Things I learned about the Cowboys from Romo

TwentyOne

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A lot of these I'm sure we already knew, but it was cool to see it confirmed by him...

1) Garrett is responsible for the Cowboys playing very conservative when backed up in their own 20. (Though it should be noted that we took a shot down field on 3rd and long backed up right after Romo said this)

Anything else I missed?

We were agressive and threw a pass for a first down.

The thing you missed is that Romo talks alot and not everything should be taken as the undeniable truth.
To be much more clear: Just because Romo views Garrett as a conservative coach doesnt mean he really is.

Romo as a commentator talks alot about how he would defend this or that and he seems to be very confident about his views.
The thing you missed: A big confidence doesnt mean you know alot or are right.

The way Romo shows up in these commentary sessions just proofs alot more to my why i didnt like him as a player. He seems like a ADHS patient who has alot of energy and his head is twisting because of the many influences he feels. But this all hinders him to get a grip of the fundamentel things he has to understand.
 

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You have to be a supreme motivator and disciplinarian to win with this approach. Jason falls short. He would have never been able to coach Charles haley

And being able to coach Haley is the criteria that makes you a good coach ?
 

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I disagree with a lot of the way the Romo comments are being twisted as far as Garrett and his coaching philosophy goes here, but don't really want to get into that tired debate again. I will say that it sounded to me like Tony went into the week looking for an opportunity to make the comment he made about Jason, and I thought it was interesting that what he chose to bring up was not insulting, but it did have a loaded implication. There's something to the idea that those two had a falling out of sorts on Tony's way out the door.

Also, when I heard that comment, I thought to myself, "I bet we hear Tony go off on Linehan's creativity or play calling later in the broadcast." I was wrong, he didn't really do that beyond praising a really good play call, but it occurred to me that he came in intending to make a point about Garrett and team culture v. Linehan and X's and O's.

In any event, it was really cool to hear Tony's take on what Dallas does philosophically. I hope to hear him do more Cowboys games down the road the next few years.

Yeah it was interesting. I dont know if its a falling out neccessarily or maybe Tony simply expected Garrett to be more vocal about bringing him back in last season rather than handing the keys to Dak. Of coarse Im speculating but you know it was hard for Tony. He handled it with class, but it still had to hurt. I personally knew we couldn't pull Dak but I will never feel comfortable with how Tony left. Anything less than a superbowl just flat sucks. I wanted him to win one more than any other Cowboy. I wanted to shove it in the faces of his critics. Oh well, thats football.
 

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And being able to coach Haley is the criteria that makes you a good coach ?
To win the way Jason is TRYING to win...you have to be able to coach difficult personalities. Greg Hardy would have NEVER owned the Cowboys lockeroom if Jimmy was the coach. Jimmy would have pushed the right buttons to get the 15 sacks out of Hardy.

Jason is a college coach. You can not have 53 "right kind of guys" and win the big one. Jimmy was comfortable with kids from all backgrounds...and he made it work.
 

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A lot of these I'm sure we already knew, but it was cool to see it confirmed by him...

1) Garrett is responsible for the Cowboys playing very conservative when backed up in their own 20. (Though it should be noted that we took a shot down field on 3rd and long backed up right after Romo said this)

2) Romo really respects T-Will's run blocking and his ability to run after the catch.

3) Romo feels Dez is one of the absolute best in being able to high point a ball and come down to it, and they practiced it together after practice was over. This is backed up by Dez's ridiculous red zone performance over the years, and the way he declined with Dak... Romo and Dez practiced it together for years.

4) Right after Dez left the game, Romo started talking about how that would impact the run game because the Chiefs could play more man coverage.

5) Romo confirmed that the Cowboys' defensive philosophy is to give up smaller gains and take away the big play.

6) Lawrence was really limited by his back issues last year, as Romo mentioned once. He also said that Tyron has been limited by back issues for 2 years now.

7) He mentioned how the Cowboys love running the WR screen to Beasely when they need to kill time but don't want to run into a stacked front. Then they actually did just that... though they actually ran it with T-Will instead, but the concept was there).

Anything else I missed?
Miles Austin best WR he played with.
 

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Jason knows the game

You don't like the talent the Cowboys have acquired over the last 5 to 7 years?

