CFZ Tony Pollard vs Saquon Barkley

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Im not seeing that one. Both players healthy are on par with one another. Pollard is between 5 and 6 ypc his entire career. I look at them as very similar. Pollard probably being the better receiver actually.

on no planet lol

 

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It's a one-year rental for $10 million. It's irrelevant. They don't need the cap space for this year, so who cares?

yeah. he’ll get the lion share because he’s the best option on the roster, but his salary isn’t forcing that issue. they had the money to keep him for a year simple as that

 

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Finally, Pollard forced 41 missed tackles and averaged a whopping 3.82 yards after contact per attempt.

Barkley 2.78. Facts over feelings

and geno smith led the league in completion pct last year lol. whoopty doo. i love pollard and hope he smokes barkley this year but barkley is a far better player/talent

 

[stilltheguru]

You lost this a LONG time ago. Keep defending our part-time rotational back.

I lost when I brought facts. Cz never change

 

[CCBoy]

Bet, back them 5 yards apart and give each one a football and then let them meet head on until one quits.

 

[visionary]

Im not seeing that one. Both players healthy are on par with one another. Pollard is between 5 and 6 ypc his entire career. I look at them as very similar. Pollard probably being the better receiver actually.

Man, you’re just off the reservation but that’s nothing new

 

[erod]

I lost when I brought facts. Cz never change

Statistics aren't facts. They're numbers for people who don't understand what they're watching.

 

[stilltheguru]

Statistics aren't facts. They're numbers for people who don't understand what they're watching.

How cute. The Ole eye test when you can't formulate a valid argument. Keep going. This is funny

 

[erod]

How cute. The Ole eye test when you can't formulate a valid argument. Keep going. This is funny

It's like talking football with my mom.

 

[blueblood70]

He did put up 2000 yards from scrimmage & 15 TD's in his rookie season, didn't he?

You don't have to believe he's generational. Quite a few great talents careers have been hampered by injuries.

I don't know what he did his rookie year because I really don't care that's what I'm trying to tell you he's not generational Barry Sanders was generational Emmett Smith was generational this guy is just a very good football player.

You have to separate the word generational or special or elite for the actual ones that are because right now saquon Barkley is nothing more than just one of the top backs in the game right now but he is not one of the top backs of all time in any shape or form I don't care what kind of moves and talent you see on the field most running backs can do that not all but most it's the ones that can do it over a long period of time and string it every year back-to-back to back.. This is why the people here who hate on Ezekiel Elliott when look what he did from the two years in college and the first four years in the pros it's almost unmatched that's what you can call generational but the problem here is he didn't play long enough healthy enough to probably break that 10,000 yard mark to even be considered for the Hall of Fame but he's got numbers that match or exceed guys like Terrell Davis and whatnot that's generational that means you had a great career...​

Again, I don't know what Barkley his rookie year did, all I know he's been hurt a lot and he's been not living up to the hype that came with him from college...

Right now, I see the guy in the same category as other guys that are playing right now that are not considered generational like Christian McCaffrey and dalvin cook and some others I think nick chubb is a better football player and he's very underrated then Barkley... I mean, I see Saquan in the same Breath it's Tony Pollard that's the truth Tony Pollard just didn't get his carries early on but he will now...

People who argue these points trying to make a football player from a rival that much better than ours and won't let it go,
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I start to think that they must be a New York Giants fan or a fan of that team because they won't let it go they want to be right, and they have to be a fan of that team and they just act like they're a fan of the Cowboys over here in Cowboys land.

 

[stilltheguru]

It's like talking football with my mom.

So your mom knows more football than you? Incredible. Keep talking please

 

[erod]

So your mom knows more football than you? Incredible. Keep talking please

She's 80 and puts up a better fight than you. Lol

 

[stilltheguru]

She's 80 and puts up a better fight than you. Lol

But we both know more so there's that. She never taught you how to form a logical argument? Sheesh

 

[erod]

But we both know more so there's that. She never taught you how to form a logical argument? Sheesh

You believe football statistics are logical arguments. They're exactly the opposite. So there's nowhere to go from there.

Fantasy football isn't football. Folks like you refuse to, or can't, understand that.

 

[stilltheguru]

You believe football statistics are logical arguments. They're exactly the opposite. So there's nowhere to go from there.

Fantasy football isn't football. Folks like you refuse to, or can't, understand that.

You think broken tackle percentage is about fantasy football. How cute

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You believe football statistics are logical arguments. They're exactly the opposite. So there's nowhere to go from there.

Fantasy football isn't football. Folks like you refuse to, or can't, understand that.

Stats are logical arguments or rather than can be used as the basis for logical arguments.

Fantasy football is where you assign points to stats. That is not what is going on here. Stats are representative of actual events and inherently empirical.

You are basically assuming that Barkley is as he was when entering the league in terms of agility, balance, and so forth. He is saying that actual events do not bear that out. In response to that you claim victory.

IMO, you are losing this debate hard.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As for Barkley, his interior oline is more suspect than their corners. Their tackles are good but he is not going to have cutbacks where Pollard is going to have a lot more opportunities.

 

[erod]

Stats are logical arguments or rather than can be used as the basis for logical arguments.

Fantasy football is where you assign points to stats. That is not what is going on here. Stats are representative of actual events and inherently empirical.

You are basically assuming that Barkley is as he was when entering the league in terms of agility, balance, and so forth. He is saying that actual events do not bear that out. In response to that you claim victory.

IMO, you are losing this debate hard.

I'm not assuming that. Barkley has been an injury nightmare for the Giants unquestionably.

My point was, when healthy, Barkley is a much more complete and better back than Pollard, who is a rotational back in a system. Albeit, a very good rotational back in a system.

That isn't arguable. Except here apparently.

 

[erod]

You think broken tackle percentage is about fantasy football. How cute

And you think PFF statistics hold merit. Comical.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not assuming that. Barkley has been an injury nightmare for the Giants unquestionably.

My point was, when healthy, Barkley is a much more complete and better back than Pollard, who is a rotational back in a system. Albeit, a very good rotational back in a system.

That isn't arguable. Except here apparently.

And your "when healthy" comment implies that he is just as he as when he heals up. He basically was given the Zeke treatment last year with 295 carries after already beginning to break down.

i don't think you appreciate what kind of toll that implies and what that does to future athletic ability. We just watched Zeke who was a tremendous athlete get ran into the ground.

You can argue however you like but you are not making arguments so much as assertions. IMO, he has given pretty compelling stats that Barkley is diminished from what he was.