Thoughts on the Mingo trade!

[DuncanIso]

I would've loved it if we just gave them a 6 or 7. A 4th is absolutely ridiculous. He's done nothing.

he must have been on their board at some time.

They like the kid.

The Mazi pick is a black eye, but we've done well drafting and signing players.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You have to consider taking on money in these deals, it isn't an apples to apples discussion. Cooper's deal was a salary dump.

first, its not about just the money. its about getting better. does Mingo make us better? its not about 53 on the roster. its about 53 that can make it to playoffs and make a run. else, just go to UFL and load up on as many players as possible...we had 23M on the cap......

and second its about value of a player ....cooper is worth a 3rd. then what is Mingo worth in comparison? just a few draft picks lower given Bills will be in playoffs and picking at bottom of the 3rd and we are going to be in top of 4th? we over paid for Mingo based on what happened with a few of the trades. Hopkins who more than doubles up Mingo fetched a 5th.

this was a desparate move by Jones, perhaps they went back to their scouting reports and had liked him and just traded because of that, forgetting to watch his NFL films. this is another Lance trade...might as well not have made a pick in the 4th round.

 

[bottleKids]

This isn't a now move, but more towards the future. Mingo is very raw, but does possess elite athletic traits. He could potentially become that X receiver we lack. By trading for him, doesn't exclude the team from drafting another high receiver this year. Probably overpaid a little, but they are banking on his upside. I really liked him in the draft 2 years ago, has some Dez Bryant qualities, but he is more in the Jalen Tolbert level right now and won't make a big, immediate impact.

We have our starting QB on on IR, we wont make the playoffs, we should have been selling. We over paid for a second round bust that if Jerry was smart (which he isn't) waited until the off season, we could have got him cheaper. All the other top WR moves were for less, but Jerry likes to overpay.

 

[LysleE]

I thought it was a trade made by Jerry to save face…why else would you pay a 4th round pick for a WR who couldn’t crack the starting line-up for the Panthers after being on the roster for a couple of years.
Typical Dallas…takes a guy with the physical measurables and not much else. With the coaching staff Dallas has it’s not like they are going to suddenly unlock any hidden potential and he is going to become a viable offensive threat.
And for a team that builds solely via the draft…and clearly has many holes to fill…why waste a 4th round pick when picks are a precious commodity.
Great job Dallas FO!! <sarcasm>

 

[Whyjerry]

Very different circumstances.

Value and talent is always the key driver. Mingo under no circumstances was worth a 4.

 

[75boyz]

I thought it was a trade made by Jerry to save face…why else would you pay a 4th round pick for a WR who couldn’t crack the starting line-up for the Panthers after being on the roster for a couple of years.
Typical Dallas…takes a guy with the physical measurables and not much else. With the coaching staff Dallas has it’s not like they are going to suddenly unlock any hidden potential and he is going to become a viable offensive threat.
And for a team that builds solely via the draft…and clearly has many holes to fill…why waste a 4th round pick when picks are a precious commodity.
Great job Dallas FO!! <sarcasm>

Exactly.

 

[stinkface]

NFL.com said we overpaid and we were one of the trade deadline losers.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

This isn't a now move, but more towards the future. Mingo is very raw, but does possess elite athletic traits. He could potentially become that X receiver we lack. By trading for him, doesn't exclude the team from drafting another high receiver this year. Probably overpaid a little, but they are banking on his upside. I really liked him in the draft 2 years ago, has some Dez Bryant qualities, but he is more in the Jalen Tolbert level right now and won't make a big, immediate impact.

My thoughts are that our senile old owner paid more for a bust WR with zero TD catches, than the Lions did for a legit established former pro bowl pass rusher.

SURE the guy "has traits". So does EVERY guy drafted in the 2nd round of the NFL Draft. But he's a bust. You don't trade a a 4th rd pick for a bust.... u swap a 6th rounder for a 7th rounder for a bust "with traits".

It's not like he was even some SUPER regarded prospect even coming out of college.

As usual...we made the worst trade this year.

P.S. que the dummies who will say "well he won't be any worse than (insert past 4th rounders we've taken that didn't work out....as if that's justification for throwing away a valuable 4th rd pick)

 

[jazzcat22]

Value and talent is always the key driver. Mingo under no circumstances was worth a 4.

We don't know that yet. Look at his situation. He was on a team with QB's far worse than our situation.
And we still won't know. I mean he will play with a back up QB, no running game, and an OL still trying to find its way.
Not that he would be better off with Dak, the way he has played. But at least Cook is returning, and CeeDee is here (if not out with his shoulder). Bingo or even Tolbert could benefit as the 3rd WR.

