This is how injury prone Romo is

[Cowboy4ever]

You should, write your own dictionary if you have an issue with the established definition.

I don't think it is I that has a problem understanding what the definition of Chronic means. Again, no one on earth would describe two events, 6 years apart, as a "Constant Re-occurring event" Well, no one without an agenda I guess.

 

[Stash]

I don't think it is I that has a problem understanding what the definition of Chronic means. Again, no one on earth would describe two events, 6 years apart, as a "Constant Re-occurring event" Well, no one without an agenda I guess.

Do tell. I have "an agenda" because I refuse to blind myself to Romo's repeated injuries and him missing far more games than any of the league's other top quarterbacks?

Hilarious!

 

[Idgit]

Do tell. I have "an agenda" because I refuse to blind myself to Romo's repeated injuries and him missing far more games than any of the league's other top quarterbacks?

Hilarious!

He's right.

I'm not sure what you're getting out of it, other than the joy of being stubborn, but when a doctor tells you you're at odds with the medical definition of the term and your response is "," and when the layman's definition of the term you yourself provided makes it obvious that the two unrelated breaks were clearly not part of a pattern that is either "persistent over time" (they were six years apart and caused by separate instances) or "constantly recurring" (they happened twice. Well, three times if you count the premature return, but I think everybody knows that was the same break) and you still persist in trying to make the nonexistent case that there's a medical correlation between the two breaks, it does sort to look like you've got an agenda.

Not sure why you would want to die on the collarbone-reinjury-imminent battlefield when there are other battlefields to fight on for the same player (back, age, competition from the bench), but there sure seems to be an agenda there somewhere.

 

[DandyDon1722]

I can see people saying he is an injury risk because of the back issues he had to end 2013 and throughout the 2014 season. But no one can convince me that I should be worried about Romo being injury prone, and that the Cowboys have to think WHEN not IF Romo gets hurt. Romo plays through more injuries than most, it's going to take a serious injury or a scary back injury for Romo to sit out a game. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Romo protect himself more this year, after losing so much time last year.

Yep and I'll tell you what - I am way more concerned about the back than his collar bone at this point.

 

[Idgit]

Yep and I'll tell you what - I am way more concerned about the back than his collar bone at this point.

I agree with you that the back is the real issue. When it changes the way you have to prepare for the season and what you have to do each week to support it properly with your musculature, it's a long-term problem. Tony's still talking about preparing it when he talks about getting ready for the season. That's another sign that it's the issue that's more concerning.

 

[dfense]

Exactly and he can't move like he used to which leads to even more hits....

Some of Romo''s best escapes have come in the last couple years. He can get hit, but when 250lbs drives you into the turf...

 

[Stash]

He's right.

I'm not sure what you're getting out of it, other than the joy of being stubborn, but when a doctor tells you you're at odds with the medical definition of the term and your response is "," and when the layman's definition of the term you yourself provided makes it obvious that the two unrelated breaks were clearly not part of a pattern that is either "persistent over time" (they were six years apart and caused by separate instances) or "constantly recurring" (they happened twice. Well, three times if you count the premature return, but I think everybody knows that was the same break) and you still persist in trying to make the nonexistent case that there's a medical correlation between the two breaks, it does sort to look like you've got an agenda.

Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to avoid the facts and the truth of the matter. Romo's clavicle has been broken three times - recurring. That's the definition of the word and a fact. And a recurring injury is defined as "chronic". Not some fan fiction fantasy. There's no "time constraint" that gets you or him off the hook. It is what it is.

The only people here with an "agenda" are those who can't bear to deal with the reality of the situation and would prefer to lie to themselves and anybody else who will listen that the issues don't exist. That's the "agenda" happening here.

Not sure why you would want to die on the collarbone-reinjury-imminent battlefield when there are other battlefields to fight on for the same player (back, age, competition from the bench), but there sure seems to be an agenda there somewhere.

There's no "battlefield", because there's no "battle", because there's nothing to fight over. The facts are the facts, and the hopes are the hopes. I'll deal with the facts.

