TO looking like a declining player....

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Wait now it's cause Miles has a good QB? That's funny cause most of you TO backers always say, and try to claim, that Tony was only good cause of TO.

So which is it? Was it that TO makes bad QBs good? If that's the case then why hasn't he done that all year in Buffalo?

If it's that Tony was always a good QB then why does he need TO? We're in position to have every bit as good, if not better, a season as a team then we had when TO was yet you're trying to proclaim that this team would be better?

Heres the thing on that whole TO/Austin thing. If TO was here Austin WOULD NOT be starting. He WOULD NOT be any more than the #4 WR cause there is no way he would have been given spots over Crayton and Roy with TO here.

With TO here Austin would still be in the 4th spot getting spot duty on the field as a WR. Dallas is better off this year, and going forward, with TO gone and a 25 year old Miles Austin in the starting line up.

There is no way, at all, to make any claim that we'd be better, or would win championships, with TO. It didn't happen when he was here, or for any other team he's ever been part of for that matter, and it wouldn't do us any good to have an old TO here, keeping a much younger Austin on the bench.
 

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Hostile;3113229 said:
No, I don't agree with that at all. This team is accomplishing what they are because the attitude has changed. If it hadn't they would not be 8-3. No way, no shape, no how.

He needed to be gone, is gone, and we are better for it.

If we see 13-3 I will believe that...

that being said i hope we see 13-3 and 4 playoff games.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3113870 said:
Wait now it's cause Miles has a good QB? That's funny cause most of you TO backers always say, and try to claim, that Tony was only good cause of TO.

So which is it? Was it that TO makes bad QBs good? If that's the case then why hasn't he done that all year in Buffalo?

If it's that Tony was always a good QB then why does he need TO? We're in position to have every bit as good, if not better, a season as a team then we had when TO was yet you're trying to proclaim that this team would be better?

Heres the thing on that whole TO/Austin thing. If TO was here Austin WOULD NOT be starting. He WOULD NOT be any more than the #4 WR cause there is no way he would have been given spots over Crayton and Roy with TO here.

With TO here Austin would still be in the 4th spot getting spot duty on the field as a WR. Dallas is better off this year, and going forward, with TO gone and a 25 year old Miles Austin in the starting line up.

There is no way, at all, to make any claim that we'd be better, or would win championships, with TO. It didn't happen when he was here, or for any other team he's ever been part of for that matter, and it wouldn't do us any good to have an old TO here, keeping a much younger Austin on the bench.

Im not in that catergory. I think they were good for each other.
 

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dbair1967;3113391 said:
He never said Miles Austin would have, or is having a better carrer. He was saying Miles Austin is better than TO is right now, which is true.

Not entirely true. Miles is in a much better situation.
 

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thechosen1n2;3114186 said:
Not entirely true. Miles is in a much better situation.

Owens was here last yr, and Austin is playing eons better than Owens did last yr.

Owens is a run of the mill NFL player now with absolutely no upside. The right decision was made, and we're a better team because of it.
 

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thechosen1n2;3114186 said:
Not entirely true. Miles is in a much better situation.

but T.O. was in the better situation last season and now they are both in the situation they put themselves in.....
 

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thechosen1n2;3114180 said:
If we see 13-3 I will believe that...

that being said i hope we see 13-3 and 4 playoff games.
13-3 means I am right, but 12-4 wouldn't?

That doesn't make a lick of sense.

2009 team w/o Owens is better than the 2008 team w/ Owens. The main reason they are, no distractions. Main reason he was let go, distractions. It's really just that simple.
 

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Real talk, Owens at 36 is much much better than Roy Williams.

Doesn't mean he's worth the distractions, but in terms of production, talent, and playmaking ability he's better than Roy even at his age.

In his prime Owens was literally twice as good as Roy, more real talk.

Just sayin.
 

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Hostile;3114327 said:
13-3 means I am right, but 12-4 wouldn't?

That doesn't make a lick of sense.

2009 team w/o Owens is better than the 2008 team w/ Owens. The main reason they are, no distractions. Main reason he was let go, distractions. It's really just that simple.

come on hos...the 2009 team is better b/c Romo has not been hurt for 4 games. There is less distractions because no one is predicting superbowl before the season started and having cameras everywhere filming hardknocks. This Team is better b/c Free has filled in nicely on the right side, something that would not have happen last year. This team is better b/c Romo is not turning the ball over at an astronomical rate...the games he did we lost.

