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No it's not. I said 'this year.' And I didn't say anything at all about picks from the 3rd or 4th rounds.

No it's not. I said 'this year.' And I didn't say anything at all about picks from the 3rd or 4th rounds.
No it's not. I said 'this year.' And I didn't say anything at all about picks from the 3rd or 4th rounds.
Your statement premised on wasted picks...Elliott?
And yes, the 2nd pick was on who can be a premier linebacker...but onto the original premise of waste, a defensive tackle and defensive end were both added next.
I know who we took in the later rounds. My point was we missed the opportunity to help the defense in the first, and we missed the opportunity to help the defense his year in the second. So that no matter how improved that unit may not may not be this season, it could have been better.
You betting a discussion on THAT? How about if there are less than 3 completions of over 20 meters charged to Morris Claiborne...that's my bet. Anything over that number, is YOUR bet. The loser has to at the conclusion of the regular season, state in a thread on site, that he was an idiot for doubting the other's statement.
Let's go...or get real.
Lol I'm not betting because I hope I am wrong and he miraculously stops playing stupid football. I just doubt he will change. Get mad at him, not me
I know who we took in the later rounds. My point was we missed the opportunity to help the defense in the first, and we missed the opportunity to help the defense his year in the second. So that no matter how improved that unit may not may not be this season, it could have been better.
I know who we took in the later rounds. My point was we missed the opportunity to help the defense in the first, and we missed the opportunity to help the defense his year in the second. So that no matter how improved that unit may not may not be this season, it could have been better.
Seeing what happened with Ramsey and with Bosa off the board I'm not sure what opportunity with value we had on defense in the first. Trade down I guess?
Over Jaylon, I see your point with a DB or LB, not Ragland, there in the second. I don't know enough about neuromuscular regeneration to be overly confident with Smith.
If our best CB, Scandrick,and our best overall defender, Lee, can both stay healthy it will be very big.
I am also excited that our two weakest positions over the last few years, FS and the 1-tech have both been upgraded with potentially above average players.
Besides staying healthy, I think the thing that would help us the most is if one of our young RDEs, Mayowa, Tapper, or Gregory can develop into a top-notch pass rusher that demands double teams.
I find it hilarious how many people are talking about just how bad our defense is, definitely laughable.
The prior year the Panthers made the playoffs with a losing record. They had the 21st ranked defense in the NFL. They had Greg Hardy, but he was suspended for the entire year and they did not re-sign him.
They had the 19th ranked offense in the league.
The next year they were the 1st ranked offense in the league and the 6th ranked defense in the league.
Are there a lot of IFs on this defense? Absolutely, there are, but people are ignoring the investments we've made that have yet to bear fruit.
Second year defensive players - Randy Gregory, Byron Jones. Two players with first round grades and while Randy Gregory is suspended for 4 games, I believe once he returns he will have an impact. I think Jones at safety full time will have a large impact.
Returning players - Orlando Scandrick. I think a couple years ago Scandrick was one of our best players on defense. Probably the second best player on defense behind Sean Lee at the time. His return seriously bolsters the secondary.
I fully expect this defense to look different this year especially given the position the offense will put it in. Despite going 4-12, that defense was ranked 16th in the NFL in points... Certainly not as bad as people would suggest, but that is the narrative people are running with.
The only thing that is hilarious is your unfounded faith in this defense. It has no grounds what so ever. Stop mucking up the board with this kind of nonsense. Maybe we should make a board for overzealous homer rants.
Claiborne playing for a new contract could be a huge.
You don't know that at all. Maliek Collins and Charles Tapper could end up being world-beaters better than anybody selected ahead of them.
This defense could come back better with the addition of Orlando Scandrick from injury than it was last year too, which would put us squarely in the top 10 of defenses.
The absolutist view of a total unknown like the draft is flat out terrible. You're a seasoned poster and fan, c'mon, man.
I don't need to keep repeating myself, and the point I'm making ought to be self evident. We had a chance to address the defense for next season further with the 4th pick overall and the 34th pick overall. We didn't, and I think that was a mistake because it's been the lack of defensive talent that's kept us from really contending for years now. We need impact players on that side of the ball, and those are a lot tougher to find from the third round down.
You can repeat yourself until you're blue in the face. Your myopic view doesn't excuse the lack of seeing the big picture or the complete landscape of the team and the league in general when it comes to trying to build a team that can compete long term.
There is absolutely no guarantee that your idea of "addressing the defense" with the first two picks would work out any better than what transpired thus far this offseason.
That's really the argument you're going to stick with, huh? That devoting more and more valuable resources to the defense doesn't guarantee that it would be better? It's not myopic to see what gets us beat and to want to improve it so it doesn't happen. It's myopic to not see it in the first place because you're too busy addressing the offense and just hoping the hodgepodge of DLs we've brought in is going to come together. Not to mention the question of what we're going to do in the secondary next season when Church, Wilcox, Carr, and Claiborne might all need to be replaced in the same offseason.
They played twice in the regular season under a scheduling system that had last place teams in the 5 divisions of each conference play a home and home series. Out of curiosity, I had to go look that up...I had completely forgotten about the old scheduling system.It's surprising to me how many people think it was horrible in 2015.
I gotta question: Why did the Cowboys play Tampa Bay 2 times in 1990?
The defense improved up front, with Benson Mayowa, and Cedric Thornton in free agency. In the draft, the Cowboys added Charles Tapper and Maliek Collins. Happy or not, that is a direction that fully has potential to be developed up. The defensive interior has been improved inside, and with Gregory/Lawrence coming back after the start of the season, the whole box area has been elevated of the past three seasons...and largely through the draft.
Right now, a linebacker group, (in the future), of Sean Lee, Rolando McClain, and Jaylon Smith - definitely has the potential of being one of the very best linebacker groups in the NFL.
Naw, I'm not going to be crying over adding the likes of Zeke Elliott for the nest eight seasons, up front...at all.