To those claiming poor game management at the end of the game

[Rack]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

 

[jazzcat22]

Well said.

 

[Hoods]

I am a self proclaimed homer, sun-shine pumper, Jerry and Garret apologist, and realist-hater, but that was bad clock management. Yes, Garret was supposed to tell his players to not score or he should have called a couple knees for the go-ahead chip shot to win the game.

 

[trickblue]

I know for a fact that the run out of bounds play is a staple in the Garrett Game Management Manifest...

 

[cowboyblue22]

we have had so few wins this season personally I am just going to enjoy the win. The clock management wasn't so good but we won to me that's really th e important part. I know this team is not very good but the other teams in the division have only won 5 games so its not like they are setting the world on fire.

 

[Doc50]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

The wide run was a good call in that situation.

A smart back would have slid.

 

[LandryFan]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

Yep. Not smart of McFadden to go OB on his first run, but given that he did, you run again and score if you can, force them to use a TO if you can't.

 

[Tommy]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

I'm am always right about stuff like this and I agree 100%

 

[gmoney112]

Didn't we also run a play right before the 2 minute warning on that series? Not sure if that was on Jason or Matt, but I think they overthought themselves with the thinking "they're going to expect us to run it down, we'll catch them off guard". Unfortunately there, don't over complicate things.

It was absolutely Darren's fault. However, these guys are football players. A lot of them don't really understand situational football in the heat of the moment. The staff needs to realize the situation and emphasize running clock.

The Skins should never have gotten the ball back with that much time. That was just poor awareness. We won, but critical moments like those can change a game. Every coach is going to make mistakes though. Coughlin has 2 rings and has accounted for some egregious gaffes this season.

Maybe Jason let Matt and Darren make their own decisions there, in which case they had too much rope. In the future he needs to take control of his personnel and 're-emphasize the importance of time management to the warriors on the field that are full of testosterone and probably aren't thinking too clearly.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I agree with everything except making this a new thread.

 

[phildadon86]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

In that situation, they could have literally taken a knee 3 times, brought the clock down to around 10 seconds and been at the 20 yard line. Thats just my opinion.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

In that situation, they could have literally taken a knee 3 times, brought the clock down to around 10 seconds and been at the 20 yard line. Thats just my opinion.

a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown.

several false starts, holds, hands to the faces, stopping the clock.

from a statistical analysis, scoring a touchdown increased our likelihood of winning more then any other scenario.

 

[erod]

True, no coach should have to tell an 8-year veteran RB not to go out of bounds. The sad truth is, the NFL is replete with absolute idiots. They're an embarrassment to our Neanderthal ancestors.

I did have an issue with the short kickoff afteward. Couldn't decide if that was called, or if Bailey just missed it.

 

[Hoods]

a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown.

several false starts, holds, hands to the faces, stopping the clock.

from a statistical analysis, scoring a touchdown increased our likelihood of winning more then any other scenario.

Right, so given those factors, better to attempt a 54-yarder for the win vs. a 25-yarder for the win.

 

[JohnsKey19]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

If you're bold enough to run an outside running play in that situation, which is fine, then someone from the sideline(coach) definitely should have reminded the huddle(via Cassell) to not press it too hard near the sideline and get forced out of bounds. And the quick TD instantly boosted the Skins' chances. The priority should have been the clock in that situation, not yardage. Worst case scenario, you're stopped for minimal yardage but the Commanders have used their remaining timeouts and would only have approximately 25 seconds to drive down the field for a FG. HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Giving them 1:15 with 2 timeouts is an eternity.

So i hope someone from the sidelines had the awareness to remind the players on the field of the situation. Now if they did and McFadden simply paid it no mind, that reflects poorly on him.

 

[pancakeman]

I think there was a psychological intangible value to the touchdown there that was important for the team. You could see in the way they celebrated, that finally getting to the end zone, after having to settle for FGs all game (and in several previous games) was a huge boost. (And maybe not only for this game.)

I'm not saying Garrett played it right, but I would add that point to his side of the scales.

 

[Rack]

I agree with everything except making this a new thread.

I don't read every thread and didn't realize it was already discussed. I apologize profusely.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I don't read every thread and didn't realize it was already discussed. I apologize profusely.

you're good. the other thread was closed.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Did the Skins have 2 timeouts? I think Dallas had the ball at 1:26, if Skins had 2, the best the Cowboys could do without getting a 1st down was take the clock to about :35 left. They would be up 3 with a kickoff to come, that's decent amount of time left for just a tying fg.

They mismanaged the clock, but I'm not sure its that egregious. Up 7 with 1:16 left and kicking off deep with a touchback or solid coverage and no facemask and I like their chances to be honest, given the way the game had gone.

 

[iceberg]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

someone lobs out a nugget to hold onto, they do.

i'm not a huge fan of garrett but much like in the world of politics, if you already hate someone, finding fault is easy, even if wrong. (wrong being incorrect, not don't do it)