TO is not the end all be all but he blaming him for last years failures are ridiculous. A million injuries, and we missed the playoffs by 1 game. Not to mention Romo wasnt right when he came back. We at least win two more games with out all that, and if that happens no one is talking about a TO distraction problem. You can dispute that if you want to but everyone knows there is no untruth stated here.

Im not saying TO is the end all be all, but I say again he was not the problem last year.
 

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Black Book Red Carpet Events along with Tali Gore, "The Host of NY" Present "Terrell Owens Birthday Celebration"

NFL top wide receiver Terrell Owens will celebrate his birthday this year in New York. A six-time Pro Bowl selection, and holder of the league single-game reception record, Owens has been one of the dominant receivers of his era. The event will be attended by several NFL stars including some of his current and past teammates, a few celebrities and much more. Past guests include: Will Smith, Jamie Fox, Serena Williams, Michael Jordan, Paris Hilton, Jessica Simpson, Gabrielle Union, Vivica A. Fox, Jill Marie Jones, Elise Neal, Tasha Smith, Ludacris, Common, Tyrese, Brandy, Musiq Soulchild, Dougie Fresh, Deion Sanders, Michael Irvin, Tony Romo, Marion Barber and Roy Williams.

When:
Monday, December 7, 2009
Doors Open @ 10pm

Where:
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530 W. 28th Street, New York NY

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Note: Pre-sale tickets or VIP table reservations strongly suggested for guaranteed admission.

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I wonder if Romo will be there
 

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If we actually examine TO's production over the past two seasons -- rather than anecdotally extracting only the last two games -- we see that TO is clearly in decline.

Regardless of his attitude, his production simply didn't warrant his contract.

Oh, and before you wisenheimers play the Roy Williams card, let me ask you this: Would you want two overpaid receivers on the roster? At least Roy is still in his 20s.
 

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ScipioCowboy;3114695 said:
If we actually examine TO's production over the past two seasons -- rather than anecdotally extracting only the last two games -- we see that TO is clearly in decline.

Regardless of his attitude, his production simply didn't warrant his contract.

Oh, and before you wisenheimers play the Roy Williams card, let me ask you this: Would you want two overpaid receivers on the roster? At least Roy is still in his 20s.



You see that he is clearly in decline. Don't talk for me and the rest of us guy.
 

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stilltheguru;3114788 said:
You see that he is clearly in decline. Don't talk for me and the rest of us guy.

He gave you too much credit. He figured you had eyes and a brain.:laugh2:
 

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OMG Tony and Jessica will be there!!!!!!!!!

I hope they get back together, they made a lovely couple.
 
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ScipioCowboy;3114695 said:
If we actually examine TO's production over the past two seasons -- rather than anecdotally extracting only the last two games -- we see that TO is clearly in decline.

Regardless of his attitude, his production simply didn't warrant his contract.

Oh, and before you wisenheimers play the Roy Williams card, let me ask you this: Would you want two overpaid receivers on the roster? At least Roy is still in his 20s.


Wrong. Your hate blinds you. He put up all-pro numbers while he was here and was worth the money.

You would rather have an overpaid WR in his 20's who sucks over an "overpaid" WR at 36 who doesn't. Good thing you aren't running a team. They would call for your head.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;3114813 said:
Wrong. Your hate blinds you. He put up all-pro numbers while he was here and was worth the money.

You would rather have an overpaid WR in his 20's who sucks over an "overpaid" WR at 36 who doesn't. Good thing you aren't running a team. They would call for your head.

I would not want either as one sucks and the other is on the decline and a team cancer.

The thing that the TO lovers just don't grasp is, just because people are glad TO is gone, it does not mean they like Roy Williams or think Roy Williams is good.

TO is on the decline and combine that with him being a team cancer he was not worth his contract.

Now we don't have to constantly force the ball to one WR so they don't have a temper tantrum and create a boat load of turn overs just to satisfy his ego.

The ball gets spread around. Just because Roy Williams sucks and is overpaid it does not make it ok to want TO back when the team is just as good in some areas and MUCH better in other areas with him gone.

TO is gone and no amount of your whining and attention trolling will make a difference...get over it or at the very least be consistent and not wait until about the half way point before you start spouting off on the greatness of TO when he finally has a decent game or two for the season.

Your incessant whining and trolling is old.
 
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