here will make excuses for him. And WR is the most plentiful position in the league.

This draft should be the easiest for the Cowboys, if they go D as they should have last year. Their needs are plenty and the only position they don't need with that first pick is DE.

The Lamb pick was a mistake and I had 0 doubt about that then or now. However, my greatest doubt about this team remains the same, they're just not good at talent evaluation and compound that by doubling down on some of their selections because they look at it from an ego standpoint. If it is mine, it must be good.

Lamb? No thank you, give me the beef!

Lamb was a mistake?
Hopefully your a better moderator than an evaluator.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Terrible opinion. And apparently a fluid one. First we never should have taken a WR at all, then we should have taken a different WR.

If anything, this year shows the team needs every top talent it can get, almost regardless of position.

 

[CouchCoach]

Too early to judge Chaison but one thing that’s a proven fact
Lamb had more impact this year than he did

No argument there and Chaisson might turn out to be a bust but that's not my point. Team building is about coming back time and time again until you do get it right.

Matt Millen was a doofus on WR's but he did get it right but it took him 3 times.

Belichick has been that way about DB's because his plan calls for him to build it back to front and while a pass rush will help a secondary that's not as relevant in today's game.

 

[Typhus]

Terrible opinion. And apparently a fluid one. First we never should have taken a WR at all, then we should have taken a different WR.

If anything, this year shows the team needs every top talent it can get, almost regardless of position.

Anytime you have the chance to draft a talent... and I said talent, not player, there is a difference,, you do it without hesitation.
Lamb will be around in this league a very long time...

 

[Future]

They chose to put the D behind that and ended up 6-10.

They were already the #2 pass offense in the league in 2019.

They ended up 6-10 because of injuries.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

No argument there and Chaisson might turn out to be a bust but that's not my point. Team building is about coming back time and time again until you do get it right.

Matt Millen was a doofus on WR's but he did get it right but it took him 3 times.

Wait, so taking three Tacos in a row would be the right move?

When you start using Matt Millen as an example of someone who got it right. it's time to reevaluate your position.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I wouldn't call then good but they have improved and you'll get the statmeisters trying to make a case that the Cowboys are a great drafting team but they are not. The only stat we need is the W-L.

The problem with some is that they judge these players against others on this team and the fact they can start for the Cowboys means little. To top this off, they make the wrong calls on which players to extend and let walk too much. Hitchens is a better LB than anyone they have and Byron Jones was their best DB, by far.

All comes back to the same issue whether it's FA or the draft, evaluation of talent and value estimation.

Have they improved or is it more along the lines of hype? Taking injury prone guys like Jaylon Smith and LVE? Taco Charlton? Conner Williams? Ignoring the Safety position for what? Over a decade?

I totally agree with you on the assessment of the Lamb pick. It was a luxury that this team didn’t need and another wasted draft pick. In fact a competent GM would have found a way to trade that pick or the player away for picks or players of need but alas we don’t have one of those in this organization.

 

[Future]

LOL
Justin Jefferson just broke Randy Moss’ rookie receiving record for a season.
Lamb wasn’t even the best WR at that point in the draft and DAL shouldn’t have even been drafting a WR. LOL.

LOL at thinking CD wouldn't have been comparable if Dak didn't get hurt.

They drafted the best player at his position to be in a starting role. You want to go get K'Lavon Chaisson, go right ahead.

 

[blueblood70]

They ended up 6-10 because of injuries.

everyone seems to gloss over that fact when trying to make themselves appear right..

Ill argue last years 8-8 team was worse season because we were relatively healthy, much more disappointing for me then this year..

 

[CouchCoach]

Lamb was a mistake?
Hopefully your a better moderator than an evaluator.

Picking a WR was a mistake, didn't matter if it was Jeudy, Ruggs or Jefferson or Lamb. It's not about Lamb, he's a good player. Great player? We shall see about that but he better learn to run better routes and not count on getting the 2nd or 3rd CB covering him. All the Lamb lovers, that are not Sooner fans, haven't seen him as the #1WR drawing the best CB without Cooper and Gallup on the field. He was also the beneficiary of an offense extremely generous to the WR position, just as it was Hollywood Brown the year before Lamb. Riley isn't all about the QB like many think, he's a run first guy and that frees up his WR's.

And there might not have been a great D player there either but a good D player on this team trumps a great WR. Would that have made a difference this season? Doubt it but whenb do they start to fix what's broken?

 

[cej757]

Defense? Pfft ... Wait until we draft Kyle Pitts

You add Pitts to this offense and you'll have the #1 offense in the league even better than Kansas city.

