This is how injury prone Romo is

[DFWJC]

That clavicle rumor is folklore.

It broke because of the 600-700 lbs of direct longitudinal force suddenly applied while perpendicular to the ground. Healing that in bayonet apposition takes longer than 8 weeks to survive a similar hit, which he immediately sustained upon his return.

It's fine now because of the passage of time; the AC surgery allows for some movement during compression, and would help any clavicle survive similar trauma.

So Tony was lying. He always did seem like a liar to me. Filthy scumbag that he is.

j/k

I'll assume he was misinformed.

 

[jazzcat22]

So Tony was lying. He always did seem like a liar to me. Filthy scumbag that he is.

j/k

I'll assume he was misinformed.

Well, guess he needs to stop being fat then, that will heal the scumbag liar............joking y'all....

 

[rynochop]

And throw the damn ball away...

However, a lot of times when I'm yelling throw the damn ball away, it turns into a touchdown

 

[Doomsday101]

And throw the damn ball away...

I agree. I think there are times Romo tries to get more out of a play than is there and will buy time and hold the ball to the very last second and leaves himself open to some big shots.

 

[Idgit]

How can you not worry about a bone he has broken THREE TIMES now?

Because it's not a chronic condition. Other than the third time he went out there before it was fully healed, he's never had an elevated risk of a broken clavicle. And he doesn't now.

 

[Stash]

Because it's not a chronic condition. Other than the third time he went out there before it was fully healed, he's never had an elevated risk of a broken clavicle. And he doesn't now.

I think you're mistaken in this case.

chron·ic
ˈkränik/
adjective
adjective: chronic

1. (of an illness) ]persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.
   "chronic bronchitis"
   synonyms: persistent, long-standing, long-term; More
   incurable;
   immedicable
   "a chronic illness"
   antonyms: acute
   • (of a person) having an illness persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.
     "a chronic asthmatic"
     
     
     Three times constitutes chronic.

 

[Idgit]

I think you're mistaken in this case.

chron·ic
ˈkränik/
adjective
adjective: chronic

1. (of an illness) ]persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.
   "chronic bronchitis"
   synonyms: persistent, long-standing, long-term; More
   incurable;
   immedicable
   "a chronic illness"
   antonyms: acute
   • (of a person) having an illness persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.
     "a chronic asthmatic"
     
     
     Three times constitutes chronic.

I don't think I am. It was two isolated breaks, five (?) years apart. Two hits that would have broken any collarbone in the league.

Sure, if he gets another hit like those, his collarbone will break again. That puts him in the same category as every other QB who takes snaps in the league. There's no point worrying about odds that affect everybody equally.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

When you compare him to other vet QBs, that's still a lot of games missed. You got admit you cringe a little every single time he's hit now b/c of the risk of re-injuring previous injuries.

Not really, Ben has missed 20. Other QB's have missed 10-15 over their careers.

 

[Stash]

I don't think I am. It was two isolated breaks, five (?) years apart. Two hits that would have broken any collarbone in the league.

Hypothetical. The fact is that they broke Romo's collarbone. Not once, not twice, but three times. That's recurring, that's chronic, and that a clear pattern. That happened.

Sure, if he gets another hit like those, his collarbone will break again. That puts him in the same category as every other QB who takes snaps in the league. There's no point worrying about odds that affect everybody equally.

There's less point in trying to cover one's eyes to the facts in an effort to not worry about the future.

 

[Diehardblues]

So , breaking his collarbone doesn't make Romo more likely if he sustains a similar hit to break it again any more than a QB whose never had it broken?

Really??

 

[CowboyRoy]

People keep talking about all these games Romo has missed over his career,
even the idiots on ESPN, the NFL Network, reporters etc do they not research their **** before they open their mouths? 27 games as a 10yr starter, is that correct?

Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2015 Dallas Cowboys 4 121 83 68.6 30.2 884 7.3 221.0 5 4.1 7 5.8 39 7 0 6 35 79.4

2014 Dallas Cowboys 15 435 304 69.9 29.0 3,705 8.5 247.0 34 7.8 9 2.1 68T 49 10 29 215 113.2

2013 Dallas Cowboys 15 535 342 63.9 35.7 3,828 7.2 255.2 31 5.8 10 1.9 82T 44 7 35 272 96.7

2012 Dallas Cowboys 16 648 425 65.6 40.5 4,903 7.6 306.4 28 4.3 19 2.9 85T 54 9 36 263 90.5

2011 Dallas Cowboys 16 522 346 66.3 32.6 4,184 8.0 261.5 31 5.9 10 1.9 77 56 11 36 227 102.5

2010 Dallas Cowboys 6 213 148 69.5 35.5 1,605 7.5 267.5 11 5.2 7 3.3 69T 21 2 7 41 94.9

2009 Dallas Cowboys 16 550 347 63.1 34.4 4,483 8.2 280.2 26 4.7 9 1.6 80T 61 17 34 196 97.6

2008 Dallas Cowboys 13 450 276 61.3 34.6 3,448 7.7 265.2 26 5.8 14 3.1 75T 48 11 20 123 91.4

2007 Dallas Cowboys 16 520 335 64.4 32.5 4,211 8.1 263.2 36 6.9 19 3.7 59T 55 11 24 176 97.4

2006 Dallas Cowboys 16 337 220 65.3 21.1 2,903 8.6 181.4 19 5.6 13 3.9 56T 42 9 21 124 95.1

Romo is old and brittle now. There is absolutely no debate what so ever. And its not like the guy is a physical specimen as it is. That doesnt mean he cant play 16 games in a season. Its just not likely anymore. And its not all about playing in the game. Its about being 100% or being as effective as you could be otherwise.

