Tiger in the hunt at Masters

[viman96]

Most don't have millions of dollars to have multiple surgeries, the best doctors money can buy, the ability to have around the clock care, the best physical therapists and not "work" for a year or more to get back to health.

I'll give him props for perseverance, but most people don't have access to the care he got....

Even if the average person did have the same access does not mean they would apply the same commitment as Tiger. No doubt some would but hardly the majority. Anyone can see it everyday people with the same access do less. You see it in your work place everyday. Every school at every level. Very few are truly drive to succeed at a very high level.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Most don't have millions of dollars to have multiple surgeries, the best doctors money can buy, the ability to have around the clock care, the best physical therapists and not "work" for a year or more to get back to health.

I'll give him props for perseverance, but most people don't have access to the care he got....

So, Fred Couples and Davis Love did not have access to good healthcare? Winning the Masters is lot more than than overcoming back issues.

 

[kskboys]

Wall to wall coverage of Tiger's victory despite NBA playoffs NHL playoffs and a bit more than a week to go before the NFL draft. I don't get it. It's still just freaking golf at the end of the day. We had several upsets in game ones of the NBA playoffs but all I see being talked about is Tiger.

There are many golf fans. I can't stand watching the game myself and couldn't care less who wins, but I respect the fact that this is a great story and there are many golf fans who are interested.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yes, in his prime, Tiger was thin; that's my point.

So, there is a correlation between being incredibly fit and back issues?........please post that link.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Even if the average person did have the same access does not mean they would apply the same commitment as Tiger. No doubt some would but hardly the majority. Anyone can see it everyday people with the same access do less. You see it in your work place everyday. Every school at every level. Very few are truly drive to succeed at a very high level.

What did Tiger have to gain? Access to more millions of dollars, endorsements, etc. Most regular people would just return to normal life, Tiger had more incentive than most, hence he had reason to try harder.

I'm not discounting Tiger's efforts, just noting that he had advantages others didn't/don't. And he also had Nicklaus' record for majors within reasonable reach, golfers like Couples, etc. were way away from that, therefore more incentive than most...

 

[TheBigEasy]

What did Tiger have to gain? Access to more millions of dollars, endorsements, etc. Most regular people would just return to normal life, Tiger had more incentive than most, hence he had reason to try harder.

I'm not discounting Tiger's efforts, just noting that he had advantages others didn't/don't. And he also had Nicklaus' record for majors within reasonable reach, golfers like Couples, etc. were way away from that, therefore more incentive than most...

What kind of incentive is being 4 major wins behind Jack? What would beating Jack's record get him? More money? We all know that he never has to worry about that for the remainder of his life. His incentive to comeback and play at a high level was his kids. His kids never had the chance to see him win and this is what drove him. His peers had/have the same incentive.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

What kind of incentive is being 4 major wins behind Jack? .

Are you kidding? To be considered the greatest golfer of all time! What sports competitor wouldn't want to be the GOAT? Brady has 6 SBs, nobody else has more than 4, and only two of those guys. Chances of anybody passing Brady is very slim, it took nearly 30 years after Montana won his 4th for Brady to pass him up, the more wins someone gets the harder it is for someone to pass that guy up. After Starr won 2, it only took Griese 4 years to match him and it only took 5 years or so for Bradshaw to get 4. But then it took 15 years for Montana to reach 4. Now somebody has to win SEVEN to pass Brady. It becomes harder and harder to set the record. So why does Brady still play?

Because it COULD happen, the more he gets, the better his chances of no one ever breaking his record. Aikman had second thoughts about staying retired. He had 3 SB rings, at the time the record was 4 SB wins, only needed one more to match the other 2 guys.

Tiger gets 19 majors, it may stand for 50 years. At which time he'll likely be dead and gone, so he'll never have to deal with someone being considered greater than he was.

That's PLENTY of incentive...

 

[atlantacowboy]

What did Tiger have to gain? Access to more millions of dollars, endorsements, etc. Most regular people would just return to normal life, Tiger had more incentive than most, hence he had reason to try harder.

I'm not discounting Tiger's efforts, just noting that he had advantages others didn't/don't. And he also had Nicklaus' record for majors within reasonable reach, golfers like Couples, etc. were way away from that, therefore more incentive than most...

Tigers only "advantage" in life was having a Dad who taught him golf and a competitive spirit. He learned the game on public courses and does not come from money. He's done everything on his own.

