Tom Zbibikowski... Notre Dame

[Future]

As a special teamer and Punt Returner I wouldn't mind spending a late round pick on him at all.

 

[tomson75]

Zbikowski is a playmaker. He would contribute right away. He has heart where or current SS seemingly has little (i don't hate ya Roy but c'mon).

Yeah, I'm trying to take this guy if he's there in the fourth. If he's there in the fifth, I'm pulling the trigger without hesitation.

BTW, is his 4.52 his official 40 time? That's better than I thought he'd run.

 

[Rack]

I watched Zbikowski during the DB drills today and he moved better then some of the CBs. I'd love to pick him up in the 3rd (if he's still there). He's got the attitude to be a great special teamer right away and has the skills to be a good safety down the road.


Plus he's a good return man. He'd definitely get a lot of PT as a rookie.

 

[joseephuss]

Zbikowski is a playmaker. He would contribute right away. He has heart where or current SS seemingly has little (i don't hate ya Roy but c'mon).

Yeah, I'm trying to take this guy if he's there in the fourth. If he's there in the fifth, I'm pulling the trigger without hesitation.

BTW, is his 4.52 his official 40 time? That's better than I thought he'd run.

He supposedly ran the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds in high school.

http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/zbikowski_tom00.html

The idea of him coming in to replace Keith Davis if Davis is lost this off season is interesting and reasonable. Not a high priority, but if he is there on the second day then it would not be a terrible pick.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

This guy sucks as a safety, always late to the pile and a cheap shot type of player.

You are a hater.... The Zib owns.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

You are a hater.... The Zib owns.

:laugh2: I am a realist. He sucks now and he will suck in the NFL. You need to get rid of your Purdue logo.

He supposedly ran the 100 meters in 10.4 seconds in high school.

In his dreams maybe. I doubt he would have finished 6th at the state meet with that time.

 

[TheCount]

Zbikowski is a playmaker. He would contribute right away. He has heart where or current SS seemingly has little (i don't hate ya Roy but c'mon).

Yeah, I'm trying to take this guy if he's there in the fourth. If he's there in the fifth, I'm pulling the trigger without hesitation.

BTW, is his 4.52 his official 40 time? That's better than I thought he'd run.

I don't think he's ready to start, and neither did a lot of the analysts there including Deion.

They talked about how he's a guy that can come in and be a special teams ace for the next two or so years and then one day he would happen into a starting job and never give it up.

I think he can play but I look at him the same way Weddle was last year, a guy with a good set of tools that will take a few years to bloosom.

I certainly don't think he can cover any better than Roy, and he probably isn't as big a hitter. I think both Roy and Tom have mean streaks though, but Tom may have a little more mental toughness being that he's an actual fighter.

 

[Muhast]

:laugh2: I am a realist. He sucks now and he will suck in the NFL. You need to get rid of your Purdue logo.



In his dreams maybe. I doubt he would have finished 6th at the state meet with that time.

He would be a bigger, faster version of K.Davis plus he returns punts.

You dont want him period? Not even 5th rd?

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

He would be a bigger, faster version of K.Davis plus he returns punts.

You dont want him period? Not even 5th rd?

5th round, maybe. I have watched him for 4 years and as I posted before he is almost always late to the pile and he specializes in cheap shots. I am not impressed with his "speed" or his coverage skills. He is not that great of a punt returner, you have to look at the quality of teams that ND played and who he had long returns against.

 

[Rack]

5th round, maybe. I have watched him for 4 years and as I posted before he is almost always late to the pile and he specializes in cheap shots. I am not impressed with his "speed" or his coverage skills. He is not that great of a punt returner, you have to look at the quality of teams that ND played and who he had long returns against.

ND has one of the toughest schedules to play year in and year out.


Zbikowski is a good safety and will be a good football player in the NFL. I'll take him in the third if he's still there.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

ND has one of the toughest schedules to play year in and year out.

Yes but Stanford, Duke, Navy and Air force are hardly powerhouses. Plus a lot of his return yardage is in the 4th quarter when the opposing teams 2nd and 3rd string are in.