 

[UTmodisette]

Not sure why you would want to die on the collarbone-reinjury-imminent battlefield when there are other battlefields to fight on for the same player (back, age, competition from the bench), but there sure seems to be an agenda there somewhere.

He sticks to the collarbone argument because that is what has kept him out of significant parts of two seasons. Even though everyone knows the back is the more serious injury risk, Romo hasn't actually missed that many games due to his back. So his argument that Romo will miss future games doesn't have as good of concrete evidence unless he points to the collarbone. He doesn't care about a medical opinion because he has all of the facts he needs. He chooses to ignore everything that tells him a certain injury is not chronic because in his mind none of that matters when a guy has missed games twice because of an injury. That's what happens when you refuse to look at the nuances of a situation, not everything is cut and dry.

 

[CWR]

I can see people saying he is an injury risk because of the back issues he had to end 2013 and throughout the 2014 season. But no one can convince me that I should be worried about Romo being injury prone, and that the Cowboys have to think WHEN not IF Romo gets hurt. Romo plays through more injuries than most, it's going to take a serious injury or a scary back injury for Romo to sit out a game. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Romo protect himself more this year, after losing so much time last year.

Romo is a tough SOB. The fact he had ribs broken and a laceration to his lung and came back into the game to lead a comeback victory over a really tough San Francisco team (on the road too I think) cemented him being one of the toughest players Ive ever watched. They will have to drag him off the field this year lol.

 

[Idgit]

Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to avoid the facts and the truth of the matter. Romo's clavicle has been broken three times - recurring. That's the definition of the word and a fact. And a recurring injury is defined as "chronic". Not some fan fiction fantasy. There's no "time constraint" that gets you or him off the hook. It is what it is.

The only people here with an "agenda" are those who can't bear to deal with the reality of the situation and would prefer to lie to themselves and anybody else who will listen that the issues don't exist. That's the "agenda" happening here.

There's no "battlefield", because there's no "battle", because there's nothing to fight over. The facts are the facts, and the hopes are the hopes. I'll deal with the facts.

Except nobody is saying he's not dealing with actual chronic health conditions. They're just saying that it's not related to the two separate broken collarbones. If the risks are potentially the same but the sources of risk are different, there goes your 'hiding' and 'can't bear to deal with reality' arguments.

He sticks to the collarbone argument because that is what has kept him out of significant parts of two seasons. Even though everyone knows the back is the more serious injury risk, Romo hasn't actually missed that many games due to his back. So his argument that Romo will miss future games doesn't have as good of concrete evidence unless he points to the collarbone. He doesn't care about a medical opinion because he has all of the facts he needs. He chooses to ignore everything that tells him a certain injury is not chronic because in his mind none of that matters when a guy has missed games twice because of an injury. That's what happens when you refuse to look at the nuances of a situation, not everything is cut and dry.

That might be it. It's weird, though. Collarbones break, and when they do, QBs miss a lot of games, for sure. I think the rest of us are pretty much in agreement that the real issue is more like to be a recurrence of the back trouble.

 

[CWR]

I expect Romo to have a great year and win a lot of games. I am not sure if he will have gaudy stats because of the running game, but I think he will rack up the wins. I am thinking 12 wins this year unless the defense is horrendous.

I think the game plan will be similar to 2014 but he has better weapons now, with Zeke, hopefully healthy Dunbar, Twill, Beasley and Butler all more established and Dez out looking for blood. So I expect a slight uptick from those numbers.

 

[Verdict]

I agree with you that the back is the real issue. When it changes the way you have to prepare for the season and what you have to do each week to support it properly with your musculature, it's a long-term problem. Tony's still talking about preparing it when he talks about getting ready for the season. That's another sign that it's the issue that's more concerning.

Romo is not likely to be at a higher risk of reinjury to his collar bone because he has broken it before; however, he may well be at a higher risk of reinjury to his collar bone than other NFL QBs because the NFL officials do not protect Romo to the extent they protect Tom Brady, Eli Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. I swear the refs let defenses abuse Romo and go out of their way to protect some other QBs in the league.

 

[Stash]

Except nobody is saying he's not dealing with actual chronic health conditions. They're just saying that it's not related to the two separate broken collarbones.

