Tony Romo v. Drew Henson Revisited

[Yeagermeister]

I changed that name as a joke, in fact. Also, my avatar was removed. I never did that.

That happens when the user is banned. No one removed it.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What? He was the most popular topic during the 2006 pre-season. Some were arguing for him to start in Week 1. After Week 1, the tide turned heavily toward Romo.

He was signed as undrafted in 2003. I was talking about leading up to the "insertion" in 2006

 

[Idgit]

That happens when the user is banned. No one removed it.

Remove his avatar again, somebody.

 

[sonnyboy]

I remember hearing very little about Romo before he was inserted in Giants game. One poster on this board talked him a bit so between him and the little that was reported I thought to myself, "hey, we have nothing anyways and Drew sucks" and never wanted Drew anyways.

So we fast forward to NOW.

Here is what we know:

• He can be a smart QB
• He can be a playmaking QB
• He can evade pass rushers
• He can put up some big numbers with a playmaking WR
• He can use Witten like Aikman did Novacek

and in the same breath here is the same list

• He can be Favre-like in the bad way
• He has pulled back and is not making the plays as often. He holds the ball too long now at times and when he finally throws its a poor decision too often
• He got nailed too many times last year IMO
• He has another playmaking WR that can be comparable to TO in some ways - I am actually not worried about RW like some are on here - lets see. My concern is possible lack of chemistry. We have time. To be determined.
• Witten and Romo combo is a good thing and will always be

You referring to me?
I had absoluetly zero expectations on Romo up to our first 2006 preseason game in Seattle.
At that point I was still holding out hope for Henson. I actually believed Romo's promotion to 2nd string toward the end of 2005 was nothing more than a Parcels motivation tactic for Henson.

When it was annnounced that Romo was getting the start against Seattle and would play the whole game, I WAS FURIOUS!
Couldn't believe they were wasting valuable playing time on this guy.

That's why I completely trusted what I saw in that game. I had zero expectations. If I had any bias or leaning, it was negative.

Well let me tell you, that first half in Seattle was one of the most impressive performances I'd ever seen. Not only did I not want to see Henson in the 2nd half, I didn't want to see Bledsoe.
I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I thought he was the 2nd coming of Montana. Compared his game to Montana in the coming weeks and was blasted.

From that point I was on the Romo bandwagon, and counted the seconds til he'd replace Bledsoe.

 

[BHendri5]

I apologize to everyone in this thread that said they knew.

But I don't believe you.

You hoped. You prayed. You fretted and wanted it to be so.

But a walk-on playing as Romo does?

All the teams that saw him and passed on hkim?

I just do not believe anyone expected this type of play from this guy and "knew."

I'm not calling you a liar. I am saying in your mind you have now rewritten history to fit the current circumstances as all witnesses do sometimes.

I don't believe it.

If you are not calling them a liar, then what are you doing? There is no way around that.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Remove his avatar again, somebody.

So then, can you prove I never had a Tony Romo avatar? No, you cannot. Because, in fact, I did.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If you are not calling them a liar, then what are you doing? There is no way around that.

So many times we observe things and when it is time to recall the event, some things change in our minds. Just look at how witnesses to a crime all relive it in their minds and see it in a different way.

That is not lying, but the mind massaging events and recalling them in a way that is close, but not accurate.

The Clint Stoerner example is a great one. There were so many fans on this board and others that just knew he was going to be greatness.

He wasn't.

Wishful thinking becomes I knew after several years. Not an outright lie. But surely not the exact truth.

The list of those players and the 'I Knew' bunch are many. I have fallen into that category as well.

Troy Hambrick
Randall Williams
Mike Sherrard
Derek Ross
Pete Hunter

The list goes on.

In all cases it was a wish and not a know.

In Romo's case it panned out and became a know.

So no, I was not calling them liars. I'm stating the way we remember things is not necessarily the way they were.

 

[theogt]

So many times we observe things and when it is time to recall the event, some things change in our minds. Just look at how witnesses to a crime all relive it in their minds and see it in a different way.

That is not lying, but the mind massaging events and recalling them in a way that is close, but not accurate.

The Clint Stoerner example is a great one. There were so many fans on this board and others that just knew he was going to be greatness.

He wasn't.

Wishful thinking becomes I knew after several years. Not an outright lie. But surely not the exact truth.

