Tony (2.8 ypc) Pollard eh?

[fifaguy]

Explosive plays win football games.

That and forcing turnovers! great combo

 

[Patrick]

Talk about Tony's YPC all you want, he brings a different element than Zeke, and it's receiving. He's better, and more explosive, just accept it.

... and I love Zeke.

 

[G2]

Pollard is still not a better RB. It should be OK to like both, but no here.

 

[kskboys]

Pollard is still not a better RB. It should be OK to like both, but no here.

He was quite ineffective early. However, I like both RB's, so I'm not all that interested in the Z vs P argument.

 

[jwooten15]

Pollard is making less than $1 million. Zeke is making $15 million.

Pollard has way more speed and explosiveness and his ability to catch is head and shoulders above Zeke.

Zeke is big and can gain the tough yard. Is that worth $15 million? No.

 

[kumizi]

Pollard is still not a better RB. It should be OK to like both, but no here.

You guys are still missing the point.

We dont even have to agree who is better. Maybe Pollard is better than Zeke. Maybe Pollard is only 90% as good as Zeke. It doesn't matter.

Pollard makes $1 million. We can have two guys like Pollard making $1 million each and get the same or similar production as Zeke and save about $80 million dollars and spend it on more important positions. Drafting Zeke top 5 and giving him that big deal was a monumentally stupid move. If you dont understand that, you dont understand the NFL.

 

[G2]

He was quite ineffective early. However, I like both RB's, so I'm not all that interested in the Z vs P argument.

I feel the same way.
Pollard is WAY better receiving. He's faster and has better hands. The one long run was great, but before that he was not running very good. He was averaging just over 2 YPC.
Elliott will get you more yards game to game and he's much better at pass blocking.
They compliment each other nearly perfectly.

 

[G2]

You guys are still missing the point.

We dont even have to agree who is better. Maybe Pollard is better than Zeke. Maybe Pollard is only 90% as good as Zeke. It doesn't matter.

Pollard makes $1 million. We can have two guys like Pollard making $1 million each and get the same or similar production as Zeke and save about $80 million dollars and spend it on more important positions. Drafting Zeke top 5 and giving him that big deal in an absolutely monumentally stupid move. If you dont understand that, you dont understand the NFL.

Not accurate or realistic. I have no desire to change the argument to salaries. I wasn't arguing that. I have no desire to whine about a 4+ year old draft pick, I wasn't arguing that either.

 

[Cydios]

I saw that spinout where he dodged 3 players.. The oline is the issue.

 

[RonnieT24]

Nice game today by Pollard. All in all he showed everything we think we know about him. He's good in space and should be thrown the ball in space a lot more. He's not so great between the tackles.. He entered that last drive after Brown's pick with 11 carries for 35 yards. Had we been behind that would have been his final stat line and nobody would have been happy with it. But thanks to a huge effort from the defense and an efficient performance by Dalton we were in the lead and in a position to run Pollard against a tired and demoralized defense.. 2 carries for 46 yards later and you have a very good game.. Even though we didn't get big yards until the late runs Moore was at least somewhat stubborn enough to stay with it just enough to keep the defense from coming after Dalton with abandon. It wasn 't perfect.. but I'll take it.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I feel the same way.
Pollard is WAY better receiving. He's faster and has better hands. The one long run was great, but before that he was not running very good. He was averaging just over 2 YPC.
Elliott will get you more yards game to game and he's much better at pass blocking.
They compliment each other nearly perfectly.

Loool, the difference between Zeke and Pollard is that Zeke will put up a similar ineffective game and NEVER break the long run.

 

[kumizi]

Not accurate or realistic. I have no desire to change the argument to salaries.

Lol ok. Just stick your head in the sand then. There's this thing in the NFL called the salary cap. Might want to google it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You guys are still missing the point.

We dont even have to agree who is better. Maybe Pollard is better than Zeke. Maybe Pollard is only 90% as good as Zeke. It doesn't matter.

Pollard makes $1 million. We can have two guys like Pollard making $1 million each and get the same or similar production as Zeke and save about $80 million dollars and spend it on more important positions. Drafting Zeke top 5 and giving him that big deal was a monumentally stupid move. If you dont understand that, you dont understand the NFL.

I think you're missing the point. You can't change Zeke's contract. If you have the option of Zeke and his contract and Pollard and his contract you take Pollard and draft another guy to run with him. You are speaking strictly a hypothetical though. You won't get a argument from anyone saying you'd rather have Pollard and his deal right now.

 

[G2]

Loool, the difference between Zeke and Pollard is that Zeke will put up a similar ineffective game and NEVER break the long run.

At least you think you make sense and are laughing.

 

[kumizi]

You won't get a argument from anyone saying you'd rather have Pollard and his deal right now.

Did you read the thread?

At least 1/3 of Cowboys fans still think Zeke is better than Pollard. (forget the contracts)

These are probably the same people that dont believe global warming is real because it was cold outside last night.

 

[G2]

Lol ok. Just stick your head in the sand then. There's this thing in the NFL called the salary cap. Might want to google it.

I'm pretty sure I just got done stating I wasn't arguing the salary amounts. Good God you're thick.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Did you read the thread?

At least 1/3 of Cowboys fans still think Zeke is better than Pollard. (forget the contracts)

These are probably the same people that dont believe global warming is real because it was cold outside last night.

Zeke is better than Pollard. They are two different backs.

 

[Aviano90]

At least you think you make sense and are laughing.

But it is true. Think of Dez and how people defended him when it was clear he had lost something and wasn’t elite. You could see that. It should be crystal clear Zeke’s haters are right. It just is what it is at this point. Can you honestly say you’re seriously being objective at this point or do you believe you are just holding out hope Zeke is what you want to believe him to be?

And I ask that respectfully because we go back a long way and mostly agree on topics.

 

[streetcredit]

are rb allowed to catch the ball? someone tell Zeke

 

[G2]

But it is true. Think of Dez and how people defended him when it was clear he had lost something and wasn’t elite. You could see that. It should be crystal clear Zeke’s haters are right. It just is what it is at this point. Can you honestly say you’re seriously being objective at this point or do you believe you are just holding out hope Zeke is what you want to believe him to be?

And I ask that respectfully because we go back a long way and mostly agree on topics.

I'm saying that we have a need for both RBs. Again, I have no desire to argue salary amounts, extensions or draft positions. It's useless. I also don't feel it's logical to expect any player to be the same with a horrible O line as they were 4+ years ago with the best O line. There are 1,000 of these threads and the same tools repeating the same things.

I stand by my opinion. Elliott is the better RB, pass blocker and will get you yards game to game. Pollard is the better receiver, better hands, faster and they compliment each other.

I don't see any value in continuing to repeat that I wouldn't have drafted ANY RB with the 4th overall OR extended him early. But do I seriously have to post that qualifier every time someone like Caly flexes his internet muscles when someone doesn't **** on Zeke?

I was pumped when Pollard ran the 40 yarder for a TD, but he was awful before that and was averaging 2 YPC prior and you can't count on a miss-tackle every game to put them away.