Tom Brady isn't just the best QB

[FuzzyLumpkins]

meh and you could predict Nors Jr would take over this thread.

 

[RoboQB]

I saw Montana play, and Montana, sir, was no Tom Brady.

Montana is idolized by Brady. Just a neat little tidbit.

Tom Brady is a great player. He deserves all the praise and accolades given to him.
However, to say you watched Joe Cool in his prime and diminish his play makes one
wonder if you were paying much attention or even old enough to understand what you
were seeing. Joe never needed a kicker or DB to win the big game for him.

 

[Thetriplets22]

You're only 27 years old you weren't even born yet last time Montana won a Super Bowl. He won his first Super Bowl without Jerry Rice. I can't believe you think Romo is second to Tom Brady amongst current QBs.

Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Dwight Clark. Montanas teams were loaded, this is bradys 7 SB. It's not even close

 

[Ring Leader]

Montana is idolized by Brady. Just a neat little tidbit.

Tom Brady is a great player. He deserves all the praise and accolades given to him.
However, to say you watched Joe Cool in his prime and diminish his play makes one
wonder if you were paying much attention or even old enough to understand what you
were seeing. Joe never needed a kicker or DB to win the big game for him.

I was living in Lake Tahoe during the 80s after college, so stop the condescending, junior. I saw the 9ers every Sunday since they were the local market team. I saw Montana benefit from a great west coast system that nobody could figure out for years, a great HC and great talent both offensively and defensively during his years there.

Although Joe was good, I always thought Steve Young was better. Unfortunately Young ran into a Dallas Cowboys buzzsaw which killed his chances at more Super Bowls. Montana had Cincinnati twice, Denver, and a rookie lead Marino team to beat in his Super Bowl wins and like Brady, a division (NFC West) that was the worst in football practically his whole career in SF.

Montana had better receivers, running backs and 0-line and won 3 less conference championships than Brady. Your Montana fan club awaits. And by the way, Joe needed a Danny White fumble and a his DBs finger barely hanging onto a Pearson jersey to win his first big one. Surely you remember that one - or were YOU old enough?

 

[RoboQB]

I was living in Lake Tahoe during the 80s after college, so stop the condescending, junior. I saw the 9ers every Sunday since they were the local market team. I saw Montana benefit from a great west coast system that nobody could figure out for years, a great HC and great talent both offensively and defensively during his years there.

Although Joe was good, I always thought Steve Young was better. Unfortunately Young ran into a Dallas Cowboys buzzsaw which killed his chances at more Super Bowls. Montana had Cincinnati twice, Denver, and a rookie lead Marino team to beat in his Super Bowl wins and like Brady, a division (NFC West) that was the worst in football practically his whole career in SF.

Montana had better receivers, running backs and 0-line and won 3 less conference championships than Brady. Your Montana fan club awaits. And by the way, Joe needed a Danny White fumble and a his DBs finger barely hanging onto a Pearson jersey to win his first big one. Surely you remember that one - or were YOU old enough?

Lol... junior...Well I did not intend to trigger you.
By the way, Marino was not a rookie in that SB year. It was his second season.

It's just ironic that Brady idolizes a player that you claim is not in his class.

 

[KJJ]

Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Dwight Clark. Montanas teams were loaded, this is bradys 7 SB. It's not even close

You weren't around to watch Montana so your opinion carries no weight. You think Romo is currently second to Tom Brady. lol Joe Montana is arguable the greatest QB to ever play the game and there's plenty of all-time QB rankings that will back it up. Brady is currently challenging Montana for the top spot and probably will overtake him in the eyes of many including myself if he wins his 5th SB. Montana never lost a SB and was 4-0. He was named SB MVP 3 times and tossed 5 TD passes against Denvers #3 defense in the 89 SB in which SF scored a record 55 points. No one was more clutch than Montana and the 81 team he led to the SB was 6-10 the year prior. Like Brady he made the players around him better and the only player you named of the three players around Montana during his first SB win to make the HOF was Ronnie Lott. Dwight Clark was solid but nothing special, he's known for "The Catch" and that's it.

These are some of the all-time QB rankings so go ahead and dispute them, seeing that you've been around long enough to know better. Most of the "current" QB all-time rankings have Brady and Montana #1 and #2.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ntana-head-top-10-quarterbacks-in-nfl-history

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-10-greatest-nfl-quarterbacks-of-all-time.html/?a=viewall

http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/top-nfl-quarterbacks-all-time/?page=15

 

[Thetriplets22]

You weren't around to watch Montana so your opinion carries no weight. You think Romo is currently second to Tom Brady. lol Joe Montana is arguable the greatest QB to ever play the game and there's plenty of all-time QB rankings that will back it up. Brady is currently challenging Montana for the top spot and probably will overtake him in the eyes of many including myself if he wins his 5th SB. Montana never lost a SB and was 4-0. He was named SB MVP 3 times and tossed 5 TD passes against Denvers #3 defense in the 89 SB in which SF scored a record 55 points. No one was more clutch than Montana and the 81 team he led to the SB was 6-10 the year prior. Like Brady he made the players around him better and the only player you named of the three players around Montana during his first SB win to make the HOF was Ronnie Lott. Dwight Clark was solid but nothing special, he's known for "The Catch" and that's it.