 

[burmafrd]

Indiana is a ND hater like Justsayno. So anything he says about a ND player take with a grain of salt. Zib is not a cheap shot artist at all. He is not that great at coverage, but he is better then Roy ( I know, VERY faint praise) and he is VERY good at Punt Returns. We need a guy who can do it well and STs and Punt returns he would be worth a 4th or 5th.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Indiana is a ND hater like Justsayno. So anything he says about a ND player take with a grain of salt. Zib is not a cheap shot artist at all. He is not that great at coverage, but he is better then Roy ( I know, VERY faint praise) and he is VERY good at Punt Returns. We need a guy who can do it well and STs and Punt returns he would be worth a 4th or 5th.

I am not an ND hater I just don't think highly of Zbikowski. It is difficult to be a born and raised Indiana Catholic and not be an ND fan. I think that a lot of their players are overrated and I say so. Why does my not thinking he is great make me an ND hater. I would have loved to have the Cowboys been able to pick up Jeff Samardzija but he went the baseball route.

 

[Rack]

Yes but Stanford, Duke, Navy and Air force are hardly powerhouses. Plus a lot of his return yardage is in the 4th quarter when the opposing teams 2nd and 3rd string are in.

You got any links to back this up, or you just talking out your arse?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The times I have seen them play he did not strike me as being any better at his position that the one many complain about currently on our team...aka Roy.

What he would give you, that roy does not, is someone that could possibly be a returner.

However for those that rag on Roy's coverage ability...don't turn around and act like Z would be any better. At best he would be about the same.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

You got any links to back this up, or you just talking out your arse?

As I said before I watch every ND game that is televised but since I don't have a link I guess he got all his yardage against only top rated teams. I guess you must be an ND lover and their players are all allamericans.

On a side note how is your restoration project coming? I remember the sad day when you posted your nephew was shot and killed.

 

[ndanger]

The times I have seen them play he did not strike me as being any better at his position that the one many complain about currently on our team...aka Roy.

What he would give you, that roy does not, is someone that could possibly be a returner.

However for those that rag on Roy's coverage ability...don't turn around and act like Z would be any better. At best he would be about the same.

About the same? How about MILLIONS of dollars cheaper. About the same?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The times I have seen them play he did not strike me as being any better at his position that the one many complain about currently on our team...aka Roy.

What he would give you, that roy does not, is someone that could possibly be a returner.

However for those that rag on Roy's coverage ability...don't turn around and act like Z would be any better. At best he would be about the same.

Have to agree with you. I'm no ND expert, for sure. But when I've seen them, he's looked very blah. Not that he's a bad player, but he didn't stand out too much among college players when I saw him.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

About the same? How about MILLIONS of dollars cheaper. About the same?

Well that is true...I stand corrected. He would be cheaper to have in the backfield missing plays.

 

[tomson75]

:laugh2: I am a realist. He sucks now and he will suck in the NFL. You need to get rid of your Purdue logo.

In his dreams maybe. I doubt he would have finished 6th at the state meet with that time.

He sucks. Riiight. That's why he's invited to the combine. That's why he's one of the top rated Safeties in the draft. That's why he was one of ND's biggest playmakers the last two years. You really nailed that one.

I don't think he's ready to start, and neither did a lot of the analysts there including Deion.

They talked about how he's a guy that can come in and be a special teams ace for the next two or so years and then one day he would happen into a starting job and never give it up.

I think he can play but I look at him the same way Weddle was last year, a guy with a good set of tools that will take a few years to bloosom.

I certainly don't think he can cover any better than Roy, and he probably isn't as big a hitter. I think both Roy and Tom have mean streaks though, but Tom may have a little more mental toughness being that he's an actual fighter.

I never said he was ready to start. I said he was ready to be an immediate contributor. He would be an excellent guy to groom to eventually take everyone's favorite whipping boy's spot. On top of that he'd be a bigger special teams contributor.

Those same analysts were damn near chanting "someone draft this guy right now!"

He does have similar issues in coverage, takes poor angles, etc. However, he does something Roy hasn't been doing too much as of late...make plays. He's always around the ball.

He's got more heart, and a mean streak to boot.

The times I have seen them play he did not strike me as being any better at his position that the one many complain about currently on our team...aka Roy.

What he would give you, that roy does not, is someone that could possibly be a returner.

However for those that rag on Roy's coverage ability...don't turn around and act like Z would be any better. At best he would be about the same.

...if you leave no room for improvement. Roy hasn't spent too much time near the ball lately. That is what Zbikowski excels at. He always seems to be in the right spot at the right time.

It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that he could end up being an improvement over what we've had at SS the last year and a half. It'd damn sure be cheaper.