To those claiming poor game management at the end of the game

Irvin88_4life

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How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

I blame special teams for giving up the ball at almost the 50 yard line. That made for a short field and Marinelli leaving Claiborne 1 on 1 with no help against Jackson who was looking to redeem himself. It started with the kickoff and return then face mask on Wilcox in the return for another 15 yards after run
 

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article48718010.html

this is jason explaining it, and it is kinda funny lol.
one thing he said is :
In my mind, what we wanted to do was play football at that point. We felt like they were going to play football.:huh::huh:

We have a play in place where you say, ‘Make the first down, but don’t score the touchdown.’ We work on that a lot.:omg:

Evidently they need to watch the tape and work on it some more ??

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article48718010.html#storylink=cpy


Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article48718010.html#storylink=cpy
 

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the coach is responsible for the play on the field, we had so many embarrassing mistakes and gaffes I lost count
 

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Wasn't it really, really close though, considering that they aren't watching a TV on the sidelines where you can see both clocks at the same time? It seems like they had no choice but to try to snap it as late as possible and hope that it was called off.

No, there was a few seconds difference between the game and play clock.
 

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article48718010.html

this is jason explaining it, and it is kinda funny lol.
one thing he said is :
In my mind, what we wanted to do was play football at that point. We felt like they were going to play football.:huh::huh:

We have a play in place where you say, ‘Make the first down, but don’t score the touchdown.’ We work on that a lot.:omg:

Evidently they need to watch the tape and work on it some more ??

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article48718010.html#storylink=cpy


Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article48718010.html#storylink=cpy

evidently you need to work on reading comprehension, that article was crystal clear.

the Commanders were stuffing our short run game all day, they did not feel they could call a play to run for just enough for the first down. they decided to play football, as in don't worry about down and distance, and play smash mouth football. score the touchdown, and the worst case scenario is overtime.
 

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evidently you need to work on reading comprehension, that article was crystal clear.

the Commanders were stuffing our short run game all day, they did not feel they could call a play to run for just enough for the first down. they decided to play football, as in don't worry about down and distance, and play smash mouth football. score the touchdown, and the worst case scenario is overtime.

That's what I got from it. Score the touchdown and then trust your defense to make a stop. What people usually want here every week is for JG to play for the win and trust his team. Now that he does it it was the wrong move.

If trying to get the first down without scoring didn't work out we would be reading "Garrett got cute again" threads. It's a lose/lose situation on this forum. Every call he makes is the wrong one on CowboysZone. :thumbup:
 

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It's not a statement of secession on my part, but rather showing that Texas is an integral part of the USA...

Fair enough. Another way to interpret the picture is that you can simply take Texas out of the union and things would be exactly the same though. I am en guarde because I keep hearing what I'm talking about at the local ice house and job site with Super Tuesday just around the corner.
 

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How is the RB running out of bounds poor game managementioned (by the coach)?

You think he specifically told him to run out of bounds?

What was Garrett supposed to do on the next play? Tell him to not score, specifically? How did that work out for the Giants in week 1?

I understand the best case scenario would be for McFadden to stay in bounds and for them to score a td on third down, but this team isn't good enough to try and control a situation like that. You call the dang run, hope for forward progress, but no td (till third down) but you DO NOT tell the dang RB not to score.

We were up by TD with about a minute left and they tied the game. Blame the freaking defense for rolling over for them, not the offense cuz it had the audacity to score a TD "too soon".

I disagree! I think that is part of this teams problem they have no football down and distance awareness. If i recall correctly we only needed 2 yards for a first down. In my opinion Darren needs to know that and their timeout situation which they had 2. But if he goes down after the line to gain was achieved then it's first and goal from the what 3 or 4? With roughly a minute and some change remaining? I would kneel, make them burn a Time out, Kneel, ELt them burn the last Time out, then kneel and let the clock run. Then on fourth i would let the clock run then call a Time out of our own and kick the FG.
 

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I disagree! I think that is part of this teams problem they have no football down and distance awareness. If i recall correctly we only needed 2 yards for a first down. In my opinion Darren needs to know that and their timeout situation which they had 2. But if he goes down after the line to gain was achieved then it's first and goal from the what 3 or 4? With roughly a minute and some change remaining? I would kneel, make them burn a Time out, Kneel, ELt them burn the last Time out, then kneel and let the clock run. Then on fourth i would let the clock run then call a Time out of our own and kick the FG.

What if he goes down short of the first down or is looking for the line and gets the ball stripped again? DAL kicks a FG with a over a minute left and we lose when DJackson beats Claiborne.

Going down on purpose isn't a natural football play and goes against all his muscle memory and training his whole life.
 

DEMFAN

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What if he goes down short of the first down or is looking for the line and gets the ball stripped again? DAL kicks a FG with a over a minute left and we lose when DJackson beats Claiborne.

Going down on purpose isn't a natural football play and goes against all his muscle memory and training his whole life.

It's knowing down and distance. Smart players do it . Did you see the rookie for the Rams this year? He did it McCoy does it. If he gets stripped again that's a ball security issue. Hold it high and tight! But hey we won do I am happy! It worked out.
 

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Clock says we won. Enjoy the victory.

Jerry doesn't appear to be enjoying the victory very much. Looked pissed in the postgame interview, said the team looked like a high school team, openly questioned the play calling, and has stated that losing 7 consecutive games without Romo was primarily due to bad coaching
 

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We had to kick on a field goal to win the game anyway. I don't know about you but I go for the 25-yarder over the 54-yarder every day of the week and twice on Sunday's.

Darn right there is a difference… As far as the 25 yard or is concerned, the Cowboys have a choice of kicking it or trying to score a touchdown. The 54 yarder? The Cowboys had no choice. It's utterly stupid to compare the two situations.
 

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Darn right there is a difference… As far as the 25 yard or is concerned, the Cowboys have a choice of kicking it or trying to score a touchdown. The 54 yarder? The Cowboys had no choice. It's utterly stupid to compare the two situations.

What was stupid was leaving Washington time to score a game tying TD when they didn't have enough timeouts to stop Dallas from milking the clock down to 20 seconds. That is football 101, you milk the time down and kick what was basically an old school extra point for the victory.

It was so stupid a decision by Garrett that even Jerry Jones is openly questioning the playcalling and clock management.
 

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My playcalling in that situation would have been: knee, knee, knee, walk off FG

And if they had done that and the FG had been blocked, or there was a bad snap then fans would be screaming we should have scored the td
No matter which way we had played it, the bottom line is if it hadn't worked fans would be calling it a mistake
 

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Darn right there is a difference… As far as the 25 yard or is concerned, the Cowboys have a choice of kicking it or trying to score a touchdown. The 54 yarder? The Cowboys had no choice. It's utterly stupid to compare the two situations.

And why didn't they have a choice? Oh yeah, because they chose not to run the clock down earlier.
 

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And if they had done that and the FG had been blocked, or there was a bad snap then fans would be screaming we should have scored the td
No matter which way we had played it, the bottom line is if it hadn't worked fans would be calling it a mistake

Not really. You have to understand that it's the right call, and if **** happened, **** happened, but doesn't mean that at the time it wasn't the right decision or that you should shy away from making it next time.

What if Dallas scored the TD, Commanders march down, and score a TD with the time expiring and then go for 2 and make it? If you're talking what ifs...

I'm pretty sure Jerry, like anyone who has a common sense of game management, would understand that that was the right coaching decision even if the FG gets blocked or whatever. He sure as hell wouldn't be livid like he clearly was at the coaching blunder committed by JG because this wouldn't actually be a coaching blunder.
 
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And if they had done that and the FG had been blocked, or there was a bad snap then fans would be screaming we should have scored the td
No matter which way we had played it, the bottom line is if it hadn't worked fans would be calling it a mistake

My question would be more of a "who do you trust more" scenario. The defense or the FG unit. There was very little doubt in my mind that the game would be tied after we left them with a minute and a half and 2 timeouts in their pocket. I just didn't expect us to have such a great KO return and so much time on our end.

The other side of the bad decisions IMO is that it's 2nd and 2 at the 36 yd line (Well inside of Bailey's comfort zone) you have a timeout left, and you know Washington will be bringing the house. Why do you even attempt to throw the ball once, let alone twice! You're not going to score a TD on quick outs to Witten and those 2 extra yards are meaningless as far as the FG is concerned (52yd vs 50yd). Why even leave the 9 seconds on the clock with those two plays? Run a quick hitting run play, let the clock run down and kick the FG with no time left.
 
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