Except it's not any fan's call to make. It's not subjective or open to interpretation, despite whether or not fans wish it were.

If the risks are potentially the same but the sources of risk are different, there goes your 'hiding' and 'can't bear to deal with reality' arguments.

No, when fans try - and fail - to put some type of qualifiers on the facts, it's entirely applicable.

 

[Idgit]

Romo is not likely to be at a higher risk of reinjury to his collar bone because he has broken it before; however, he may well be at a higher risk of reinjury to his collar bone than other NFL QBs because the NFL officials do not protect Romo to the extent they protect Tom Brady, Eli Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. I swear the refs let defenses abuse Romo and go out of their way to protect some other QBs in the league.

That much is definitely true. Or because of the way he plays. That's offset by the quality of the line in front of him and the fact that he had the Mumford procedure. Either way, it's the back that we should be more concerned about.

 

[BHendri5]

Romo is old and brittle now. There is absolutely no debate what so ever. And its not like the guy is a physical specimen as it is. That doesnt mean he cant play 16 games in a season. Its just not likely anymore. And its not all about playing in the game. Its about being 100% or being as effective as you could be otherwise.

No one at any position plays the whole season at 100%, except maybe the kickers maybe. so your response is null and void. Romo is not old and brittle and he is not injury prone. We have plenty of time for Dak

 

[BHendri5]

When you compare him to other vet QBs, that's still a lot of games missed. You got admit you cringe a little every single time he's hit now b/c of the risk of re-injuring previous injuries.

no, i do not cringe. you may cringe , I don't

 

[BHendri5]

And when you toss up those stats trying to prove Father Time wrong, you ignore that he is getting older. That his body isn't as youthful and his recovery isn't as quick.

Can he play a complete season? Sure he can.

In a game where violence is the focal point is he more susceptible at this age to get hurt.

Probably.

One last point. Injury prone. What does that mean exactly?

the stats were to show people that the guy is durable, nothing against father time. If you put 10 people in a room and convey information to them all 10 people will comprehend it differently

 

[Clove]

The fact is, Romo is NOT 26 years old. When 3 300lb men come falling down on Romo, I hope he survives. I really do.

 

[BHendri5]

when 3 men ? are you serious. boy some of you guys go way out on limbs

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

People keep talking about all these games Romo has missed over his career,
even the idiots on ESPN, the NFL Network, reporters etc do they not research their **** before they open their mouths? 27 games as a 10yr starter, is that correct?

Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2015 Dallas Cowboys 4 121 83 68.6 30.2 884 7.3 221.0 5 4.1 7 5.8 39 7 0 6 35 79.4

2014 Dallas Cowboys 15 435 304 69.9 29.0 3,705 8.5 247.0 34 7.8 9 2.1 68T 49 10 29 215 113.2

2013 Dallas Cowboys 15 535 342 63.9 35.7 3,828 7.2 255.2 31 5.8 10 1.9 82T 44 7 35 272 96.7

2012 Dallas Cowboys 16 648 425 65.6 40.5 4,903 7.6 306.4 28 4.3 19 2.9 85T 54 9 36 263 90.5

2011 Dallas Cowboys 16 522 346 66.3 32.6 4,184 8.0 261.5 31 5.9 10 1.9 77 56 11 36 227 102.5

2010 Dallas Cowboys 6 213 148 69.5 35.5 1,605 7.5 267.5 11 5.2 7 3.3 69T 21 2 7 41 94.9

2009 Dallas Cowboys 16 550 347 63.1 34.4 4,483 8.2 280.2 26 4.7 9 1.6 80T 61 17 34 196 97.6

2008 Dallas Cowboys 13 450 276 61.3 34.6 3,448 7.7 265.2 26 5.8 14 3.1 75T 48 11 20 123 91.4

2007 Dallas Cowboys 16 520 335 64.4 32.5 4,211 8.1 263.2 36 6.9 19 3.7 59T 55 11 24 176 97.4

2006 Dallas Cowboys 16 337 220 65.3 21.1 2,903 8.6 181.4 19 5.6 13 3.9 56T 42 9 21 124 95.1

I do wish we would not tempt fate, lad.
Thanks for the research, bloke.