Think there's any possible way the Cowboys could trade up for Matt Leinart next year?

[TruBlueCowboy]

Me too. I can't help but think we need to spend a top pick on an OL next draft.

Even with all those high draft picks Parcells dished out for linemen, 6th rounder Rob Petitti looks like our most promising olineman so far in the Parcells draft era. Hopefully, Parcells does better with Lacewell out of the picture.

 

[RoysAHitta]

sooner or later we are going to have to spend a high round pick on a young qb. theres just no way around it. tom brady was a rare find we can't expect that out of any scouting department. these baseball project qb's aren't working out. everyone keeps saying "what if" larry allen, marco rivera, or blah blah goes down? but "what if" drew bledsoe goes down? our season is tanked. i dont see romo or henson as starting nfl qbs.

look at what we spend 2nd rounders on anyway? jacob rogers? i dont know about the asking price for the 1st overall pick, but i wouldnt put it out of question. we need a good young qb probably worse than any other team in the nfl and leinhart looks to fit the part.

 

[jackrussell]

Looking at some of the teams in the NFL that may challenge for that #1 draft pick.... Chicago (supposedly happy with Orton), Washington (already drafted their future QB), San Fran (already drafted), Cleveland (that's the team to watch out for!),

Actually TB, I believe Cleveland would be the ideal team to have that #1 position. The Browns will be turned over to Charlie Frye, sooner rather than later. This area is enamored with him, and his limited preseason play and his training camp has seemingly impressed Romeo. (I'd have loved Dallas taking him at some point)

The Browns have so many needs that trading for multiple picks seems only natural, as they're hurting along both lines.

Not having the inside scoop on Henson(and I don't personally need to see the guy play, if BP doesn't think he has it, well, good enough for me), I think it'd be great to move up and take Leinart, and not look back. I believe his probability to succeed in the NFL is very high, and don't have the QB taken high could be a bust fear.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

sooner or later we are going to have to spend a high round pick on a young qb. theres just no way around it. tom brady was a rare find we can't expect that out of any scouting department. these baseball project qb's aren't working out. everyone keeps saying "what if" larry allen, marco rivera, or blah blah goes down? but "what if" drew bledsoe goes down? our season is tanked. i dont see romo or henson as starting nfl qbs.

look at what we spend 2nd rounders on anyway? jacob rogers? i dont know about the asking price for the 1st overall pick, but i wouldnt put it out of question. we need a good young qb probably worse than any other team in the nfl and leinhart looks to fit the part.

Hmm. I thought we did make a committment to a young QB?

You may not "see" Henson or Romo as starting NFL QB's but someone must or they wouldn't be on the roster. Like Parcells just said, "If they can't play they shouldn't be on the team."

I would have to trust the coaching staff and front office on this one.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I believe his probability to succeed in the NFL is very high, and don't have the QB taken high could be a bust fear.

You may not have that fear but I do. Gutting the next draft and maybe the one after for one player could set this franchise back for years and years.

 

[Cbz40]

I agree Michael......I really think we are committed to the QB's we have on the roster.

I also think it would be foolish to trade multiple draft picks for one player. I still have nightmares about the Gallowaste deal. That deal did set our franchise back a few years and no one will convince me otherwise.

 

[RoysAHitta]

whats another year or two, it's been ten years and we still dont have a good qb?

 

[Cbz40]

I really don't think we know that yet........just my oponion.

 

[scottsp]

First off, I believe Matt Leinart to be the mother lode of quarterbacking prospects. He, IMO, is an elite prospect that comes along once every five years. At similar stages of their careers at USC, I would grade Leinart out higher than his predecessor, Carson Palmer. And he's pretty darn good.

As much as I would absolutely love the Cowboys get hold of this kid, it ain't happening. Unless we somehow bumble our way through the rest of the 2005 season, winning just one more game along the way. If not, we would never get a whiff of this young man.

The New York Giants wanted Eli Manning when he came out in 2004. I mean, they wanted him. The price they ultimately paid to get their grubby paws on Elisha? The number four overall pick, another third along with New York's 2005 first and fifth round selections.

Now don't get me wrong, I think Eli Manning has a chance to be a very good NFL quarterback, even worthy of the top pick. But in the same class of Matt Leinart? In my rather amateur opinion as an evaluator of NFL talent, I'd say...no way.

The USC senior has been duly impressive since taking over for Carson Palmer. The Trojans are 27-1 with Leinart as their starter. And his personal numbers are utterly ridiculous.

The numbers on Matt Leinart
2003 232 368 3229 63.0 8.77 73 35 9 14 112.7
2004 269 412 3322 65.3 8.06 69 33 6 24 110.7
2005 36 48 713 75.0 14.85 67 7 1 2 147.6

It's pure joy watching Matt Leinart toss the pill around. He's got a rifle left arm with amazing touch on the ball. His reads are on point and his throws on time. He's about as pro ready as they come at this stage. But we will never get a shot at him.

The asking price to move up to number one in 2006 will be astronomical. Far more than what the Giants ever thought about dealing for the rights to Manning. Besides, I doubt a team would move aside and deal Leinart away. If San Francisco finds themselves in such a position, it's possible I guess. I wouldn't.

But who am I?

 

[scottsp]

You may not have that fear but I do. Gutting the next draft and maybe the one after for one player could set this franchise back for years and years.

Absolutely. And that's basically what we'd have to do. For where we are currently and seem to be heading, it prolly isn't a good fit for us. I would not deal away that much for this kid although I think the world of him.

