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[Cowboy Brian]

Yeah I realised he'd have missed a lot of it cause of age but as a wrestling fan a lot of folks go back and watch whatever they can to see who all was great and what made them great. Simply by doing a little bit of research you can easily find out that Austin was quite the in ring talent, which is why I was pointing out that it was obvious he'd not done his homework on Austin before making the claim that he wasn't an in ring talent.

He was average, but nothing great. Not everyone can be above average, or there would be no average.

 

[zrinkill]

I know every single one of the people who you mentioned.

Can you list every company Jim Cornette has had a significant impact in without googling, or searching otherwise? I can.

NWA
WCW
WWE
SMW

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I know every single one of the people who you mentioned.

Do you know them because you've heard of them or because you've actually seen plenty of their craft to know how good they were at what they did?


I know a ton of wrestling names but that doesn't mean I actually watched any of them. Loads and loads of Japanese stars I've heard of but I haven't really watched much of their work to be able to accurately display any knowledge of what they were and weren't good at.


For example with AJ and this whole Ric Flair thing. Go back and watch Ric Flair do that stick in his prime. Watch some NWA stuff of Flair playing that role and see how it's supposed to be done. It blows away, by miles, what AJ can do with that character and attitude and run.

AJ is a fantastic athlete who does a lot of very cool things but he isn't half the wrestler, when it comes to professional wrestling, that a guy like Ric Flair is. He isn't in the same breath, IMO, as guys like HBK, HHH, Austin, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Magnum TA, Dusty Rhodes, The Funks, and a whole lot of other greats who really had the whole package.

The whole package includes the psychology along with everything else that goes into being great in matches. As well as being able to really work the mic.

AJ lacks in a couple of very key areas which have already been mentioned.

 

[zrinkill]

Not everyone can be above average, or there would be no average.

That is why there is a TNAverage

 

[Cowboy Brian]

NWA
WCW
WWE
SMW

Impressive you remembered SMW, but you forgot two.

 

[zrinkill]

AJ is a fantastic athlete who does a lot of very cool things but he isn't half the wrestler, when it comes to professional wrestling, that a guy like Ric Flair is. He isn't in the same breath, IMO, as guys like HBK, HHH, Austin, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Magnum TA, Dusty Rhodes, The Funks, and a whole lot of other greats who really had the whole package.

The whole package includes the psychology along with everything else that goes into being great in matches. As well as being able to really work the mic.

AJ lacks in a couple of very key areas which have already been mentioned.

Nice ...

 

[zrinkill]

Impressive you remembered SMW, but you forgot two.

He was only a character at ROH

and I could care less about Tna

you said "significant impact"

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Do you know them because you've heard of them or because you've actually seen plenty of their craft to know how good they were at what they did?


I know a ton of wrestling names but that doesn't mean I actually watched any of them. Loads and loads of Japanese stars I've heard of but I haven't really watched much of their work to be able to accurately display any knowledge of what they were and weren't good at.


For example with AJ and this whole Ric Flair thing. Go back and watch Ric Flair do that stick in his prime. Watch some NWA stuff of Flair playing that role and see how it's supposed to be done. It blows away, by miles, what AJ can do with that character and attitude and run.

AJ is a fantastic athlete who does a lot of very cool things but he isn't half the wrestler, when it comes to professional wrestling, that a guy like Ric Flair is. He isn't in the same breath, IMO, as guys like HBK, HHH, Austin, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Magnum TA, Dusty Rhodes, The Funks, and a whole lot of other greats who really had the whole package.

The whole package includes the psychology along with everything else that goes into being great in matches. As well as being able to really work the mic.

AJ lacks in a couple of very key areas which have already been mentioned.

AJ is the best overall package under 32 today only one else you can make a legit argument for are Punk, Danielson, Wolfe & Morrision, and Magnum TA does not deserve to be mentioned with HBK, Arn, Flair, Dusty or the Funks.