I don't really like the trade either to give up a 4th round pick. As that and the 4 - 5th rounders we have, could be used to trade up.
But I can't do anything about it. So not going to constantly whine either. All we can d is wait and see. As we seen, many times players just need a change and a different start.

 

[Whyjerry]

We don't know that yet. Look at his situation. He was on a team with QB's far worse than our situation.
And we still won't know. I mean he will play with a back up QB, no running game, and an OL still trying to find its way.
Not that he would be better off with Dak, the way he has played. But at least Cook is returning, and CeeDee is here (if not out with his shoulder). Bingo or even Tolbert could benefit as the 3rd WR.

I don't really like the trade either to give up a 4th round pick. As that and the 4 - 5th rounders we have, could be used to trade up.
But I can't do anything about it. So not going to constantly whine either. All we can d is wait and see. As we seen, many times players just need a change and a different start.

This team needs to be a seller not buyer at this trade line. They have screwed their cap up so they need to build the roster with cheap rookies. Mingo doesn’t help them at all. Stop being such a homer.

 

[FVSTONE]

This isn't a now move, but more towards the future. Mingo is very raw, but does possess elite athletic traits. He could potentially become that X receiver we lack. By trading for him, doesn't exclude the team from drafting another high receiver this year. Probably overpaid a little, but they are banking on his upside. I really liked him in the draft 2 years ago, has some Dez Bryant qualities, but he is more in the Jalen Tolbert level right now and won't make a big, immediate impact.

I don't think the Cowboy's have long enough arms when it comes to Mingo, that's how much of a reach this dude is.

 

[Cowboyny]

We have our starting QB on on IR, we wont make the playoffs, we should have been selling. We over paid for a second round bust that if Jerry was smart (which he isn't) waited until the off season, we could have got him cheaper. All the other top WR moves were for less, but Jerry likes to overpay.

Timing is very strange and overpaid for sure.

 

[Cowboyny]

first, its not about just the money. its about getting better. does Mingo make us better? its not about 53 on the roster. its about 53 that can make it to playoffs and make a run. else, just go to UFL and load up on as many players as possible...we had 23M on the cap......

and second its about value of a player ....cooper is worth a 3rd. then what is Mingo worth in comparison? just a few draft picks lower given Bills will be in playoffs and picking at bottom of the 3rd and we are going to be in top of 4th? we over paid for Mingo based on what happened with a few of the trades. Hopkins who more than doubles up Mingo fetched a 5th.

this was a desparate move by Jones, perhaps they went back to their scouting reports and had liked him and just traded because of that, forgetting to watch his NFL films. this is another Lance trade...might as well not have made a pick in the 4th round.

Remember, Cooper had multiple years at 20 million per season, at that time it was a high contract.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Remember, Cooper had multiple years at 20 million per season, at that time it was a high contract.

I know, which is why it makes it stupid to have traded him and he was still a top 5 WR at the time.

 

[conner01]

This isn't a now move, but more towards the future. Mingo is very raw, but does possess elite athletic traits. He could potentially become that X receiver we lack. By trading for him, doesn't exclude the team from drafting another high receiver this year. Probably overpaid a little, but they are banking on his upside. I really liked him in the draft 2 years ago, has some Dez Bryant qualities, but he is more in the Jalen Tolbert level right now and won't make a big, immediate impact.

The player isn’t bad. The price was too high

 

[Cowboyny]

I know, which is why it makes it stupid to have traded him and he was still a top 5 WR at the time.

They don't have any idea how to manage the cap. This is why I keep on saying we need a veteran HC who they trust that can convince them to make the necessary changes.

 

[Phil413Cowboy]

This is a desperate move to aquire a 2nd round talent for a 4th. Truth is this guy is worth maybe a 6th at best and the panthers fleesed the jonses

Never fails

 

[garyo1954]

All you gotta know Booger and Booger Jr gave him two thumbs up. They only draft super stars with super talent. Ask them. They'll tell you.

 

[Creeper]

Could be, but for only a 4th for a receiver with his measurables, over 2 years left on contract, and According to Adam Thielen (teammate) work ethic just yesterday it’s well worth the the risk!

Again, it is about value. Measurables are a larger consideration in the draft. Once a player has 2 seasons in the NFL I think his performances on the field takes precedence over all the other stuff. Mingo, according to what I am reading runs bad routes and drops the ball a lot. His catch percentage is somewhere around 50%. Sure, some of that is the QB, but the drops have something to do with it as well.

I am not against the trade, or any trade for that matter. My issue is giving up a 4th round pick for a player who so far in the NFL has not proven he can play. Draft picks are more valuable for Dallas than most teams because Dallas does not engage in free agency. The draft is their primary source of talent.

 

[DFWJC]

Entering his 3rd season in the NFL

He has zero TD receptions in his career so far.
You read that right.

He's only 23, so who knows, But ewww