The list of those players and the 'I Knew' bunch are many. I have fallen into that category as well.

Troy Hambrick
Randall Williams
Mike Sherrard
Derek Ross
Pete Hunter

The list goes on.

In all cases it was a wish and not a know.

In Romo's case it panned out and became a know.

So no, I was not calling them liars. I'm stating the way we remember things is not necessarily the way they were.

To sum up your post, "no one 'knows' the future."

An astounding observation.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What? He was the most popular topic during the 2006 pre-season. Some were arguing for him to start in Week 1. After Week 1, the tide turned heavily toward Romo.

You referring to me?
I had absoluetly zero expectations on Romo up to our first 2006 preseason game in Seattle.
At that point I was still holding out hope for Henson. I actually believed Romo's promotion to 2nd string toward the end of 2005 was nothing more than a Parcels motivation tactic for Henson.

When it was annnounced that Romo was getting the start against Seattle and would play the whole game, I WAS FURIOUS!
Couldn't believe they were wasting valuable playing time on this guy.

That's why I completely trusted what I saw in that game. I had zero expectations. If I had any bias or leaning, it was negative.

Well let me tell you, that first half in Seattle was one of the most impressive performances I'd ever seen. Not only did I not want to see Henson in the 2nd half, I didn't want to see Bledsoe.
I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I thought he was the 2nd coming of Montana. Compared his game to Montana in the coming weeks and was blasted.

From that point I was on the Romo bandwagon, and counted the seconds til he'd replace Bledsoe.

You? Who the heck are you??

: j/k

No I was referring to AvengingHayseed.


At that point when Romo went in. I WANTED HIM IN.

I stand by that now.

Ask me again in another 3 years though.

 

[TwoDeep3]

To sum up your post, "no one 'knows' the future."

An astounding observation.

I have a 1-900 number for predicting absolutely nothing if you want it.

$1.99 a minute. Cheaper than Madame Cleo, Theo.

That made me laugh. :C)

 

[Idgit]

So then, can you prove I never had a Tony Romo avatar? No, you cannot. Because, in fact, I did.

Sorry. I was being cryptic. I was suggesting they ban you again for being annoying. I don't care about your Tony Romo avatar one way or another.

 

[rcaldw]

I find it humorous that there is so much chest thumping about our QB before he has won a single playoff game. I, as a former Henson supporter, still wonder what might have been had Parcells shown a bit more patience that Thanksgiving day, and if Henson had been handled differently at the beginning. But we will never know will we? I also am now glad to say that I support Tony Romo. I have his jersey in my closet, and I have said more than once that I was wrong about him, in a lot of areas. However, I am an old school Dallas Cowboys fan. I am probably delusional, but I still think Cowboys seasons are measured by Super Bowl standards, not 9-7 and miss the playoffs. Until Tony Romo and this team do something in the playoffs, it is just so much regular season flash and dash in my book.

As a side note, and I know this will make some angry, but I have been watching some Cowboys games from 1993 the last couple of nights, and there is such a gap between Aikman and Romo it is not even funny. Then again the NFL isn't the same either.

I'm glad we have Romo, and I think we could do a heck of a lot worse. But if he never wins anything that matters, then all your chest thumping will be for nothing.

I wonder, who was the first guy to have a Gary Hogeboom sig pic?

 

[poke]

i was not sure about Romo until just last week...then when i saw this picture
it became crystal clear..........ROMO U DA MAN !!

http://img7.*************/img7/4143/postimage0702jessicasim.jpg


sorry....just needed an excuse to look at these pictures again

 

[Doomsday101]

I find it humorous that there is so much chest thumping about our QB before he has won a single playoff game. I, as a former Henson supporter, still wonder what might have been had Parcells shown a bit more patience that Thanksgiving day, and if Henson had been handled differently at the beginning. But we will never know will we? I also am now glad to say that I support Tony Romo. I have his jersey in my closet, and I have said more than once that I was wrong about him, in a lot of areas. However, I am an old school Dallas Cowboys fan. I am probably delusional, but I still think Cowboys seasons are measured by Super Bowl standards, not 9-7 and miss the playoffs. Until Tony Romo and this team do something in the playoffs, it is just so much regular season flash and dash in my book.

As a side note, and I know this will make some angry, but I have been watching some Cowboys games from 1993 the last couple of nights, and there is such a gap between Aikman and Romo it is not even funny. Then again the NFL isn't the same either.

