Tolbert = Cobb/Beasley

[big dog cowboy]

Why would he be having more success in KC?

Andy Reid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike McCarthy

Since they traded Hill their WR corp has average at best.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Andy Reid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike McCarthy

Since they traded Hill their WR corp has average at best.

I'd too would take Andy Reid over McCarthy 8 days a week, dont get me wrong, but KC is averaging 225 pass yards per game this season after using their 1st round pick on a WR and trading for DHop. Hardman, Watson, JuJu, Moore, MVS have all been pretty mid to bad with KC. When they traded fro Kadarius Toney a lot of people thought he would turn into a pro bowl talent in that offense but it never happened.

Overall Dallas is only trailing KC by about 10 yards per game as an offense and is throwing for about 7 more yards per game than KC. I think this idea that Andy Reid is running laps around the rest of the league with his pass scheme isnt accurate the last couple years.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

Just like so many other players, Tolbert has been mismanaged by McCarthy.

Just imagine the kind of year he would be having in KC for example under Andy Reid.

Mahomes might be the difference that you failed to mention........

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Give Andy Reid Cooper Rush and he wouldn't look like Andy Reid.

My God, man.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I like Tolbert and the work he’s put in. If he can be a guy who can get you 50- 60 catches with 6 TD’s a year that’s good production, especially for a guy who was written off after his rookie year.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I like Tolbert and the work he’s put in. If he can be a guy who can get you 50- 60 catches with 6 TD’s a year that’s good production, especially for a guy who was written off after his rookie year.

Yeah I think he has a role, I just hope they don't write him in as Cooks replacement as WR2 and think they're good to go.

 

[InPhiltraitor]

He’s a really nice #3. Has impressively developed Gallup body awareness with similar toe drag swag.

Cowboys get a compliment to Lamb and they would be twice as good on the perimeter.

Like the comment regarding more chemistry between Rush & Tolbert.

 

[Proof]

Just like so many other players, Tolbert has been mismanaged by McCarthy.

Just imagine the kind of year he would be having in KC for example under Andy Reid.

just out of curiosity who else has mccarthy mismanaged? and what kind of year do you think tolbert would be having in kc?

 

[tm1119]

.....but he seems to getting better results with Rush. Honest question, can some of this improvement be attributed to a QB that can go through a progression. Is that on Mike or Dak?

Tolbert in 8 games with Dak- 30 catches, 353 yards, 3 TD’s

7 games with Rush- 12 catches, 129 yards, 3 TD’s

Weird…doesn’t seems like your completely made up narrative is true

 

[America's Cowboy]

Sean McVay a Kyle Shanahan even Kingsbury in Wash would find Tolbert steady work in there offenses if he wasn’t in Dallas . I honestly think Brooks Flournoy and Tolbert look better under Rush .

One thing Prescott can learn looking at Rush is get rid of the ball . Stop getting trapped behind the line . Whoever runs Dallas offense next year I hope they spread the ball around in the passing game and it’s a quick release offense.

Here are some of Dak Prescott's average times to throw per year:

• 2023: 2.37 seconds, the fastest time of his career
• 2022: 2.72 seconds
• 2021: 2.75 seconds
• 2020: 2.77 seconds
• 2019: 2.88 seconds
• 2018: 2.82 seconds

Pretty sure last year's increased quick release time had to do with McCarthy's new Texas Coast Offense and our Oline being healthier than they have been for most of this season until lately.

 

[MarcusRock]

Tolbert in 8 games with Dak- 30 catches, 353 yards, 3 TD’s

7 games with Rush- 12 catches, 129 yards, 3 TD’s

Weird…doesn’t seems like your completely made up narrative is true

Lol, got 'em. Never change, CowboysZone. Never change.

 

[big dog cowboy]

just out of curiosity who else has mccarthy mismanaged?

Who else has McCarthy mismanaged? That is a long list. Tolbert, Deuce, Luepke, Lance, Mazi, Juanyeh.........

 

[goshann]

lol he isn’t like Beasley at all. Beasley was a shifty slot who ran great routes and got open all the time

He isn’t like twill. Twill was a speed rcvr who could catch the sideline pass

Tolbert is a mediocre number 3. He’s average at everything. Not great at anything

 

[Proof]

Who else has McCarthy mismanaged? That is a long list. Tolbert, Deuce, Luepke, Lance, Mazi, Juanyeh.........

i'm not sure that's the case personally. tolbert is doing well in his role, luepke i'd like to see more of, but in place of who? and what has he shown? how have mazi and juanyeh been mismanaged? deuce... man i'm a fan, but i don't see it.

 

[Proof]

Mahomes might be the difference that you failed to mention........

the thing is, other than rashee rice for a season and juju for another, no non tyreek or kelce pass catchers have had better numbers than tolbert is putting up this year. and this year kelce's numbers are barely better.

 

[thunderpimp91]

the thing is, other than rashee rice for a season and juju for another, no non tyreek or kelce pass catchers have had better numbers than tolbert is putting up this year. and this year kelce's numbers are barely better.

Yeah KC is not just this magical place where WRs go to have put up massive numbers. They have a lot more failures at WR than successes the last couple years.

 

[Chuck 54]

Tolbert cannot get open unless the D blows coverage or Mike schemes him open. Scheming is reserved for Lamb.
Tolbert will never be more than a #3, and right now I don’t want to see him as more than a 4. Lots of receivers will catch the ball when open and it’s thrown to them. Call me the next time we see him actually beat a defender and get separation.

 

[RonWashington]

Here are some of Dak Prescott's average times to throw per year:

• 2023: 2.37 seconds, the fastest time of his career
• 2022: 2.72 seconds
• 2021: 2.75 seconds
• 2020: 2.77 seconds
• 2019: 2.88 seconds
• 2018: 2.82 seconds

Pretty sure last year's increased quick release time had to do with McCarthy's new Texas Coast Offense and our Oline being healthier than they have been for most of this season until lately.

Then why does the pocket collapse on him and he’s not able to escape . Do you remember the Atlanta game . He says before the game he was excited about the game plan which was quick throws get rid of .

First play to Leupke went for nice yards . Cowboys broke out with lead then Prescott went down which him being mobile on the moving pockets was also part of the game plan .

Dallas has an expensive stationary QB who needs to make quick decisions and get rid of the ball . Tolbert helps.

 

[RonWashington]

lol he isn’t like Beasley at all. Beasley was a shifty slot who ran great routes and got open all the time

He isn’t like twill. Twill was a speed rcvr who could catch the sideline pass

Tolbert is a mediocre number 3. He’s average at everything. Not great at anything

Right . His half dozen TD’s as a secondary option are a mirage . Stretching out for the first down after being tackled last night outstanding his back of the end zone out of bounds toe drag beautiful.

Sure let’s keep drafting receivers over and over while the D screams for help to try and keep games winnable like last night .

 

[maryquality]

Didn't he break his fingers last night? I thought I heard the announcers say something to that effect, and they had taped them together.