To those claiming poor game management at the end of the game

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How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

I'm not sure who you're referring to but I was clearly all over DMC for being a big dummy on that 1st down run. Just wanted to be clear. Dude should be smart enough to fall down in bounds. Crap like that loses games.

Now.. The coaches? That's a whole different chapter in a completely different book.
 

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The clock management before that is what I have an issue with.

It was first down on about the 45 yard line with 2:22 left in the game. There is ZERO reason to snap the ball before the 2 minute warning there. Especially when you have 2 timeouts left. To me you have to not only play to win he game but ensure that if you are forced to punt that the Commanders dont have time left to win it either. We got lucky that DeSean is a fool.
 

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How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".
I agree with practically everything here but I point the finger more at special teams and Wilcox than the defense near the end of the game. Kickoff coverage should have been better. The returner shouldn't have gotten near midfield but poor kick coverage was compounded by a bonehead facemask penalty by Wilcox. Washington shouldn't have had an opportunity to start their final drive in Dallas territory. Then again, Claiborne may have gotten toasted no matter where Washington had started that drive.
 

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I'm not sure who you're referring to but I was clearly all over DMC for being a big dummy on that 1st down run. Just wanted to be clear. Dude should be smart enough to fall down in bounds. Crap like that loses games.

Now.. The coaches? That's a whole different chapter in a completely different book.
McFadden does not have an excuse for not making the smart play and falling down inbounds but there may be an explanation for why he ran out of bounds. Yes, it was a stupid move (which I almost picked up and threw something at my television when he did it) but McFadden had already coughed up two fumbles. Maybe he didn't wish risking a third fumble happening that close to the endzone. It's easy and probably true that he was stupid at the end of his run but it's possible he was being overly cautious. Thankfully for him everything worked out in the end. The same cannot be said for that idiot Desean "Tecmo Bowl is my name" Jackson.
 

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Giant's mistake wasn't telling the team not to score but Eli trying to pass and throwing the ball away when pressured which stop the clock.

Funny you mentioned the Giants. You'd think JG would have learned from them and just run the clock out as much as possible.

Even with DMAC's mistake, we could have run the clock down to less than 20 seconds before going for the FG.
 

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I know for a fact that the run out of bounds play is a staple in the Garrett Game Management Manifest...

Love the post but as for you sig. The outcome of the civil war and Texas v White is what it is. It's not that simple and would lead to war. If you want to hope that the national guard flips or otherwise popular uprising when the federals come then good luck with that. Just don't call it simple.
 

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The clock management before that is what I have an issue with.

It was first down on about the 45 yard line with 2:22 left in the game. There is ZERO reason to snap the ball before the 2 minute warning there. Especially when you have 2 timeouts left. To me you have to not only play to win he game but ensure that if you are forced to punt that the Commanders dont have time left to win it either. We got lucky that DeSean is a fool.

Wasn't it really, really close though, considering that they aren't watching a TV on the sidelines where you can see both clocks at the same time? It seems like they had no choice but to try to snap it as late as possible and hope that it was called off.
 

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They could have called a run up the middle and not a run play to the outside. Just a thought.
 

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a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown.

several false starts, holds, hands to the faces, stopping the clock.

from a statistical analysis, scoring a touchdown increased our likelihood of winning more then any other scenario.

Not really. From that point it is essentially an extra point (from the old distance) which is damn near 100% probability - (99.6% in 2014). Basically there was about a 1 in 250 chance that they somehow don't end up winning the game on the play (and that would not preclude them from winning later). There is a FAR greater chance a team scores a TD with over a minute and 2 timeouts.
 

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I agree with practically everything here but I point the finger more at special teams and Wilcox than the defense near the end of the game. Kickoff coverage should have been better. The returner shouldn't have gotten near midfield but poor kick coverage was compounded by a bonehead facemask penalty by Wilcox. Washington shouldn't have had an opportunity to start their final drive in Dallas territory. Then again, Claiborne may have gotten toasted no matter where Washington had started that drive.

This.
 

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I am a self proclaimed homer, sun-shine pumper, Jerry and Garret apologist, and realist-hater, but that was bad clock management. Yes, Garret was supposed to tell his players to not score or he should have called a couple knees for the go-ahead chip shot to win the game.

hell, what was McFadden doing going out of bounds?

I thought we would just fall on it three times and kick a FG with 25 seconds to go
 

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The wide run was a good call in that situation.

A smart back would have slid.

If he slid it would be 2nd and 5 and you would be kicking a FG with the same amount of time left and DJ beats us with a TD!
 

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If he slid it would be 2nd and 5 and you would be kicking a FG with the same amount of time left and DJ beats us with a TD!

No, it would have been closer to 2nd and 3, and the next run would have netted a first down either way.

It's difficult to turn back time in these situations.

I think it is fair to say that JG has been well short of a game and clock management guru, and this incident does nothing to change that reputation.
 

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McFadden does not have an excuse for not making the smart play and falling down inbounds but there may be an explanation for why he ran out of bounds. Yes, it was a stupid move (which I almost picked up and threw something at my television when he did it) but McFadden had already coughed up two fumbles. Maybe he didn't wish risking a third fumble happening that close to the endzone. It's easy and probably true that he was stupid at the end of his run but it's possible he was being overly cautious. Thankfully for him everything worked out in the end. The same cannot be said for that idiot Desean "Tecmo Bowl is my name" Jackson.

DeSean ran all the way to China... lol
 

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Forget all that, I am very upset with Garrett for not telling the ST players to tackle the guy with the ball as quickly as possible and for not taking Wilcox aside and tell him do not pull on any players facemask. What kind of coach lets his players do that???

But I might fire the DC for not doubling Jackson on that last drive. That's for real. They have one threat. ONE. And you leave him with man coverage, when none of our DB can are as fast as he is. The same WR that has made a living being faster than everyone else in the league and being able to run by deep coverage. Yea, let's not double him, they won't be looking for him. That was dumber than anything that happened before then and its not even close.

But we won. And I am happy. Hey we have a divison to win, so let's get back to it!!
 

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How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1? ....

Is that you, Ross Tucker?
 
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