Time for Sam?

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Chuck 54

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Does the question presuppose that Sam will suddenly throw a switch and have a pass rush that he doesn't have in practice? Come on; if he was showing tobe even one of the best four pass rushers on the team, he'd get a shot. Let's let him develop.

We have pressured QBs every week, moving them off their spots, getting in their faces, rushing throws, and getting some hits....until the Giants game. This week versus Washington, we will see if that was an aberration or if it will be a problem for us. We need to keep moving with that push up the middle, along with stopping the run.
 

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Not saying he is or he isn't but like others said coaches don't always get it right. Other things to take into account is that not all players preform well in practice, some are just gamers. Secondly who is he going against in practice because if he's going against the starters not even the elite pass rushers looked great against our O-line.
 

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Coaches see and work with Sam everyday. If he was a better option don't you think he'd be on the active roster?

yeah well coaches saw and played Costa every day as well. It is not like they are infallible, are they?

look how long the proctologist lingered.
 

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This guys special circumstances are keeping him on everyone's radar. Let's throw that out the window and look at what this guy is as an NFL player. If he's at a level that he can remotely help the team, he would be active. Right now he's just a low level LB on the Cowboys practice squad. In reality, he's like alot of other LB's sitting on practice squads, a guy that just doesn't have the talent at this point to warrant a roster spot on 32 NFL teams.
 

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Broaddus always responds that he thinks Sam would be called up towards the last quarter of the season..

So maybe you guys can revisit this thread after game 12.
 

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Can our outside pass rush be any worse? Why not activate Sam and give him some 3rd down snaps? Just take Lavar Edwards active roster spot this week...

I think it is a situation where you trust in Rod Marinelli, saying can it be any worse? Yes it can. When or if they feel he is ready he will get his shot until then he need to keep working.
 

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sam could be called up later to protect him but he obvioulsy is not in the plans to come in and be a major part of the team this year.he is a PS player for a reason. he needs to learn, get stronger and work on his game which is exactly what the ps is for. if he was better than what we have he would be on the roster
 

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I'd take him if he looks ready. We do get Lawrence back, soon and I would like to see Spencer get his legs going.





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Not really. This is the worst I've ever seen.

Cool nicknames though.

Really? This year's pass rush is WAY better than last year so you must have hit your head or something. Guys like Russell Wilson don't have sub 50 QB ratings because they feel comfortable back there.
 

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yeah well coaches saw and played Costa every day as well. It is not like they are infallible, are they?

look how long the proctologist lingered.

They had other options sitting on the PS while starting Costa? Maybe that's why they "reached" for Fredrick....
 

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Really? This year's pass rush is WAY better than last year so you must have hit your head or something. Guys like Russell Wilson don't have sub 50 QB ratings because they feel comfortable back there.

It's really not, so maybe you bumped your head.. lol

Every generic stat out there suggests the Cowboys defense is virtually similar to last year. The differences are mainly in points allowed and their ability to get off the field, but pass rushing stats are similar. Sacks are down and in putrid territory.
 

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It's really not, so maybe you bumped your head.. lol

Every generic stat out there suggests the Cowboys defense is virtually similar to last year. The differences are mainly in points allowed and their ability to get off the field, but pass rushing stats are similar. Sacks are down and in putrid territory.

Yes, which is why you need to look beyond sack numbers and some of these other generic stats, they don't tell the full story. Points allowed is the very first stat by which defenses should be measured and is strongly correlated to an effective pass rush, particularly in this pass happy league. Again, if QBs truly felt comfortable back there, our points against would be higher. If they felt comfortable back there, their 3rd down conversion rates would be higher, etc.

Yes, sacks are down and would certainly like to see those climb, but this isn't "the worst it's ever been" by any stretch.
 

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Not saying he is or he isn't but like others said coaches don't always get it right. Other things to take into account is that not all players preform well in practice, some are just gamers. Secondly who is he going against in practice because if he's going against the starters not even the elite pass rushers looked great against our O-line.

True coaches do not always get it right but it is at least it is based on day in and day out interaction with the player, they see him all week and in the meetings so it is more than, well lets see. I hope Sam does develop and is brought up to the main squad and I think he will be when they feel he is ready
 

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Yes, which is why you need to look beyond sack numbers and some of these other generic stats, they don't tell the full story. Points allowed is the very first stat by which defenses should be measured and is strongly correlated to an effective pass rush, particularly in this pass happy league. Again, if QBs truly felt comfortable back there, our points against would be higher. If they felt comfortable back there, their 3rd down conversion rates would be higher, etc.
The pass defense is better and that doesn't always equate to a better pass rush. That means the secondary is playing better. The linebackers are playing better. The pass rushing aspect of this team is not better. That's not just statistics. That's reality. The pass rush is inconsistent for the most part, but has been effective at timely moments.
 

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Can our outside pass rush be any worse? Why not activate Sam and give him some 3rd down snaps? Just take Lavar Edwards active roster spot this week...

I think it works both ways. If the outside rush forced the QB into the pocket the inside rushers should get to him. If the inside rushers collapse the pocket the outside rushers should get to him.

I still think this d-line needs a monster tackle to blow up the interior more than they need an outside rusher.
 

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Umm ... not always the case. We didn't know what we had in Tony Romo, Miles Austin, and Demarco Murray until we gave them a chance to play.

I'm just sayin ...

And they rode the bench for a while too before getting playing time. Romo brought in because Parcells was frustrated with the QB play. Austin played due to injury.
Murray played because, was it jones was released or left as a FA, can't remember.
It's not like the coaches said...hey, let's try these guys....they waited a year or more in each case, several actually.
 

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The pass defense is better and that doesn't always equate to a better pass rush. That means the secondary is playing better. The linebackers are playing better. The pass rushing aspect of this team is not better. That's not just statistics. That's reality. The pass rush is inconsistent for the most part, but has been effective at timely moments.

I think it's important to take a more holistic view of the defense. I think it's hard to say our points against/3rd down conversion %'s are better this year without giving credit to the pass rush. If our pass rush was so pitiful, those numbers simply wouldn't be where they are, they would be higher. And don't dismiss the eyeball test, opposing QBs have flat out looked uncomfortable back there. They're feeling the pressure, just watch how they act.
 
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