I've seen the von erichs work matches, and a JYD match, the rest no but i've heard of.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

He was only a character at ROH

and I could care less about Tna

no he still is a character at ROH and he is the producer for their show.



and thats fantastic, is it just anything I like you seem to have an issue with?

 

[zrinkill]

AJ is the best overall package

Not even close ......

Hell there are 2 guys more athletic than him on TNAverage.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He was average, but nothing great. Not everyone can be above average, or there would be no average.

Totally disagree. There was nothing average about what he brought to the table in terms of having a quality match.

We're going to disagree on this till the end of time because its clear you're into the flashy move sets and stuff and are not into the real meat and potatos of what makes a great match an amazing and memorable match.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Not even close ......

I finished the thought.

The best overall all-time wrestler? Michaels, unless your a Flair homer.

 

[zrinkill]

I've seen the von erichs work matches, and a JYD match, the rest no but i've heard of.

Like I said ....

TNA fanboy for 7 years.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Totally disagree. There was nothing average about what he brought to the table in terms of having a quality match.

We're going to disagree on this till the end of time because its clear you're into the flashy move sets and stuff and are not into the real meat and potatos of what makes a great match an amazing and memorable match.

I like matches put together with the styles of Michaels, Syles,Angle, Wolfe, Danielson, Joe, RVD and anyone similar to that(Edge, Morrison, Jericho)

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Like I said ....

TNA fanboy for 7 years.

Actually loved WWE during the Lesnar-Angle stuff.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

AJ is the best overall package under 32 today only one else you can make a legit argument for are Punk, Danielson, Wolfe & Morrision, and Magnum TA does not deserve to be mentioned with HBK, Arn, Flair, Dusty or the Funks.


I've seen the von erichs work matches, and a JYD match, the rest no but i've heard of.

Which tells you the state of wrestling through your eyes. If he's the best overall package under 32 then there isn't anything thats even close to a total, overall, package under 32 years old because AJ simply is not now, nor has he ever been, the total package when it comes to wrestling.

He lacks in key areas that I've pointed out which keep him from even being in a discussion of total package.

And the lack of respect that you just showed Magnum shows that you don't know much about any of those guys cause if you read, or watched interviews, from guys like Dusty, Tully, Flair, the Funks, etc they all will tell anyone and everyone that TA was the real deal and the next HUGE star before his wreck.

He was the guy picked, and groomed, to next take over the NWA championship from Flair and be off and running.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Which tells you the state of wrestling through your eyes. If he's the best overall package under 32 then there isn't anything thats even close to a total, overall, package under 32 years old because AJ simply is not now, nor has he ever been, the total package when it comes to wrestling.

He lacks in key areas that I've pointed out which keep him from even being in a discussion of total package.

And the lack of respect that you just showed Magnum shows that you don't know much about any of those guys cause if you read, or watched interviews, from guys like Dusty, Tully, Flair, the Funks, etc they all will tell anyone and everyone that TA was the real deal and the next HUGE star before his wreck.

He was the guy picked, and groomed, to next take over the NWA championship from Flair and be off and running.

That may be the case, but he never proved it.

 

[zrinkill]

The best overall all-time wrestler? Michaels, unless your a Flair homer.

Michaels would be in the running yes.

Also

Bret Hart
Kurt Angle
Flair
Steamboat
Benoit (before he murdered his family)
Eddie
Jericho
Macho Man was underrated as a worker.

 

[zrinkill]

That may be the case, but he never proved it.

Neither has Styles .... he could never make it in the big leagues.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I finished the thought.

The best overall all-time wrestler? Michaels, unless your a Flair homer.

I actually agree with Michaels being the best of all time. I don't think it's even close, IMO. He's hands down the best cause he was absolutely great at everything.

The thing is that for you to know this then you have to realise, or should anyway, that even trying to compare AJ Styles, at all, to HBK is laughable.

I like matches put together with the styles of Michaels, Syles,Angle, Wolfe, Danielson, Joe, RVD and anyone similar to that(Edge, Morrison, Jericho)

And there is nothing wrong with that, at all. To each their own for sure. In fact there are quite a few in that list that I think are great as well.