He tried harder. Therefore any pro golfer with similar means and incentives would have done the same with similar results? Ridiculous

 

[JoeKing]

Absolutely have no issue with you choosing to pass on watching the Masters. It's your life and you do as you wish. Saying that, I'd expect the same in return. There's no need to come in here and try to talk down at the people who watched it, at the people who are passionate about the sport and at the people who are a fan of Tiger. Unfortunately for you, you're missing out on one heck of a great sport and missing out on watching the career of one of the most dominant athletes to ever play a sport. Yesterday was one hell of a ride and I enjoyed every damn second of it.

I said "I don't get it" is all. I did not talk down to anyone. If others love it then god bless them. I'm out.

 

[JoeKing]

There are many golf fans. I can't stand watching the game myself and couldn't care less who wins, but I respect the fact that this is a great story and there are many golf fans who are interested.

The sports shows have a limited time to talk about what's happening in the world of sports and by paying so much attention to the Tiger story, other relevant sports events get neglected. I believe the Tiger story is relevant but it does not take the full hour to talk about it when we have NBA playoffs to talk about too.

 

[Diehardblues]

The haters can’t stand it. Lol

 

[Doc50]

So, there is a correlation between being incredibly fit and back issues?........please post that link.

No, there's plenty of correlation of squats and other specific types of weight training with back issues.

There's also plenty of evidence that altering one's repetitive motion mechanics is likely to produce cascading physical consequences.

I see these kinds of injuries all the time.

Tiger changed his fitness regimen from flexibility to strength, and messed up his swing.

 

[Diehardblues]

What did Tiger have to gain? Access to more millions of dollars, endorsements, etc. Most regular people would just return to normal life, Tiger had more incentive than most, hence he had reason to try harder.

I'm not discounting Tiger's efforts, just noting that he had advantages others didn't/don't. And he also had Nicklaus' record for majors within reasonable reach, golfers like Couples, etc. were way away from that, therefore more incentive than most...

We’d all have to have a greater understanding what drives Tiger. Jack was his idol and his records were the driving force since he was a kid.

He didn’t have advantages growing up. He overcame 4 surgeries on his back and 4 on his knees. It’s the greatest human comeback physically in sports history. The only comparison I can think of in my lifetime is Muhammad Ali who overcame having his Title stripped from him but no injuries to overcome.

And I’d put Tiger in that same conversation as Ali as two of the greatest athletes to ever compete and dominate their sport. I’m not sure I’d put any team sport athletes in the same sentence.

 

[Diehardblues]

The sports shows have a limited time to talk about what's happening in the world of sports and by paying so much attention to the Tiger story, other relevant sports events get neglected. I believe the Tiger story is relevant but it does not take the full hour to talk about it when we have NBA playoffs to talk about too.

Why do you think they did dedicate so much time in covering Tiger?

 

[Doomsday101]

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Just an epic display. I was a PGA shop pro fro 20 years and unfortunately I'm old enough to have have seen Nicklaus win it in 1986. I've never seen anything like that one. I can only compare it to the Dallas Cowboys beating the Packers in the 1996 Championship game or Emmitt Smith breaking the rushing title against Seattle as one of the most memorable sports moments of my life. I feel honored and really lazy to have sat and watched every swing of all 4 days of it.

Tiger's year might not be quite finished. He and Mickelson have both been dominant at Pebble where the U.S. is being played this year and Tiger's also seen success at Bethpage where the PGA Championship is being played. If he hits the driver the way he did yesterday he can compete in any major.

 

[JoeKing]

Why do you think they did dedicate so much time in covering Tiger?

Because they don't respect there audience that wants to hear their analysis of the NBA playoffs as much as they should. Isn't that obvious? They blew it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Because they don't respect there audience that wants to hear their analysis of the NBA playoffs as much as they should. Isn't that obvious? They blew it.

Lol.. right. They intentionally aired less of NBA playoffs to drive away viewers. Brilliant analysis.

 

[JoeKing]

Lol.. right. They intentionally aired less of NBA playoffs to drive away viewers. Brilliant analysis.

I didn't say it was intentional. It was an oversight. Like I said, they blew it.

 

[Diehardblues]

I didn't say it was intentional. It was an oversight. Like I said, they blew it.

For you but not the majority of viewers.