 

[jterrell]

I do not think Dallas can draft a WR/TE under any circumstance at 10.

But CeeDee Lamb was a slam dunk pick. He was by far and away the BPA.
Dallas did need a 3rd WR after losing Randall Cobb and Cole Beasley in back to back years in free agency. (both FA losses brought draft pick compensation)
The 3WR set is a base set for Dallas and this player is a plus starter already.

Now Dallas has that need filled and that's why they must ignore Pitts and the fine bevy of WRs available in R1 this year.

It's basically Defense or OT or bust.

And ideally they'd get a DT rated top 15 at pick 10 and call it a day.
That position has been undermanned for a while and is the hardest to fill.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Yes, it was a mistake because it was all for flash and splash while bobbing around on the ocean, it was a pick for applause.

Legit top 10 talent drops to you at 17 you take it. Winning is about having better players. Not passing on better players.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

You add Pitts to this offense and you'll have the #1 offense in the league even better than Kansas city.

that’s what they said when they drafted Lamb.

 

[phildadon86]

Yes, it was a mistake because it was all for flash and splash while bobbing around on the ocean, it was a pick for applause. It was all luxury for a team deep in needs.

The case some make is the value of Lamb at 17. Was he not a value at 16, 15, 14, 13? Why did those GM's pass on him? Because they're GM's with their jobs on the line to improve the team, not take a bow for a draft pick.

Another case is what D player was worth that pick? Chaisson? The answer is any D player that could help the worst D in the league and worst in Cowboys history. He didn't have to be a world beater, just a player they could count on to be 1 of the 11.

1 of 11. How many do they have now? If they'd used that on a D player, might they be closer than they are now? And what if he doesn't work out? Then they'd know and keep going back to the well.

I saw all of the celebrating here when they took Lamb and few asking why was he available? Partly because most GM's were trying to fill needs and partly because they didn't have him at 6th on their board.

He was the Cowboys first pick and led them in drops and was 2nd in the league in drops but his fans here will make excuses for him. And WR is the most plentiful position in the league.

This draft should be the easiest for the Cowboys, if they go D as they should have last year. Their needs are plenty and the only position they don't need with that first pick is DE.

The Lamb pick was a mistake and I had 0 doubt about that then or now. However, my greatest doubt about this team remains the same, they're just not good at talent evaluation and compound that by doubling down on some of their selections because they look at it from an ego standpoint. If it is mine, it must be good.

Lamb? No thank you, give me the beef!

So then you agree with taking Greg Ellis over Randy Moss?

 

[kevm3]

Lamb absolutely was the right pick. Who else was there on defense that would have made a difference? The real issue is the FO paying dud after free agent dud. Out of the 10 or so guys we had in free agency, Aldon Smith is the only one that remained on the team?

 

[charron]

We should all be ok with taking a talented guy at a skill position that fell in the draft. The problem for me is we should also be shopping Gallop or coop for some defensive help preferably.

 

[Batman1980]

Yes, it was a mistake because it was all for flash and splash while bobbing around on the ocean, it was a pick for applause. It was all luxury for a team deep in needs.

The case some make is the value of Lamb at 17. Was he not a value at 16, 15, 14, 13? Why did those GM's pass on him? Because they're GM's with their jobs on the line to improve the team, not take a bow for a draft pick.

Another case is what D player was worth that pick? Chaisson? The answer is any D player that could help the worst D in the league and worst in Cowboys history. He didn't have to be a world beater, just a player they could count on to be 1 of the 11.

1 of 11. How many do they have now? If they'd used that on a D player, might they be closer than they are now? And what if he doesn't work out? Then they'd know and keep going back to the well.

I saw all of the celebrating here when they took Lamb and few asking why was he available? Partly because most GM's were trying to fill needs and partly because they didn't have him at 6th on their board.

He was the Cowboys first pick and led them in drops and was 2nd in the league in drops but his fans here will make excuses for him. And WR is the most plentiful position in the league.

This draft should be the easiest for the Cowboys, if they go D as they should have last year. Their needs are plenty and the only position they don't need with that first pick is DE.

The Lamb pick was a mistake and I had 0 doubt about that then or now. However, my greatest doubt about this team remains the same, they're just not good at talent evaluation and compound that by doubling down on some of their selections because they look at it from an ego standpoint. If it is mine, it must be good.

Lamb? No thank you, give me the beef!

We already had 1 of the best tandems at WR in the NFL. Justin Jefferson was taken later and may be the better player. I would say Travon Diggs looks like the real deal but the defense and the OL still need a lot of help. So I hope at 10 we go OL or DL, perhaps S.