TNA Wrestling moves to Monday Night starting March 8th.

[zrinkill]

I love Vickie ..... great heel.

C.M. Punk is another guy I wish would come to RAW.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I love Vickie ..... great heel.

I love her also. Especially when the TV is muted.

 

[zrinkill]

I love her also. Especially when the TV is muted.

:laugh2:

Eddie would be proud of her.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

:laugh2:

Eddie would be proud of her.

RIP. If Eddie had never passed wrestling would be completely different, he was the only wrestler to ever come close to the homer-ism/pop i'd give to Shawn Michaels.

 

[Ren]

Not a big fan of wrasslin' anymore, but I agree w/ those that say Orton is da man! He's the best heel in the business right about now! I do watch a li'l of both brands every once in awhile and TNA has some decent players but it was foolish of them to try and compete w/ Vincent K.!!!

Chris Jericho is

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Chris Jericho is

Jericho is a beast, but out of WWE talent, Edge is bar none the best.


Overall in the wrestling injury calculating age, ability, talent, etc; It has to be AJ Styles unless you start nitpicking about his size he is only 31.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If Eddie had never passed wrestling would be completely different

 

[zrinkill]

Overall in the wrestling injury calculating age, ability, talent, etc; It has to be AJ Styles unless you start nitpicking about his size he is only 31.

Not even in the top 50.

Not even close.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Not even in the top 50.

Not even close.

Really now

Name someone under 32 with the same abilitys he has and is a first generation wrestler?

 

[zrinkill]

Really now

Name someone under 32 with the same abilitys he has

List is too long.

And who cares about first generation or not?

Tyson kidd
Carlos Colon
Kofi Sarkodie-Mensah
Primo Colon
Evan Bourne
John Morrison
Randy Orton
Yoshi Tatsu
Jacob Hager
Cody Rhodes
Phillip Brooks


And there are a lot more who are better at their Job than he is ..... Like John Cena, Ted Dibiase, and Stephen Farrelly.

He is not even the best on the TNA Roster

 

[Cowboy Brian]

List is too long.

And who cares about first generation or not?

Tyson kidd
Carlos Colon
Kofi Sarkodie-Mensah
Primo Colon
Evan Bourne
John Morrison
Randy Orton
Yoshi Tatsu
Jacob Hager
Cody Rhodes
Phillip Brooks


And there are a lot more who are better at their Job than he is ..... Like John Cena, Ted Dibiase, and Stephen Farrelly.

He is not even the best on the TNA Roster

You were just listing people, only Morrison has the complete package.

Orton is a scrub in the ring.

 

[zrinkill]

Orton is a scrub in the ring.

You know less about pro wrestling than you do Football.

Which is sad.

Any of the people I listed are at least equal to A.J. Styles in the ring ..... just because you put the word "Phenomenal" in his name does not hid the fact that he has the same talent as a WWE Jober.

Which is why anytime a WWE washout (Kennedy, Angle, RVD, Hardy) shows up ..... he gets pushed to the side once again.

They have to team him with 65 year old Ric Flair to give him any rub at all.

Ridiculous.

TNA would trade Styles for Orton in a heartbeat.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You know less about pro wrestling than you do Football.

Which is sad.

Any of the people I listed are at least equal to A.J. Styles in the ring ..... just because you put the word "Phenomenal" in his name does not hid the fact that he has the same talent as a WWE Jober.

Which is why anytime a WWE washout (Kennedy, Angle, RVD, Hardy) shows up ..... he gets pushed to the side once again.

They have to team him with 65 year old Ric Flair to give him any rub at all.

Ridiculous.

TNA would trade Styles for Orton in a heartbeat.

Whats actually sad is you know absolutely nothing about wrestling more than the names you just googled.

No one in their right minds that knew an ounce about what the professional wrestling product should be would say that AJ Styles was a jobber, let alone say that Randy Orton had in ring talent.'

I bet you think Stone Cold and The Rock had in ring talent aswell?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Styles is a great athlete, no doubt, but he's not anything special to watch when it comes to wrestling unless you're really impressed by all the flips and jumping and stuff.

The guy doesn't have all that great ring psychology, and often he doesn't sell realistically or properly.

Then you top it all off with the fact that he is absolutely horrendous on the mic and it makes AJ very average.

AJ is probably not even top 10 in TNA right now, let alone the best in all of wrestling.

