Those interested, reports, Commanders have met with Cowher twice

[cajuncocoa]

It's to the point now where we can safely say we'd rather have Dan Snyder.

I know. I know. He's no prize but he's better than the one we're saddled with. At least he's kind of trying to win at all cost.

No doubt in my mind. Yes, at least he's trying and the Commanders have a chance. I don't think we do.

 

[MikeT22]

Why are people so gung-ho over this guy?

He won't last wherever he goes. He won't be given 15 years(or however long it took him) to win it all by whoever hires him next.

It's a desperation move by the Commanders that's all. They were talking about Briles going there...now that would be a great move.

Briles is in Longhorns final four too. I heard their top choice, Jimbo Fisher was getting an extension from FSU so Briles may be at the top of their list. The others are Franklin at Vandy and Strong at UL.

But other than being RGIII's college coach I don't know if he'd be a good fit in the NFL.

With Cowher, I liked him but now that he's been out for 8 years, it'd be interesting to see what kind of staff he'd put together and how successful he would be now. But not sure what the 15 years has to do with anything. Just because that's how long it did take him to win a SB in Pittsburgh it doesn't mean it would have to be that long the next time. He did get the AFC Champ. game several times a decade earlier including a SB appearance against us in '95.

 

[MikeT22]

no. I'm saying like Tom Landry every great coach doesn't start off great. It is a rational comparison.

he struggled. he did stupid things too from time to time. His idea of switching qb's every play was idiotic. fans wanted his head and were pissed when the owner gave him a 10 year extension.

So that makes it rational to compare Garrett to him 4 decades later? Well lucky for the Cowboys and Landry that he didn't have an incompetent owner/gm controlling personnel and dictating much of the coaching staff hires on him.

 

[khiladi]

Whether or not he's an above average coach, he's been part of a strong organizational culture that competed every year. He also had no problems letting the master DC, LeBeau do his thing. He can be an above average coach, but nobody can deny the ovrall effects of his presence on that team.

 

[Mansta54]

LOL. Are you really going to compare the first few years of an expansion team in the pre-Super Bowl era to now? Really?

Yea really! I did it didn't I? Really!!!!

 

[khiladi]

LOL. So every coach that had zero experience, didn't win at first, and fans didn't like is Tom Landry.

That is an absolute joke. Which is more likely, that those coaches are Tom Landry/Bill Belichick, or Jim Zorn/Dave Campo?

Don't insult Zorn and Campo by comparing them to Garrett...

 

[Alexander]

pointing out similarities is a rational approach.

they both had zero head coaching experience

If you knew a thing about how both he and Lombardi ran their respective pieces of the Giants, you would not even bother with this simplistic comparison.

they both struggled heavily, even though you could see competitiveness to their teams

they both were despised early in their head coaching careers in Dallas. the owner seemed to be the only person to see anything in them. When Landry got a 10 year extension after never posting a winning record, you think people were pleased?

You are acting like Tom Landry was some unknown novice who Murchinson and Schramm just recognized undiscovered potential in. Landry spent years as a defensive coordinator during the Giants' glory years in the 1950s.

What has Jason Garrett ever done? Tutor bad QBs in Miami for a few years?

study your history

Take your own advice.

I suggest you go buy a good biographical book about Tom Landry and read it very slowly.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

So that makes it rational to compare Garrett to him 4 decades later? Well lucky for the Cowboys and Landry that he didn't have an incompetent owner/gm controlling personnel and dictating much of the coaching staff hires on him.

yes. to compare similarities is rational. any other softballs to lob at me?

 

[Nirvana]

I used to respect Shanahan a lot more as a coach before these last couple years. He handled RGIII and the offensive scheme poorly, and often looked bone-headed in his decisions. As for Cowher, he is no saving grace for the team and is overrated.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I suggest you go buy a good biographical book about Tom Landry and read it very slowly.

We could fill the grand canyon with your lack of knowledge

 

[ufcrules1]

It's to the point now where we can safely say we'd rather have Dan Snyder.

I know. I know. He's no prize but he's better than the one we're saddled with. At least he's kind of trying to win at all cost.

Cowher is who I wanted here. I hope the Commanders don't sign him.

 

[Risen Star]

I used to respect Shanahan a lot more as a coach before these last couple years. He handled RGIII and the offensive scheme poorly, and often looked bone-headed in his decisions. As for Cowher, he is no saving grace for the team and is overrated.

I think it's pretty hard to coach in Washington. Like it is here. I don't think his tenure there defines what kind of coach he is at all.

 

[Alexander]

We could fill the grand canyon with your lack of knowledge

Wow--that stung coming from you.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Wow--that stung coming from you.

maybe if you read it more slowly?

 

[Alexander]

I think it's pretty hard to coach in Washington. Like it is here. I don't think his tenure there defines what kind of coach he is at all.

It did not define Schottenheimer either.

 

[Picksix]

I think he'll have trouble duplicating his success in Pittsburgh. No question about it.

He won't have Lebeau and Arians. He might be able to bring Capers with him though if GB cans him.

 

[Tawney88]

If you knew a thing about how both he and Lombardi ran their respective pieces of the Giants, you would not even bother with this simplistic comparison.


You are acting like Tom Landry was some unknown novice who Murchinson and Schramm just recognized undiscovered potential in. Landry spent years as a defensive coordinator during the Giants' glory years in the 1950s.

What has Jason Garrett ever done? Tutor bad QBs in Miami for a few years?


Take your own advice.

I suggest you go buy a good biographical book about Tom Landry and read it very slowly.

Snap

 

[khiladi]

It did not define Schottenheimer either.

It should have, because Marty is a G. The guy started off 0-5 and then won five straight and finished the season at 8-8. If they kept Marty, that team would have been solid with nice team. That's why Marty had San Diego in the AFC Conference championship in 2007 and another play-off appearance before. If their safety didn't fumble the ball after Brady's 5th INT, they wuld have probably won the SB. Snyder set them back by firing him and hiring Spurrier. Kind of like us hiring a one-trick pony in Garrett.

 

[Alexander]

maybe if you read it more slowly?

Do you always debate on the intellectual level of a 12 year old?

I had better stop now or I could end up on your ignore list and not be able to sleep.

 

[MRV52]

If he is overated then what is Jason Garrett?

An Overated Trainee