These are some of the all-time QB rankings so go ahead and dispute them, seeing that you've been around long enough to know better. Most of the "current" QB all-time rankings have Brady and Montana #1 and #2.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ntana-head-top-10-quarterbacks-in-nfl-history

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-10-greatest-nfl-quarterbacks-of-all-time.html/?a=viewall

http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/top-nfl-quarterbacks-all-time/?page=15

I never said he wasn't good but he's nowhere close to Brady. Brady can make any receiver good, he doesn't have a good line; average and he just wins almost every big game ever. Montana isn't even in Brady's league

 

[KJJ]

I never said he wasn't good but he's nowhere close to Brady. Brady can make any receiver good, he doesn't have a good line; average and he just wins almost every big game ever. Montana isn't even in Brady's league

You're giving an opinion of a QB who started winning SB's several years before you were born. Do you even realize that? Brady and Montana are neck and neck and practically every all-time QB ranking is proof of it. All great QBs can make any receivers look good. It's not only laughable to say Montana isn't in Brady's league but it also shows just how little you know about NFL history. Some advice, if you're going to engage in discussions about QBs who you never saw play other than in highlights, you really should do some research because if you do you'll find out just how wrong you are about Montana.

 

[Thetriplets22]

You're giving an opinion of a QB who started winning SB's several years before you were born. Do you even realize that? Brady and Montana are neck and neck and practically every all-time QB ranking is proof of it. All great QBs can make any receivers look good. It's not only laughable to say Montana isn't in Brady's league but it also shows just how little you know about NFL history. Some advice, if you're going to engage in discussions about QBs who you never saw play other than in highlights, you really should do some research because if you do you'll find out just how wrong you are about Montana.

Dude literally there isn't one thing Montana is better at than Brady. Accuracy,arm strength, intercepting, touchdowns, winning. Nothing

 

[KJJ]

Dude literally there isn't one thing Montana is better at than Brady. Accuracy,arm strength, intercepting, touchdowns, winning. Nothing

If that's how you're making your judgment, then how come you have Romo rated only behind Brady amongst current QBs when there's QBs that have better arm strength, throw more TD's, don't throw as many INT's, win more games, are more accurate and have much better playoff records than Romo? Looking forward to your answer if you can come up with one. One thing you're failing to realize is the game has changed some since Montana played with all the rule changes that have helped the passing game. Montana retired 23 years ago, it's a pass happy league today.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

eber, he's the best player that has ever laced them up. The MJ of the NFL, this is absolute greatness we are wAtching

Not MJ.

He is 6 for 6.
That's two threepeats.

Brady 3 for 6.
You can't say they are the same.

 

[Thetriplets22]

If that's how you're making your judgment, then how come you have Romo rated only behind Brady amongst current QBs when there's QBs that have better arm strength, throw more TD's, don't throw as many INT's, win more games, are more accurate and have much better playoff records than Romo? Looking forward to your answer if you can come up with one. One thing you're failing to realize is the game has changed some since Montana played with all the rule changes that have helped the passing game. Montana retired 23 years ago, it's a pass happy league today.

Ok so he's better than Brady at nothing.

 

[KJJ]

Ok so he's better than Brady at nothing.

Romo isn't better at anything than several current QBs but you have him rated second to Tom Brady. You're just grasping at straws.

 

[vic64]

I agree...these QB's are playing in different era's. Can you say Brady is a great QB? Yes, even more so of this modern era.... of all time? No. There have been a lot of great QB's in the NFL, they weren't great by themselves. That SB against the Seahawk's, weather you like them or not you, was a gift. You take that SB win away and they have not won in 10yrs. Once again are they the greatest of all time? No Are they the greatest team of this modern era? I would say so, because of what they have been able to do these last 15yrs. Just saying there have been a lot of great players and teams over the years. But I wouldn't call them a dynasty...just my .02¢

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Brady is amazing.
Calling him GOAT however, undermines the true GOAT. Bill Belicheck
Patriots have no problem winning without Brady.

 

[landroverking]

If you judge based on Super Bowls, no question.
But ask yourself could Brady handle the rules of the 60s 70s & 80s?
Rules where you could all but undress the QB in the pocket, rules where you could hit the receivers down the field until the ball was in the air.
And than there's grounding rules.
The game today if offense friendly.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Brady is playing in the salary cap era with a bunch of scrub wide receivers.
However, the old rules allowed for QBs to get hammered ( which I like) lol

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Montana's greatness is undeniable but what sets Brady apart from every QB that's ever played the game is his success spans 16 years with completely different rosters. He started winning SB's in 2001 and here we are in 2017 and and he's about to make his 7th SB appearance. He's had success with different WRs, RBs, completely different OL's and defenses. No matter who you put around him he wins.

Players keep coming and going but he keeps winning. Just look at some of the solid players that Belichick has either released or traded over the years but the Pats keep winning because the one common denominator that's been there all through the years is Tom Brady. They lose a huge weapon like Gronk but they keep winning. When Brady retires Belichick might as well retire with him because the magic will be gone in NE when Brady hangs them up.

You might be right, but I don't care about any of that. I'm just sick and tired of seeing Tom Brady's face. I hope the Pats lose and they then have a Chicago Cubs style gap between their last championship and the next.

 

[Thetriplets22]

The GOAT

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Dwight Clark. Montanas teams were loaded, this is bradys 7 SB. It's not even close

You forgot Rice.