 

[zrinkill]

Whats actually sad is you know absolutely nothing about wrestling more than the names you just googled.

No one in their right minds that knew an ounce about what the professional wrestling product should be would say that AJ Styles was a jobber, let alone say that Randy Orton had in ring talent.'

I bet you think Stone Cold and The Rock had in ring talent aswell?

I was watching wrestling a long time before you were born kid.

I have not missed an episode of Raw other than when I had deaths in the family in 17 years.

I never missed an episode of Nitro till it went under.

I watch TNA ..... its like watching ECW with a little more ring talent and a lot less Mic talent.

You are a TNA fanboy who knows nothing about the history of Wrestling.

Doubt you even know who the Von Erichs are ..... or the Junk Yard Dog ..... or the Freebirds ..... or who the Dingo Warrior was ..... Gary Hart ..... The Great Kabuki

You better wipe your nose before you try to match wrestling knowledge with me boy.

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[TellerMorrow34]

Whats actually sad is you know absolutely nothing about wrestling more than the names you just googled.

No one in their right minds that knew an ounce about what the professional wrestling product should be would say that AJ Styles was a jobber, let alone say that Randy Orton had in ring talent.'

I bet you think Stone Cold and The Rock had in ring talent aswell?

Actually Austin had excellent ring talent. The fact that you don't know this shows that you never saw anything of Austin outside of his Stone Cold run. The guy could flat out go and knew exactly how to work a match, even without all the flashy offense once he went into the Stone Cold character.


The Rock, while not a technically amazing wrestler, also had some serious ring talent from what he could to, to the knowledge of when and how to do it, to building a match beautifully, even to the art of selling, though sometimes he over sold things to a hilarious level.


The thing with ring talent in pro wrestling is that it's not just about the moves they can perform. Those are really the icing on the cake, so to speak. The art of wrestling, to being a great worker, comes from the wrestlers knowledge of what moves to use at what times, how to properly sell the emotion of the match, as well as the offense and defense of their opponent, and how to make it all come together in an amazing fashion.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

In fact go back to some of Austins WCW work, both in singles and in tag team action as one half of the Hollywood Blonds with Brian Pillman, and you'll find out that Austin was well versed in the ring and was actually a very, very good wrestler.

The Stone Cold character, that he's most known for, simply didn't need a bunch of moves or to be flashy. it wasn't what the fans wanted to see out of Austin either. That character wasn't about wrestling ability. It was about straight up, bar room, brawling and butt kicking.

It certainly got him over in a major way but its a shame that because of that so few people seem to realise just how good the guy really was in the ring because of how little the character called for him to do, in terms of the moves.

Either way he still knew how to put on a match, how to build it, how to sell it, all the stuff you need to make a match truly special or memorable.

Watch his I Quit match with Bret Hart from Wrestlemania 13. It's another fine example of some of the stuff that Austin had to offer that is often over looked, ignored, or forgotten because of the Stone Cold character.

 

[zrinkill]

The fact that you don't know this shows that you never saw anything of Austin outside of his Stone Cold run.

He was not born yet.

All he knows is TNA ..... all 7.5 years of it.

Which means he started watching it when he was 9.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I was watching wrestling a long time before you were born kid.

I have not missed an episode of Raw other than when I had deaths in the family in 17 years.

I never missed an episode of Nitro till it went under.

I watch TNA ..... its like watching ECW with a little more ring talent and a lot less Mic talent.

You are a TNA fanboy who knows nothing about the history of Wrestling.

Doubt you even know who the Von Erichs are ..... or the Junk Yard Dog ..... or the Freebirds ..... or who the Dingo Warrior was ..... Gary Hart ..... The Great Kabuki

You better wipe your nose before you try to match wrestling knowledge with me boy.

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I know every single one of the people who you mentioned.

Can you list every company Jim Cornette has had a significant impact in without googling, or searching otherwise? I can.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He was not born yet.

But he thinks he knows stuff because his little TNA website told him A.J. is Phenomenal.

:laugh1:

Yeah I realised he'd have missed a lot of it cause of age but as a wrestling fan a lot of folks go back and watch whatever they can to see who all was great and what made them great. Simply by doing a little bit of research you can easily find out that Austin was quite the in ring talent, which is why I was pointing out that it was obvious he'd not done his homework on Austin before making the claim that he wasn't an in ring talent.