To those claiming poor game management at the end of the game

[thechosen1n2]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

The first thing I said was..."The coach needs to tell him to center the ball adn stay in bounds....That info should have be relayed Run up the gut again...Kneel it...what ever. Yes the coach is responsible for relaying that info, and he must do so.

 

[conner01]

I am a self proclaimed homer, sun-shine pumper, Jerry and Garret apologist, and realist-hater, but that was bad clock management. Yes, Garret was supposed to tell his players to not score or he should have called a couple knees for the go-ahead chip shot to win the game.

Like the chip shot FG in Seattle?
Nothing is a given in the nfl and when you can go up by 7 with a minute to go you do it
Had he took a knee and there was a bad snap or a block then fans would be calling that bad

 

[Sasquatch]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

I'll take a TD from this offense whenever they can give me one.

 

[JoeKing]

McFadden ran hard toward the sideline to go up the seem on the edge. He didn't run out of bounds, he was forced out of bounds. Watch the play again and stop complaining about time management after a win. Scoring a TD is never a bad thing so stop complaining about that too.

 

[Nightman]

Like the chip shot FG in Seattle?
Nothing is a given in the nfl and when you can go up by 7 with a minute to go you do it
Had he took a knee and there was a bad snap or a block then fans would be calling that bad

NO tried to play the clock game with us and attempted the game winning FG on 3rd down instead of going for the TD. They missed the chippy FG.

They got lucky and won in OT when Hitchens git hurt and Spiller beat Wilson down the sideline.

 

[Nightman]

Did the Skins have 2 timeouts? I think Dallas had the ball at 1:26, if Skins had 2, the best the Cowboys could do without getting a 1st down was take the clock to about :35 left. They would be up 3 with a kickoff to come, that's decent amount of time left for just a tying fg.

They mismanaged the clock, but I'm not sure its that egregious. Up 7 with 1:16 left and kicking off deep with a touchback or solid coverage and no facemask and I like their chances to be honest, given the way the game had gone.

We had a 99.8% chance of winning after the TD. It doesn't get much better.
Even after Bailey's FG with 14 secs left we still had the same 99.8% chance of winning.

Plus the best WAS could do is tie. It was possible they scored and we still had enough time to win before and in OT and that is exactly what happened.

 

[cowboys1981]

Clock says we won. Enjoy the victory.

I'm looking at that clock too with my rose colored glasses on while drinking my koolaid.

 

[mmohican29]

Did the Skins have 2 timeouts? I think Dallas had the ball at 1:26, if Skins had 2, the best the Cowboys could do without getting a 1st down was take the clock to about :35 left. They would be up 3 with a kickoff to come, that's decent amount of time left for just a tying fg.

They mismanaged the clock, but I'm not sure its that egregious. Up 7 with 1:16 left and kicking off deep with a touchback or solid coverage and no facemask and I like their chances to be honest, given the way the game had gone.

The clock was horribly mismanaged. McFadden CAN NOT go OB. Under any circumstance.... but, he did so:

Next play @ 2nd and 1 is a yard and get down. QB sneak? TO. Wash. 1:12
1st :Next play? Kneel down. TO. Wash. 1:10 Skins out of TO's
2nd: Next play? Kneel down, call own time out @ 22 seconds left
3rd:kneel and take delay of game or call own time out (last)
Dal @ 4th and Goal: FG @ 2 seconds.

 

[BAT]

Didn't we also run a play right before the 2 minute warning on that series? Not sure if that was on Jason or Matt, but I think they overthought themselves with the thinking "they're going to expect us to run it down, we'll catch them off guard". Unfortunately there, don't over complicate things.

It was absolutely Darren's fault. However, these guys are football players. A lot of them don't really understand situational football in the heat of the moment. The staff needs to realize the situation and emphasize running clock.

The Skins should never have gotten the ball back with that much time. That was just poor awareness. We won, but critical moments like those can change a game. Every coach is going to make mistakes though. Coughlin has 2 rings and has accounted for some egregious gaffes this season.

