They were close to a nice offseason

[Ranching]

We can't get mad at them, they obviously want to do what they want to do with the players they have, so they made their beds, they have to lay in it. Because we failed to get a play maker, and if those guys we have no don't do good things for us this season, you'll possibly see us use a 1st or something to trade during the season, when we could have taken care of the need during the draft

At first, I thought, this is a pretty decent post, and then i saw who posted it.....then I thought, I wonder where he stole it from....

 

[gimmesix]

I would mostly agree. The Cowboys made some nice moves this offseason, and I dont hate the draft. What I do hate is once again they refused to do enough and still have massive holes with the run defense, questions at both tackle spots, CB, and WR....in addition to having some nice pieces but not a complete player at the RB position. We once again are putting a lot of stock into reclamation projects and late round picks to plug obvious holes that could have been addressed a month ago.

I think they believe all their cheap trades and signing former No. 1s is going to make a difference. Nevermind that the reason those former No. 1s were available was because they failed with the teams that drafted them. Doesn't mean they aren't fancier garbage than the usual players we pick up from the landfill and can't maybe contribute a little more than the bottom feeders do.

 

[Wildcat711]

At first, I thought, this is a pretty decent post, and then i saw who posted it.....then I thought, I wonder where he stole it from....

I don't get your obsession with Coog.. its not like he comes into every thread and has a crack at you.. perhaps it was just a "pretty decent post".

So he posts a lot.. big deal.. he doesn't abuse anyone.

 

[Pass2Run]

Compared to last year, it is a very nice off-season.

True, it seems nothing they have done moves the needle. And I can see why many fans think that way.
However, I can see why some think it did.

When you step back, take off the blinders, rather if you are pro or con on the team, and the FO. It really has been a decent off-season. And much to be excited about.
I mean, what else could have they done to make the naysayers, say any different. Sign some high price FA's, only to say they over paid.

Bring in HC X instead of Brian, only to say, should have got HC Y, while others say HC Z.

We got some young coaches, all with different ideas to improve the team. BS seems to be building a team with high character, which translates into team continuity. Changing the culture.

Fans will always dislike what the FO does, because it is not what they want them to do. Many fans do not take into account the entire team structure of the roster and salary cap, as we do not know the inner workings.

Do I wish thy done a few things different, yes. But I am not going to let it ruin my morning coffee.

Yeah, for one we're back to having a rotation of legit pass rushers. Like we had during our 12-5 season's. That alone counts for something. Add to that, we upgraded our RB room as well as OL, I think we've done OK thus far.

I want to see them add some more vets in FA.

Long ways to go before it's over anyway. So far, I like it.

 

[Ranching]

I don't get your obsession with Coog.. its not like he comes into every thread and has a crack at you.. perhaps it was just a "pretty decent post".

So he posts a lot.. big deal.. he doesn't abuse anyone.

Lol! Big brother is watching. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Creeper]

So many people have already said it, but it is worth repeating. If the Cowboys were serious players in free agency, then drafting BPA as they did in the first 3 rounds would be a fine strategy. But the Cowboys must find their playmakers in the draft because they do not sign top free agents. The Cowboys leave themselves no other choice but to upgrade their weaknesses in the draft. If the BPA happens to play a position of need, it works out great, but if not, then the Cowboys wind up not upgrading.

I would argue OG and DE were not the urgent needs that RB and DT are, or even WR. Waiting till the 7th round to take a DT was a bit shocking to me.

And not drafting a RB last year, then waiting until the 5th to select a role paying RB this seems like a miss.

So here we are again. Another season and we are concerned about RB and DT, again. Maybe they got lucky and the two FAs and the 7th round pick turn out to be players. Maybe Toia will be the steal of the draft. But it seems to me, SB contending teams aren't relying on so many long shots.

One recommendation I would make for this team is to stop trading away draft picks like sticks of chewing gum. Those 4th round pick are important to a team looking to build through the draft. For a team that builds through the draft, they seem to not value draft picks as much as they should.

 

[conner01]

It would be stupid to trade for sutton or picken or any of the available guys.
They just need to use the guys they have and get rid of them if they cant play good enough.
Then next draft get someone in 2nd round. Or if a real good one there, in the 1st round.

The goal this season is just to try and make playoffs, not go on a SB run.