 

[Idgit]

Hypothetical. The fact is that they broke Romo's collarbone. Not once, not twice, but three times. That's recurring, that's chronic, and that a clear pattern. That happened.

There's less point in trying to cover one's eyes to the facts in an effort to not worry about the future.

He's broken it twice, rebroke it once, in two isolated incidents. It's not a chronic condition.

Hey, if you come across anything that suggests a fully-healed clavicle is at an elevated risk of re-injury, I'm happy to hear it. I've looked for it briefly and haven't found anything, but I'll happily change my opinion in the light of an actual reason to do so.

Until then, I'm not worrying about our QB bearing the same risk as everybody else.

 

[aikemirv]

How do you know this?

What part? that a 300lb lineman landing on him could very easily break his collarbone again, or that they will be targeting him?

I think both of them are common sense. You can break a collarbone landing on your shoulder incorrectly.

 

[RS12]

This is how injury prone Romo is

I believe the politically correct term is brittle and that will happen with age and hits.

 

[DFWJC]

If Romo can give us a year or two of anything close to 2014, then everyone should be thrilled.
I mean, come on:
Led league in QB rating in regular season
Led league in QB rating in playoffs
Led league in completion percentage
Led league in 3rd down conversion rate

Truly outstanding stuff.

 

[Stash]

He's broken it twice, rebroke it once, in two isolated incidents. It's not a chronic condition.

It meets the requirements of the definition of "chronic", from a dictionary that deals in facts, and not a fan who doesn't like the interpretation.

Hey, if you come across anything that suggests a fully-healed clavicle is at an elevated risk of re-injury, I'm happy to hear it. I've looked for it briefly and haven't found anything, but I'll happily change my opinion in the light of an actual reason to do so.

I'm not asking you to change your opinion, only to not try to change anyone else's. Or telling anyone else that "chronic" doesn't apply when it does.

Until then, I'm. It worrying about our QB bearing the same risk as everybody else.

Feel free to do that - for yourself. And the rest of us will judge accordingly as well.

 

[Jstopper]

It meets the requirements of the definition of "chronic", from a dictionary that deals in facts, and not a fan who doesn't like the interpretation.



I'm not asking you to change your opinion, only to not try to change anyone else's. Or telling anyone else that "chronic" doesn't apply when it does.



Feel free to do that - for yourself. And the rest of us will judge accordingly as well.

The first break was in 2010 the 2nd in 2016. That's 6 years in between breaks. If you think that classifies as chronic then fine. He never healed from his 2nd break, a collarbone cannot fully heal in 8 weeks, so of course the rebreak happened as he was never fully healed. Its been 9 months since he broke it last and he had successful surgery so it's another complete heal like how it did after 2010. So we're looking at 2 actual breaks over a 6 year period. That doesn't constitute injury prone, and should be no reason for worry in the future

 

[Stash]

The first break was in 2010 the 2nd in 2016. That's 6 years in between breaks. If you think that classifies as chronic then fine.

It's not a matter of what I think, or what you think, or what anyone else thinks. It's been broken three times, that's defined as a recurring injury, which qualifies it as chronic. People can think whatever they want, but those are the facts.

He never healed from his 2nd break, a collarbone cannot fully heal in 8 weeks, so of course the rebreak happened as he was never fully healed. Its been 9 months since he broke it last and he had successful surgery so it's another complete heal like how it did after 2010. So we're looking at 2 actual breaks over a 6 year period. That doesn't constitute injury prone, and should be no reason for worry in the future

27 games missed since 2006 constitutes injury prone, especially when compared to the other top quarterbacks, many of whom don't miss any time at all. Again, those are just the facts, free from opinion or emotion.

 

[Idgit]

It meets the requirements of the definition of "chronic", from a dictionary that deals in facts, and not a fan who doesn't like the interpretation.

I'm not asking you to change your opinion, only to not try to change anyone else's. Or telling anyone else that "chronic" doesn't apply when it does.

Feel free to do that - for yourself. And the rest of us will judge accordingly as well.

You're the one who stepped in when another poster specifically asked me why I wasn't worried about the collarbone. So stop pretending you're the martyr here. I told you why I'm not worried about it as clearly as I can. Two, separate, isolated instances. Five or so years apart. Where the proximal cause was a giant person putting more weight on a fragile bone than that bone was designed to withstand.

I could debate your interpretation of the word 'chronic' here, if it were relevant to the thread, but it's enough to say I don't think that word means what you think it means. In any event, it doesn't matter. Unless you're going to make the point somewhere that people with fully healed broken collarbones are more likely to break them again, what's the point of arguing about it?

If it makes you feel better, we can agree to be concerned about the back, which I think I mentioned in my very first post is an actual recurring condition where he really does have an elevated risk of reinjury and which is a much more serious potential problem anyway.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I think you're mistaken in this case.

chron·ic
ˈkränik/
adjective
adjective: chronic

1. (of an illness) ]persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.
   "chronic bronchitis"
   synonyms: persistent, long-standing, long-term; More
   incurable;
   immedicable
   "a chronic illness"
   antonyms: acute
   • (of a person) having an illness persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.
     "a chronic asthmatic"
     
     
     Three times constitutes chronic.

So because I broke my wrist 15 years ago playing a sport and then broke it again 2 summers ago in a car wreck, that's considered a chronic condition? Romo does NOT have a chronic condition with his collarbone. It broke 5-6 years apart. Unless you define Constantly Recurring to mean every 5 years or so. I don't.