Maybe Jason let Matt and Darren make their own decisions there, in which case they had too much rope. In the future he needs to take control of his personnel and 're-emphasize the importance of time management to the warriors on the field that are full of testosterone and probably aren't thinking too clearly.

This does not get enough attention. Players lack situational awareness because it is not reinforced properly or consistently by the coaching staff. Not bleeding clock to 2 minute time out and failing to stay in bounds with over minute left while in red zone was pure stupidity. All those back to back ST penalties to start the game was mind numbing as well. Credit where credit is due tho, the D was near elite for 59 minutes. Marinelli had a very good game plan.

 

[rpntex]

In that situation, they could have literally taken a knee 3 times, brought the clock down to around 10 seconds and been at the 20 yard line. Thats just my opinion.

Nope. 1:26 when Jackson fumbled. Two kneel-downs - followed by the Commanders using their TOs - would have taken the clock down to about 1:20. Third kneel-down comes then, and the 40-second play clock starts immediately on the ref's whistle. Garrett calls TO to set up the FG with about 36-38 seconds remaining. FG and ensuing kickoff takes it down to 25 seconds. They're a FG down, and one play away from a FG attempt. The odds are long, but entirely possible.

I can see taking a need three times if you're talking about a minute or less left on the clock, but not one and a half as the case was. In that situation, you need a first down at the very least, and there's always an argument for scoring a touchdown if you have the opportunity.

 

[Sportsbabe]

How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

He explained it today. I accept the answer. The plan was to do the RIGHT thing. RDMC blew up the plan.

 

[Hoods]

Like the chip shot FG in Seattle?
Nothing is a given in the nfl and when you can go up by 7 with a minute to go you do it
Had he took a knee and there was a bad snap or a block then fans would be calling that bad

We had to kick on a field goal to win the game anyway. I don't know about you but I go for the 25-yarder over the 54-yarder every day of the week and twice on Sunday's.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Similar thread just got shut down.

I totally disagree with that mods it was a good discussion. You can pull the few posters who went too far without shutting down all discussion.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[conner01]

We had to kick on a field goal to win the game anyway. I don't know about you but I go for the 25-yarder over the 54-yarder every day of the week and twice on Sunday's.

Only because you had no other choice

 

[trickblue]

Love the post but as for you sig. The outcome of the civil war and Texas v White is what it is. It's not that simple and would lead to war. If you want to hope that the national guard flips or otherwise popular uprising when the federals come then good luck with that. Just don't call it simple.

It's not a statement of secession on my part, but rather showing that Texas is an integral part of the USA...

 

[TheDude]

It wasn't good clock management; Jerry admitted as much. It's possible to concede Garrett made a mistake without thinking he should be fired.

nope Even Garret can say ideally, paramount, and practice that situation and then say "but football team plays football and stuff. Football play was called becasue it is the National Football League MNF game" and you sstill have many that are "Yeah...Thats the ticket."

 

[cowboys1981]

He explained it today. I accept the answer. The plan was to do the RIGHT thing. RDMC blew up the plan.

He blew it up big time running out of bounds and he won't shoulder any blame because we didn't do any hand holding and tell him about staying in bounds.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown.

several false starts, holds, hands to the faces, stopping the clock.

from a statistical analysis, scoring a touchdown increased our likelihood of winning more then any other scenario.

While I was ok with us scoring, mainly because I think Washington let us score and I would never turn down a free go ahead TD, statistically I can't imagine a FG from that range after running the clock down was not the highest percentage chance of winning.

 

[cml750]

I'm am always right about stuff like this and I agree 100%

Ok, I literally lol'ed.

 

[btcutter]

Right, so given those factors, better to attempt a 54-yarder for the win vs. a 25-yarder for the win.

How about special team not give up a big return and commit personal foul first. Then defense not give up a TD and close the deal for once? Your offense gave you a 7 point lead for once with less than 80 seconds. Make a stop for god sake.