Depends on the price. I don’t think we have a legit WR2 and that’s a problem. I wouldn’t use a top 3 rnd pick to get one. But at the right price if we could get a guy I’d be looking. Lots of teams added WR and a few have guys that in last year of deals they could get something for. Only Jerry lets guys walk to get a comp a year later. Smart teams trade them and get likely as good a pick a year sooner

 

[baltcowboy]

I think they believe all their cheap trades and signing former No. 1s is going to make a difference. Nevermind that the reason those former No. 1s were available was because they failed with the teams that drafted them. Doesn't mean they aren't fancier garbage than the usual players we pick up from the landfill and can't maybe contribute a little more than the bottom feeders do.

Former first round picks have a chance to be players. Hooker is the best example of that. Not all of them will hit but if Turner, Elam, or Murray can get on the field and make a few plays I would consider it a success. The Eagles hit a homerun with Zac Baun. Maybe the Cowboys could do the same.

 

[kskboys]

When you look at the draft in a vacuum, I have no real issues. I am a Brugler guy and I think we ended up with three of his Top 50 after three rounds. After that, it's always a crap shoot in the later rounds so maybe we hit on a few, maybe we bombed out. The draft will be largely decided by what the first three picks do and I think they are nice selections.

But when you zoom out and put the draft in the context of the entire offseason, it's hard to get excited. Putting aside the fact that we hired a guy that no one ever deemed worthy of a HC gig despite the family name and being in coaching for years, the draft highlights the shortcomings of our FA plan.

We still have needs at WR (sorry, I am not buying Mingo as a viable #2 at this point). We have a need at DT (it's a wasteland again outside of Odi). We could have used a talented back. And all of those could have been addressed in the draft but if they had been, then we would have holes at the interior OL, DL, CB, etc.

When you refuse to fill legitimate holes with players that can actually fill those holes with quality play, you get what we've gotten the last who knows how many years.

We sign reclamation projects and washed up players because they are cheap. Williams at TB? Great, he was once a high pick but has done nothing in the league. I'd rather spent the money on JK Dobbins, who yes, has an injury history but has also been far more productive than Williams. Thomas at DT? Oh, he played for Eberflus? Great. He's been mediocre and can't stop the run. Poona Ford was out there and signed a pretty reasonable deal with a small signing bonus and only $15MM guaranteed over 3 years.

Imagine pairing this draft class with a FA class that was highlighted by Ford, Dobbins and maybe even Keenan Allen to be a #2. And they absolutely could have afforded all three if they wanted.

And then to add, not taking advantage of a draft deep w/ DTs and us having a monstrous need there. Oh, well, on to 2026.

 

[kskboys]

But I have been told for years, a team can find a great RB in any round. Now a later round pick, is not a solution?
Why? Because it is Dallas, but any other team it is ok?

Yeah, and that's a myth. Starters come from rounds 1 and 2, w/ an occasional Pacheco.

And here's the dirty little secret. Need a heady football guy as GM to find them.

 

[Nova]

When you look at the draft in a vacuum, I have no real issues. I am a Brugler guy and I think we ended up with three of his Top 50 after three rounds. After that, it's always a crap shoot in the later rounds so maybe we hit on a few, maybe we bombed out. The draft will be largely decided by what the first three picks do and I think they are nice selections.

But when you zoom out and put the draft in the context of the entire offseason, it's hard to get excited. Putting aside the fact that we hired a guy that no one ever deemed worthy of a HC gig despite the family name and being in coaching for years, the draft highlights the shortcomings of our FA plan.

We still have needs at WR (sorry, I am not buying Mingo as a viable #2 at this point). We have a need at DT (it's a wasteland again outside of Odi). We could have used a talented back. And all of those could have been addressed in the draft but if they had been, then we would have holes at the interior OL, DL, CB, etc.

When you refuse to fill legitimate holes with players that can actually fill those holes with quality play, you get what we've gotten the last who knows how many years.

We sign reclamation projects and washed up players because they are cheap. Williams at TB? Great, he was once a high pick but has done nothing in the league. I'd rather spent the money on JK Dobbins, who yes, has an injury history but has also been far more productive than Williams. Thomas at DT? Oh, he played for Eberflus? Great. He's been mediocre and can't stop the run. Poona Ford was out there and signed a pretty reasonable deal with a small signing bonus and only $15MM guaranteed over 3 years.

Imagine pairing this draft class with a FA class that was highlighted by Ford, Dobbins and maybe even Keenan Allen to be a #2. And they absolutely could have afforded all three if they wanted.

Whiffing on Poona Ford was unforgivable.

He's a difficult matchup for most interior OL and has a lot of upside. He has a ridiculously reasonable contract, and it's a massive need for us.