And Jimmy inherited great talent and was gift wrapped one of the all time great QB prospects(Aikman)

I think the most underappreciated thing about Jason has been his ability to motivate his team.If he didn't, he would've been gone years ago. Wade Phillips, 2010.
I didn't say anything about Jason.

Talent acquisition is probably more Will McClay and his scouting department than anyone else. I think he may have drafted players that fit the philosophy of Garrett, but that philosophy isn't unique to him.
 
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I think the most underappreciated thing about Jason has been his ability to motivate his team.If he didn't, he would've been gone years ago. Wade Phillips, 2010.

It's not under appreciated if it's literally the reason he has his job, considering he's not leading the offense, defense or talent acquisition. I'd say Jerry appreciates it plenty and has paid him millions to prove it.
 
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It's not under appreciated if it's literally the reason he has his job, considering he's not leading the offense, defense or talent acquisition. I'd say Jerry appreciates it plenty and has paid him millions to prove it.
You guys

I wouldn't totally dismiss his involvement in personnel
 

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You guys

I wouldn't totally dismiss his involvement in personnel

Sigh, I'm not dismissing it. He's the head coach of the team, he doesn't just sit in a tomb until they wheel him out for game day.

A lot of people are trying to make it seem like I'm saying Garrett sucks. I don't think he sucks, I think he's learning on the job and it's cost us.

There are no shortcuts to experience, so it's no wonder he may (if your imaginations will allow) not be as good a coach as someone that coached for 20 years before landing a job in the NFL.

He's our coach so I support him, but I'm not going to pretend he's some football guru because he backed up Aikman and was a quarterbacks coach to Jay Fiedler.
 

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LOL

Jimmy Johnson employed EXACTLY the same philosophy. Didn't do any schematics at all. Just built a culture and acquired talent to suit it.

Same for Pete Carroll, John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, etc, and countless coaches from the past.

:hammer:

Very well said, for coaches like Garrett its about hiring the right staff around him and building a culture of winning (which includes finding the right players). This is why the other coaches u mentioned above could never work out here. Those guys need a larger say in FO descisions. Perhaps that’s Garrett’s flaw. He has an egotistic owner and a bunch of “football guys” (McCray and Stephen) making allot of those decisions for him. Would Garrett have drafted Jaylon or Randy if he had more say so?
 

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:laugh: at all the folks that think the Red Dolt or his style is anything like Jimmy. Jimmy coached for 24 years at all levels of football (including high school) before he came to the Cowboys and he won at every level he coached. He had a philosophy and drafted players who fit his philosophy. With the exception of David Shula whom he hired as a favor to Don Shula, Jimmy brought coaches whom he trusted to implement his philosophy. When David Shula didn't work out, Jimmy canned him. Red Dolt was stripped of his play calling duties and isn't a fraction of the coach that Johnson was. Garrett's not fit to clean the stains on Jimmy's undershorts.
 

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:laugh: at all the folks that think the Red Dolt or his style is anything like Jimmy. Jimmy coached for 24 years at all levels of football (including high school) before he came to the Cowboys and he won at every level he coached. He had a philosophy and drafted players who fit his philosophy. With the exception of David Shula whom he hired as a favor to Don Shula, Jimmy brought coaches whom he trusted to implement his philosophy. When David Shula didn't work out, Jimmy canned him. Red Dolt was stripped of his play calling duties and isn't a fraction of the coach that Johnson was. Garrett's not fit to clean the stains on Jimmy's undershorts.

I agree with this assessment as well. I truly believe Garrett and the things he is incapable of doing is the main obstacle holding this team back from reaching the next level. As you mentioned, I can’t see how any coach can have a successful run with a team when his play calling duties were taken away. Saying that, Garret’s philosophy and what he is trying to do is simalir to Jimmy. I’m sure he learned allot from him and attempts to instill the same policies and attempts to create the same culture that was there when he was Aikman’s backup.
 

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You have to be a supreme motivator and disciplinarian to win with this approach. Jason falls short. He would have never been able to coach Charles haley
If you've read the stories about Haley, I'm not sure how much "coaching" was involved with Haley.

Some of the most distrubing things I've ever read in my life.
 

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The stuff he said about Garrett just confirmed what we all suspected. Jason doesn't have much to do with the actual football, his job is to motivate players that need motivation.

Just one time I'd like to see Garrett rip into a player. I bet he can't.:rolleyes:
 
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