This win makes us a "shaky 5-4" because of the horrible defensive play

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What you just described is exactly what I said. Offense was quite ordinary in the first half, but cobbled enough offense to get it going in the 2nd half. This Band-Aid defense held on just long enough for the W, but it's pretty obvious no lead is safe with this defense.

True, no lead is safe, but there is no quit in our couch brigade. After Hatcher was hurt we went all No-Names on the DL for the rest of the game. If we make any kind of a playoff run, the story of our D is going to make a great movie some day. Selvie got another sack, and Brown, who has been with the team about a week, got one, too. He also pressured Ponder into throwing that pick to Scandrick. This is just great stuff - hope it has a real happy ending.:)
 

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True, no lead is safe, but there is no quit in our couch brigade. After Hatcher was hurt we went all No-Names on the DL for the rest of the game. If we make any kind of a playoff run, the story of our D is going to make a great movie some day. Selvie got another sack, and Brown, who has been with the team about a week, got one, too. He also pressured Ponder into throwing that pick to Scandrick. This is just great stuff - hope it has a real happy ending.:)

I always hope for the best. There are only a few things that can make my day better than a Cowboys win.
 

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If I had to field a team and the choice was between our defense with a better offense or our offense with a better defense, i'd gladly take our D with a better O.

The offense looks like a JV team for half of every game. At least the defense makes plays to keep things competitive and there is potential to get better with health. The offense flops around like a dead fish for half the game and has no strength to fall back on.

Statistically one of the worst defenses in history and you'd toss our offense before tossing the defense?


LOL
 

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Our defense did pretty good. When one considers our big play guy on the D line, Everette Brown, just got off his couch and jointed the team on Tuesday, our D did a heck of a job. Props to the coaching staff for finding this guy and getting him in the game today.

Major props to Marinelli for coaching them into immediate contributors. Like the way they hustle for each other , particularly on the Hayden TD recovery. No way they were going to let that ball get out of the end zone
 

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horrible defensive play.

I can't believe that Christian ponder was able to move the Vikings offense on our defense with such ease, which shouldn't give any of us a good feeling going into next week against the Saints. Yeah we move to 5-4 and remain alone in 1st place but it doesn't change the fact that this defense is awful. A 1-6 team should not have come into our house and ran and passed the ball the way they did all day. That's just lets you know what's in store for this defense the rest of the season. This is a win that does not feel good because the defense is getting worst each week and I don't know how any realistic fan can look ahead with optimism.


But like I said we are a shaky 5-4 and hope to see the defense play better at some point

Occasionally, Stats can tell a false story but in our case, they pretty much nail it.
 

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Defense played good enough once again. What more are people expecting from a team facing so many injuries to the secondary and DLine? If I told you in August that guys like Drake Nevis, George Selvie, Nick Hayden, and Everett Brown were getting a lot of reps in the 4th quarter of close games, you'd think we'd be well below 0.500.

The Vikings have the best RB in the league and are #3 in the league in rushing TDs and #6 in yards/rush. And Ponder isn't great but he's not a total scrub. You have to take what you can get with this injury-depleted defense and that is timely turnovers and stops.

Also think about how the Saints & Ravens fans feel. There are 2 SB winners beat by two inconsistent teams. In todays NFL it surely looks like " on any given Sunday"
 

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Statistically one of the worst defenses in history and you'd toss our offense before tossing the defense?


LOL

The difference between our view in this is that "statistically" anything means more to you than me.

Give up all the yards in the world, I don't care as long as you're not also leading the league in PTS given up per game.

Yards are a very misleading way to judge either offensive or defensive units.
 

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The difference between our view in this is that "statistically" anything means more to you than me.

Give up all the yards in the world, I don't care as long as you're not also leading the league in PTS given up per game.

Yards are a very misleading way to judge either offensive or defensive units.

We're 19th in total points given up per game and 17th in lowest point average given up per game.. Definitely nothing to hang our hats on.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalPoints/position/defense
 

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The first 2 are big injuries. Especially the first one.

But Miles is pretty much useless these days.

And Murray was not injured today. Sure he went out for a little bit but he was there. We just did not run the ball.
 

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The first 2 are big injuries. Especially the first one.

But Miles is pretty much useless these days.

And Murray was not injured today. Sure he went out for a little bit but he was there. We just did not run the ball.

i dont think murray is 100%...which means he's still injured. on the field or not.
 

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Yes, they have no excuse, cept balls dropped, penalties, IDIOTIC penalties & the 1 injury that could have given us a better O-Line today to have played a bit better.
Our defense was pretty much as beat up last season. Doesn't excuse getting WORKED as badly as we have this season.
Don't forget bad passes, passes behind receivers, silly interception. If you're going to talk bad about the team, include everything.
 

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I really thought we would be 2 games ahead of the eagles because I was convinced they were not going to beat the raiders. But Foles throws 7 TD passes and now they remain one game back in the loss column

Crazy day.
 

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Honestly, the offense and defense suck collectively. The problem is, the offense is supposed to be explosive. The defense, in Kiffin's first year, both our top pass rushers down, and other injuries, should be playing the way they are playing.
 

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No, it's not. But then again, I never said it was.

Sorry if my response implied you did. The knowledge that the Saints are awaiting this train wreck next week is going to have my blood pressure up all week. :-\
 

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Honestly, the offense and defense suck collectively. The problem is, the offense is supposed to be explosive. The defense, in Kiffin's first year, both our top pass rushers down, and other injuries, should be playing the way they are playing.

This is pretty much as simple as it gets. They both suck. One of them however has a hell of a lot more to work with than the other.
 

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the offense played even worse and they have no excuse they only have 1 injury, meanwhile our defense is decimated
true. Bad day all around for the offense.dont know why. I give the defense a good grade
 
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