Was he even on the FO's radar?

 

[kskboys]

So many people have already said it, but it is worth repeating. If the Cowboys were serious players in free agency, then drafting BPA as they did in the first 3 rounds would be a fine strategy. But the Cowboys must find their playmakers in the draft because they do not sign top free agents. The Cowboys leave themselves no other choice but to upgrade their weaknesses in the draft. If the BPA happens to play a position of need, it works out great, but if not, then the Cowboys wind up not upgrading.

I would argue OG and DE were not the urgent needs that RB and DT are, or even WR. Waiting till the 7th round to take a DT was a bit shocking to me.

And not drafting a RB last year, then waiting until the 5th to select a role paying RB this seems like a miss.

So here we are again. Another season and we are concerned about RB and DT, again. Maybe they got lucky and the two FAs and the 7th round pick turn out to be players. Maybe Toia will be the steal of the draft. But it seems to me, SB contending teams aren't relying on so many long shots.

One recommendation I would make for this team is to stop trading away draft picks like sticks of chewing gum. Those 4th round pick are important to a team looking to build through the draft. For a team that builds through the draft, they seem to not value draft picks as much as they should.

Hampton and Grant were both rated higher than Booker.

We don't even draft BPA, not sure anyone knows our draft strategy. Yeah, like we actually have one!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Whiffing on Poona Ford was unforgivable.

He's a difficult matchup for most interior OL and has a lot of upside. He has a ridiculously reasonable contract, and it's a massive need for us.

Was he even on the FO's radar?

Does Jerry seriously not even notice the monstrous difference Hankins made on our D?

 

[kskboys]

I don't get your obsession with Coog.. its not like he comes into every thread and has a crack at you.. perhaps it was just a "pretty decent post".

So he posts a lot.. big deal.. he doesn't abuse anyone.

Beyond strange.

Everyone has mannerisms in how they post. Coogles is a great guy.

 

[Nova]

Does Jerry seriously not even notice the monstrous difference Hankins made on our D?

Hankins was a good trade pick-up. Outside of age, I'm not sure why he isn't still here.

I'm annoyed we didn't grab him for 3YR/30M in 2017 like the Colts did.

He used to give Frederick fits.

 

[fivetwos]

Hampton and Grant were both rated higher than Booker.

We don't even draft BPA, not sure anyone knows our draft strategy. Yeah, like we actually have one!!!!

It’s BPA based on which position the two unqualified guys think they need the most lol.

I’m not going to argue not taking a RB at 12, and they don’t value DT…this we certainly know.

But when they do those redraft things…a year, two years etc down the road….I’d wager plenty Hampton will be top five, but they really aren’t in a spot to go taking a RB high just now.

I guess they are trying to get back to the 2016 model, which they should have done years ago….but wanted it to be about Daks arm. It’s just a mess and any possible plan never seems to add up.

 

[jazzcat22]

Whiffing on Poona Ford was unforgivable.

He's a difficult matchup for most interior OL and has a lot of upside. He has a ridiculously reasonable contract, and it's a massive need for us.

Was he even on the FO's radar?

Then why was he available? Mickey was to know.

 

[Sydla]

Whiffing on Poona Ford was unforgivable.

He's a difficult matchup for most interior OL and has a lot of upside. He has a ridiculously reasonable contract, and it's a massive need for us.

Was he even on the FO's radar?

I suspect not because they knew he'd cost more than they would want to pay given their bottom feeding ways.

But I agree, it was a big whiff. You add him and he starts next to Osa, Mazi slides into a backup role and suddenly you have the makings of a decent rotation there and your run D definitely gets better. Instead they will sell us on their 7th round rookie being part of the solution (and for what it's worth, I like Toia).

 

[BrassCowboy]

So you agree with me. Blue isn't an every down back.

PS - The problem with your Newhouse Dorsett comparison is neither Blue or Mafah come close to projecting to be the type of impactful back Dorsett was. Mafah might just end up as a practice squad guy.

Yeah I think what he is trying to say is we will have a run by committee approach, so you don't need that every down bruiser style, which is totally fine
What Blue is good for is what he is best at, that is speed, something this team has not had in like forever. Yeah he is not a Jeanty or Hampton don't get me wrong, besides the fact those guys are more bruiser do-it-all-yourself RBs, but he don't need to be.
He can do more than just run the ball, he can help block, he can catch and good route runner will go good with a power back like Javonte/Mafah.