I'd leave that to the Browns, Titans, etc.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

First off, I believe Matt Leinart to be the mother lode of quarterbacking prospects. He, IMO, is an elite prospect that comes along once every five years. At similar stages of their careers at USC, I would grade Leinart out higher than his predecessor, Carson Palmer. And he's pretty darn good.

As much as I would absolutely love the Cowboys get hold of this kid, it ain't happening. Unless we somehow bumble our way through the rest of the 2005 season, winning just one more game along the way. If not, we would never get a whiff of this young man.

The New York Giants wanted Eli Manning when he came out in 2004. I mean, they wanted him. The price they ultimately paid to get their grubby paws on Elisha? The number four overall pick, another third along with New York's 2005 first and fifth round selections.

Now don't get me wrong, I think Eli Manning has a chance to be a very good NFL quarterback, even worthy of the top pick. But in the same class of Matt Leinart? In my rather amateur opinion as an evaluator of NFL talent, I'd say...no way.

The USC senior has been duly impressive since taking over for Carson Palmer. The Trojans are 27-1 with Leinart as their starter. And his personal numbers are utterly ridiculous.

The numbers on Matt Leinart
2003 232 368 3229 63.0 8.77 73 35 9 14 112.7
2004 269 412 3322 65.3 8.06 69 33 6 24 110.7
2005 36 48 713 75.0 14.85 67 7 1 2 147.6

It's pure joy watching Matt Leinart toss the pill around. He's got a rifle left arm with amazing touch on the ball. His reads are on point and his throws on time. He's about as pro ready as they come at this stage. But we will never get a shot at him.

The asking price to move up to number one in 2006 will be astronomical. Far more than what the Giants ever thought about dealing for the rights to Manning. Besides, I doubt a team would move aside and deal Leinart away. If San Francisco finds themselves in such a position, it's possible I guess. I wouldn't.

But who am I?

Good stuff Scott. If only we had that Buffalo pick this year. :tantrum:

 

[jterrell]

We are not even in consideration for Lienart.

There is zero way we coudl trade up for him even if we wanted to.
Whoever ends up with that pick knows Lienart is the top selection and there is no close 2nd. They might trade down a few spots for a kings ransom but any team with more than 6 wins can forget about it. And this Dallas team has 10 win talent.

 

[PaEagleHater]

One word, WHY? too much of a gamble. How good does everybody think Leinert would be if he wouldn't be at USC?

 

[dargonking999]

I'm assuming the Cowboys are going to make the Playoffs or at least come close this year. So we'd have to give up a lot.

I know it's against inferior competition so far, but he is just tearing it up this year.... again. Gotta believe that Leinart is about as close to a Troy Aikman type QB (consensus #1 pick) the Cowboys will see for a while.

Looking at some of the teams in the NFL that may challenge for that #1 draft pick.... Chicago (supposedly happy with Orton), Washington (already drafted their future QB), San Fran (already drafted), Cleveland (that's the team to watch out for!), Tennesse (Volek is the future although having the USC OC probably changes everything)...... not a lot of teams that need QBs in some of the more obvious teams that may end up 4-12. It would be a team like Denver or the Cards, that could tank at anytime, that we'd have to watch out for. Miami would definitely be another one to watch out for too, although they have gotten off to at least one win so far. :

Do you think the asking price would be too much? Do you think this team is getting to the point where it has enough depth that it can gamble like this with its draft picks? I'm so fed up with the baseball player projects, I'm ready for the Cowboys to blow it all on a bonafide high first rounder type at the position. Dallas could even sit him for a year via Carson Palmer or Daunte Culpepper style if Bledsoe proves he can hack it the whole year.

No, i'd rather them trade up to a top 15 and get VInce young ratherthan number 1 to get Matt, to much we have to give up for him

 

[NickZepp]

I don't think Leinart will equate to the NFL like he does college. He has a good deep ball but not great and is pretty accurate but I'm not sure if he'll be as good in the speed of the NFL game. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think we may draft more to help the depth at OLine and DLine anyway. Especially in the enterrior of both. Or another DB wouldn't hurt.

 

[The30YardSlant]

349 passing yards
5 TDs
100 rushing yards
1 TD
No turnovers

The man is faster than Mike Vick (yes, he is faster than Mike Vick) and has an NFL arm.

 

[scottsp]

Pass. And I don't mean throw.

 

[Cbz40]

349 passing yards
5 TDs
100 rushing yards
1 TD
No turnovers

The man is faster than Mike Vick (yes, he is faster than Mike Vick) and has an NFL arm.

I would rather have Young but I would take Lienart over both of them.

 

[CowboyManDan]

No question that I'd love to get Leinart. But what would we have to give up to get him? Probably a lot. I don't think we'll even try. But I hope we do. He's the type of QB that can solidify that position for many years and someone you can continue to build around.

 

[Big Country]

Dallas could even sit him for a year via Carson Palmer or Daunte Culpepper style if Bledsoe proves he can hack it the whole year.

Ever hear of Drew Henson... ? What do you think we're doing with him? Sitting Him... Drew H didn't have to come in and automatically be a Roger Staubach, or Troy Aikman... Hell Delhomme sat for four years didn't he... Todd Bouman played some good minutes in Cleveland I think, maybe Minnesota... now he's second string in NO... Geez I don't want a QB yet people... You ready to cast away Bledsoe after he threw 3 TDs last week... Remember NFC offensive player of the week???