I'm glad we have Romo, and I think we could do a heck of a lot worse. But if he never wins anything that matters, then all your chest thumping will be for nothing.

I wonder, who was the first guy to have a Gary Hogeboom sig pic?

Does the same apply to Ware? As for Aikman and Romo I think both are great QB but Dallas did not put as much on Aikman as we currently do with Romo. We don't run the ball at will vs teams there were many games Troy had that he was not having to throw near the passes that Romo has had to do. Yes Troy has 3 rings but so do all the other players who played in those SB because it takes a team to win it all.

 

[theogt]

I find it humorous that there is so much chest thumping about our QB before he has won a single playoff game. I, as a former Henson supporter, still wonder what might have been had Parcells shown a bit more patience that Thanksgiving day, and if Henson had been handled differently at the beginning. But we will never know will we? I also am now glad to say that I support Tony Romo. I have his jersey in my closet, and I have said more than once that I was wrong about him, in a lot of areas. However, I am an old school Dallas Cowboys fan. I am probably delusional, but I still think Cowboys seasons are measured by Super Bowl standards, not 9-7 and miss the playoffs. Until Tony Romo and this team do something in the playoffs, it is just so much regular season flash and dash in my book.

As a side note, and I know this will make some angry, but I have been watching some Cowboys games from 1993 the last couple of nights, and there is such a gap between Aikman and Romo it is not even funny. Then again the NFL isn't the same either.

I'm glad we have Romo, and I think we could do a heck of a lot worse. But if he never wins anything that matters, then all your chest thumping will be for nothing.

I wonder, who was the first guy to have a Gary Hogeboom sig pic?

:laugh2:

 

[zrinkill]

I posted this 3 years ago ..... It still applies.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=963666&postcount=32

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[casmith07]

The only thing I remember was the season before Romo played, my dad had mentioned that there was some guy that was projected to be the third string that was "supposed to be pretty good" (talking about Romo).

I remember responding "anything would be better than Bledsoe." I can honestly say that I never really knew who he was until it became apparent that Bledsoe wouldn't finish the season as the starter.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The only thing I remember was the season before Romo played, my dad had mentioned that there was some guy that was projected to be the third string that was "supposed to be pretty good" (talking about Romo).

I remember responding "anything would be better than Bledsoe." I can honestly say that I never really knew who he was until it became apparent that Bledsoe wouldn't finish the season as the starter.

I remember my exact argument:

"I will wait and see whose better"

 

[rcaldw]

Does the same apply to Ware? As for Aikman and Romo I think both are great QB but Dallas did not put as much on Aikman as we currently do with Romo. We don't run the ball at will vs teams there were many games Troy had that he was not having to throw near the passes that Romo has had to do. Yes Troy has 3 rings but so do all the other players who played in those SB because it takes a team to win it all.

No, the same does not apply to Ware. I happen to think that the QB position is unique in the game of football, and I also happen to think that the measure of a QB, IF HE IS GIVEN THE TOOLS TO WIN BY MANAGEMENT, is whether or not he wins.

Has Romo been given enough tools to win with? I think when you have home field advantage throughout the playoffs, you have enough tools. When you lose at home in your first playoff game, that same season, then some of that has to go to the QB.

And in terms of what we put on Aikman, I challenge you to just go back and rewatch the biggest games we played in the 90's. Not some weak sister that we could pound to death, but the 49ers and Packers games. Aikman played a HUGE role in each one, and he was OUTSTANDING in ALMOST all of them.

I am saying this, I hope, clear enough that no one misunderstands.

I HOPE that Tony Romo is everything his BIGGEST fans want him to be. I am a fan of Tony Romo. I want him to be a big time winner for our Cowboys. PERIOD.

And I find no fault with anyone who has Tony Romo as their favorite player so that they see things through Romo colored glasses. We all do that with our favorite players.

What I am also saying, however, is that the QB position is the most important one in football, and ultimately, if a QB has to the tools around him to win, then WINNING is what measures him.

 

[Zaxor]

LOL, me and Benny went round and round... Mainly because I could not understand how before Henson even threw 1 pass how he could dog on the kid. Now Benny comes back to say he could also tell before Romo threw a single pass that he was gonna be the next QB for the Cowboys.

Well now.... how impressive is that... :gassy1: