Twitter: Todd Archer: Quick thoughts on last drive

RonnieT24

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I really appreciate everyone's posts, but did anyone notice that Terrance Steele didn't even look as if he was putting forth any kind of effort whatsoever. DC has to realize the liability. I'm in your corner if you go down fighting and his effort was an embarrassment.
I don't think it was effort. I think his surgically repaired leg is not up to full strength and eventually it just won't even work properly for him. The Cowboys were dumb not to sub for him though.
 

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Your stupid Todd - 5 yards makes no difference on the last play. The Eagles still set up at the goal line and the ball is put in the exact same place!!!
The irony.
 

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In the moment I liked the no-spike play attempt. but realizing now that having additional time and potentially another play was preferable
 

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Hill is the best player in the league with the ball in his hands. Ferguson is developing into a good TE but he’s not the athlete hill is and that’s why that play worked
I think they’re comparable and Ferguson is getting better.
 

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There are no rational excuses for the last series of plays, other than under coached.
Along with poor decisions and horrible reads by our 8 year rookie who struggles with throws 15 yds and over.
 

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because our coaches don't plan for worst case scenario. they don't think ahead.
Way beyond that our owner doesn't think of the worst scenario which we are always in at the end of big games.
When you have a stupid coach players with a low football IQ it's best to have a powerhouse offensive line and a power running game keep it simple.

When we had that we played our best football
 

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20 things could have gone differently, and you win the game but this a great NFCE road game versus a Super Bowl team.
No need to make excuses or split hairs.
Get better where you were obviously not good enough and go beat the Giants.
Can worry about the rematch later in the season.

Must develop a semblance of a running game and get better RT blocking going forward.
 

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20 things could have gone differently, and you win the game but this a great NFCE road game versus a Super Bowl team.
No need to make excuses or split hairs.
Get better where you were obviously not good enough and go beat the Giants.
Can worry about the rematch later in the season.

Must develop a semblance of a running game and get better RT blocking going forward.
Both points of focus are highly relevant right now...some opponents are really competitive and coming up after Thanksgiving.
 

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Way beyond that our owner doesn't think of the worst scenario which we are always in at the end of big games.
When you have a stupid coach players with a low football IQ it's best to have a powerhouse offensive line and a power running game keep it simple.

When we had that we played our best football
exactly, our owner plays fantasy football. but hey, his franchise is #1 most valuable in any sport. that's all he cares about.
 

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It’s so easy to set back and watch from sidelines birdseye view. When your QB and having to run for your life on most plays it’s different. But why in the world Fergie didn’t get the playcall is beyond me. Wasted play at the worst time. Then you get sacked and an easy call on shot to the head not called. And another easy call for Pi when the defender is tackling the TE before he even gets the ball..
 

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exactly, our owner plays fantasy football. but hey, his franchise is #1 most valuable in any sport. that's all he cares about.
It seems like that's how Jerry and his players calculate wins.

It's all about who makes the most money who's able to market their brand and stay relevant and on the players part that means prolonging your career at all costs.

Jerry fully understands that a silver trophy of a football with some other coaches name on it that none of the players now even remember who Vince Lombardi is means nothing compared to having your team on television every week and staying relevant.

Likewise the players understand that a piece of jewelry is nothing more than a trinket compared to not risking injury and extending their career a few years the millions made there far outweigh a piece of jewelry
 

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It seems like that's how Jerry and his players calculate wins.

It's all about who makes the most money who's able to market their brand and stay relevant and on the players part that means prolonging your career at all costs.

Jerry fully understands that a silver trophy of a football with some other coaches name on it that none of the players now even remember who Vince Lombardi is means nothing compared to having your team on television every week and staying relevant.

Likewise the players understand that a piece of jewelry is nothing more than a trinket compared to not risking injury and extending their career a few years the millions made there far outweigh a piece of jewelry
Jerry has too chumy relationship with the players and they by pass the coaches. its in the culture and coaches are aware and it impacts on how they run the team and decisions they make. any coach in dallas has to account for jerry meddling.

Jerry is the ultimate salesman. he reacts to market and between his Role as an Owner and Role as a GM, the owner always wins. he generates hope. he puts teams together that are good, but not good enough. he is a risk taker, so he takes risks with no back up plans (Pollard, Steele). he hopes players are to be something they may not reach. he counts on all his moves to work out 100%, where reality says best case scenario, its about 60% of them work out.

and you are right, we have a country club atmosphere and the focus is not win at all costs. its win so we look good and talked about. Jerry said, being in the news, good or bad is more important than anything else. that's how he runs the organization and players do the same
 

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Re the sack: In fairness, Dak had only a split-second to react. Lucky it wasn't a fumble. That one's totally on the RT.

On the final pass, it looked to me like #87 was favorably situated well near the back of the end zone, beyond Cee Dee's short-of-goal line position. Would have preferred to see the ball go there under the circumstances.
100% on point you don't realize how fast that really happened with the entire line basically being allowed to come right at him he could have easily had the ball tipped up in the air had he tried to throw it it could have been knocked out of his hand that's why he took the sack it happens sorry but he's not Superman and everyone around here no matter how good he plays we're still talking about the damn quarterback!!! Yes it's unfortunate he stepped out of bounds on a two point conversion yes that's unfortunate his offensive line is bottom 10 in the league right now I don't wanna hear about how we're top five because some analytics say so no that is what we call a curve you know like in school with grades just because two players may be grading out well it makes the rest of them look good well I'm gonna tell you right now the problem with this team has been in the playoffs we have a less than stellar offensive line show up we have no run game we play 1 dimensional football and then we blame the quarterback for all the problems and look back at 2018 2021-2022 playoffs check out the 49er game and now the eagle game and you're gonna find out there is a common denominator

weak OL play see too many penalty's no run game 2 secs to throw..

No run game had to say it twice you cannot win big games playing one-dimensional football it gets you in trouble every time..

inconsistent defense- yes 200 yards on the ground in the Rams game big plays giving up early on like 10 yards per carry in the 2020 140 niner game and yes even last year as good as they played against the 49ers in the playoff game they gave up big plays they didn't seek and execute every opportunity that was in front of them... In the 49er game this year they didn't show up at all and against the Eagles they were inconsistent at best you can't call yourself championship defense giving up 28 points.. There's no one to blame in this game this was an Eagles game and with the offense did not turn the ball over the special teams did not turn the ball over you just simply gave up too many long scoring drives period end of story the most overrated defense of all time in my opinion..

so, if your expectations is Prescott should be Superman be the most elite player in the league like Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady put together, yes sure that that we should be very disappointed in Prescott for not being able to win these big games on his own... we're asking him to be perfect...​
If you need your quarterback to save you in every big game the team is not good the team is not as good as people are trying to say online like how great this defense was supposed to be that all we had to do was play safe conservative football on offense well what is Prescott done this year except for not turning the ball over and do everything he can to get away from the pressure and still at least get some positive yards...​

Again, it's unfortunate that Prescott didn't play perfect and stepped out of bounds or couldn't avoid some of the sacks or get the ball to a deeper better option but that all starts up front...needigm 29 points to win is on the defense...
 

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Re the sack: In fairness, Dak had only a split-second to react. Lucky it wasn't a fumble. That one's totally on the RT.

On the final pass, it looked to me like #87 was favorably situated well near the back of the end zone, beyond Cee Dee's short-of-goal line position. Would have preferred to see the ball go there under the circumstances.
Here's the problem when you have two seconds to throw the football in a situation where they know you're gonna throw the football and all night the offensive line was terrible I mean you have to make a quicker than normal decision there is no time to sit back there and look at your second or third option he literally snapped the ball seeing the play through the ball and hope for the best that's what happens at the end of games when it's this close and your defense can't stop anyone and your offensive line created no run lanes and the offensive line only gave him about two seconds to throw the ball which is terrible that extra .8 to 1.8 seconds matters a lot when you're under fire in a real live game and not sitting there from the sidelines with the hindsight and being able to rewatch the play they're all gonna see this and maybe can adjust to it next time once they watch the game film but right in the game you cannot have it your way every time...
 

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I'd ask why after seeing Steele struggle they didn't get him some help in a moment when the worst thing you can do other than a turnover is take a sack?
Not sure if it was that play.....but a clip/screen shot was posted with steele getting beat....and pollard was just standing there. That should have been the help you say was needed and tony blew it.
 
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