Tony Romo v. Drew Henson Revisited

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lcharles;2832520 said:
Playoff wins

Drew Henson=0

Tony Romo=0



You were saying? :horse:


so let me get this straight, the QB is solely responsible for team to make it to playoffs or not? :rolleyes:
 

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TwoDeep3;2832940 said:
I think you need to revisit Aikman and maybe toss in a few of the play-off games where he was brilliant and surgical and then come back and rethink this.

Romo can do some amazing things. But he is nowhere near the passer Aikman was.

The second bolded statement is pure baloney. Romo can not throw the same ball Aikman did.

I have yet to hear one receiver state the webbing between his fingers were split by a ball Romo threw. Harper experienced it twice.

But we'll see when RW11 runs the Irvin slant this season, since that is his bread and butter route.

And that doesn't begin to mention the fact that Aikman's teammates claim he was the most competitive person they had ever seen.

Can you say that about Tony "Well if I don't ever win it all that will be OK" Romo?

One of us certainly isn't understanding the other. I said Romo CAN NOT throw certain passes Aikman could. Such as the accurate lasers down field to the sidelines.

Aikman could not move as effectively in the pocket, by time or throw on the move as well as Romo can.

They are just very different QB's who have taken very different career paths. Impossible to truely compare them.

Aikman was more consistent than I believe Romo ever will be. And on those great Cowboy team's he'a exactly what we needed. I don't think Romo would've have done as well

But there are a few things Romo brings to the table that Aikman did not.
When things break down and you need your QB to make something out of nothing, I'll take Romo.

On 3rd and 13 when the percentages are against you, I'll take Romo.

On 4th and 20 when you need a miracle, maybe another "Hail Mary", I'll take Romo.
 

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sonnyboy;2832968 said:
One of us certainly isn't understanding the other. I said Romo CAN NOT throw certain passes Aikman could. Such as the accurate lasers down field to the sidelines.

Aikman could not move as effectively in the pocket, by time or throw on the move as well as Romo can.

They are just very different QB's who have taken very different career paths. Impossible to truely compare them.

Aikman was more consistent than I believe Romo ever will be. And on those great Cowboy team's he'a exactly what we needed. I don't think Romo would've have done as well

But there are a few things Romo brings to the table that Aikman did not.
When things break down and you need your QB to make something out of nothing, I'll take Romo.

On 3rd and 13 when the percentages are against you, I'll take Romo.

On 4th and 20 when you need a miracle, maybe another "Hail Mary", I'll take Romo.

On first and ten when you need a drive to not go into the hole from the start...I'll take Aikman.

The problem with this offense is too many 3rd and 13's.
 

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sonnyboy;2832968 said:
One of us certainly isn't understanding the other. I said Romo CAN NOT throw certain passes Aikman could. Such as the accurate lasers down field to the sidelines.

Aikman could not move as effectively in the pocket, by time or throw on the move as well as Romo can.

They are just very different QB's who have taken very different career paths. Impossible to truely compare them.

Aikman was more consistent than I believe Romo ever will be. And on those great Cowboy team's he'a exactly what we needed. I don't think Romo would've have done as well

But there are a few things Romo brings to the table that Aikman did not.
When things break down and you need your QB to make something out of nothing, I'll take Romo.

On 3rd and 13 when the percentages are against you, I'll take Romo.

On 4th and 20 when you need a miracle, maybe another "Hail Mary", I'll take Romo.


I would agree on the first and third scenario. On the second, I would probably take Aikman because he wouldn't try to get cute and possibly force a turnover.
 

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Doomsday101;2832888 said:
To an extent I would agree but Henson has yet to make any impact else where either.

That is true as well--but he has been brought in to other teams as a potential project (and got no snaps until last season with Detroit). Still, when in Detroit, he's wasn't being groomed or even called upon to be the future of the Lions. He was just there.

And he was probably there mostly because he was a HS star in Michigan, and of course QB'd at the Univ of Michigan.

Don't get me wrong, I have NO regrets that we Big Bill gave Romo the opportunity, as that decision alone has played such a huge role in turning this franchise.

I'm not a Henson fan by any means. My only point is that it's hard to say "gee, glad I was on the Romo-wagon" when in all reality the Henson-wagon never even left the stable. So the comparison of the two is kind of silly really.

For what it's worth, I think Henson would have made the last 3 disappointing seasons 10 times worse. I'm quite happy with the decision that was made.
 

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Tovya;2833008 said:
That is true as well--but he has been brought in to other teams as a potential project (and got no snaps until last season with Detroit). Still, when in Detroit, he's wasn't being groomed or even called upon to be the future of the Lions. He was just there.

And he was probably there mostly because he was a HS star in Michigan, and of course QB'd at the Univ of Michigan.

Don't get me wrong, I have NO regrets that we Big Bill gave Romo the opportunity, as that decision alone has played such a huge role in turning this franchise.

I'm not a Henson fan by any means. My only point is that it's hard to say "gee, glad I was on the Romo-wagon" when in all reality the Henson-wagon never even left the stable. So the comparison of the two is kind of silly really.

For what it's worth, I think Henson would have made the last 3 disappointing seasons 10 times worse. I'm quite happy with the decision that was made.

I have nothing against Henson but he was given more of an opportunity than Romo. Heck Henson was ahead of Romo in the pecking order but Romo made the most of the opportunities that came his way which is what you have to do when you’re not a highly drafted player who is only going to get a handful of opportunities to show yourself.
 

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Alexander;2832850 said:
Not much.

Other than "I CALLED IT!!"
Which was exactly the only thing he wanted to do. He'll do it again down the road.
 

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Sickwitit;2833109 said:
lol at this topic...now lets compare Emmitt Smith to Troy Hambrick!!!:lmao2:
I called Emmitt would have a better career way back in 1990 at the Draft. You may offer me a cookie now.

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rcaldw;2832857 said:
I don't think average QB's get 3, do you? I really don't think you do either, and that isn't what you are saying.

And I agree with you completely that football, perhaps more than any other sport, is a TEAM sport. This is my argument as to why I hate, what I call, the "baseballing of football." That is, people just look at stats, and in football stats can be very deceiving.

But I also believe that when a football TEAM is in place, one that is good enough to win it all, now the QB's job is to get them there. Will it require all the pieces functioning properly? Yes. But he must play at a very high level on his end.

I don't think, SO FAR, that Tony has played his best games in the biggest games.

That doesn't mean he can't or that he won't, and I'm hoping he shuts up every critic in the 2009-10 season

you know I was deciding on how to critic your response here, but I won't because it isn't bad and it is fair.

I think there was alot more team letdowns and "less" Romo in December than alot here are putting the blame on, but you are right in saying Romo has not played his "best" games when he needed to.
 

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I can say I was curious about Romo after his first year with the Cowboys and I remember liking him as our #2 over Henson, but I cannot say then he was gonna turn out to be the guy.
After that Seattle preseason game, better believe that I saw a star potential in him and was waiting for the day BP would pull the trigger.
 

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one more note on this topic, all of you better get your game on and predict "the guy" of the future. It can be any position.
I would say WR Austin.
 

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RW Hitman;2833152 said:
I can say I was curious about Romo after his first year with the Cowboys and I remember liking him as our #2 over Henson, but I cannot say then he was gonna turn out to be the guy.
After that Seattle preseason game, better believe that I saw a star potential in him and was waiting for the day BP would pull the trigger.

I was waiting for someone else to mention that game.

I'm not as tied into the team as others on this site. But I do watch every preseason game I can and can honestly say I saw nothing in 2003-2005 that gave me any idea Romo would be a star.

But that Seattle game blew me away. I was sold right then.
 

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I get tired of all this crap about Romo in the 1st Giants game. The dude escaped the Giant rush, rolled out to his left and delivered a perfect pass to Crayton that would have changed the momentum of the game...Crayton dropped the damn ball.

He next delivers what looks like a game winning TD to Crayton in the right corner of the endzone on a go route but what happens...Crayton slows down.

Romo has had plenty of flubs BUT he is not the reason we did not go to the SB two yrs ago.
 

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rags747;2833232 said:
I get tired of all this crap about Romo in the 1st Giants game. The dude escaped the Giant rush, rolled out to his left and delivered a perfect pass to Crayton that would have changed the momentum of the game...Crayton dropped the damn ball.

He next delivers what looks like a game winning TD to Crayton in the right corner of the endzone on a go route but what happens...Crayton slows down.

Romo has had plenty of flubs BUT he is not the reason we did not go to the SB two yrs ago.
Uh, they were talking about 2006 when he replaced Bledsoe, not the 2007 playoff exit, which would be the 3rd Giants game of that season.
 

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Hostile;2833113 said:
I called Emmitt would have a better career way back in 1990 at the Draft. You may offer me a cookie now.

:thumbup:

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/cookie.jpg
 

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Hostile;2833312 said:
I feel so appreciated now. I hope the OP does at some point.

In all fairness, you never specified the type of cookie you wanted, so I'd cry fowl if I were you. Maybe you wanted an Oreo? I think it's unfair that Yeagermeister assumed that you wanted a striped chocolate cookie... work with me here...
 

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Tovya;2833381 said:
In all fairness, you never specified the type of cookie you wanted, so I'd cry fowl if I were you. Maybe you wanted an Oreo? I think it's unfair that Yeagermeister assumed that you wanted a striped chocolate cookie... work with me here...
I actually prefer white chocolate macadamia nut cookies.
 
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