Trey Lance could be a star with Kellen Moore

Lance is a back up PERIOD. Dak is light years better but not near good enough still. We need a QB here. KM aint changing anything here. We need leadership from our next HC and a culture jolt.
The kid is fire.
 
Shanahan didn’t really want Lance as much as John Lynch the GM did. The former wanted a QB more in the mold of his former QB Matt Ryan (and now Purdy).
 
Huh? What part of not wanting to run the ball did you NOT GET when Moore was OC????? I'd take Saleh or even Deion Sanders over Moore. At least you'd have some type of locker room culture...if nothing else.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with the OP, but do the Eagles run the ball?
 
Shanahan didn’t really want Lance as much as John Lynch the GM did. The former wanted a QB more in the mold of his former QB Matt Ryan (and now Purdy).
Good.

because we got Lance.

OP makes a very valid point about Lance and KMoore.

im sure Jerry will bring it up to KMoore during their interview.
 
Look at what Moore has done for the Eagles QB/offense.
he has done NOTHING.that Oline is probably going to take them to the SB,the eagles run the same dumb stuff we did when Moore was here.If we had that Oline we would have won 12 games even with Trey Lance as the QB.Barkley needs to gift each one on that Oline some great cars or something.
 
Dak has been a starter since 2016.
He has shown he doesn't belong. Many of us knew this in 2016, but he still got the job and has made hundreds of millions of dollars to choke in every big game.
He has also shown that NFL talent evaluation is pretty inept.
So, like Tom Brady, who wasn't drafted until the sixth round, just because he hasn't gotten a chance doesn't mean anything.
Up to that point he literally had the best rookie qb reg. season ever, but you knew? lol ok...
 
Dak has been a starter since 2016.
He has shown he doesn't belong. Many of us knew this in 2016, but he still got the job and has made hundreds of millions of dollars to choke in every big game.
He has also shown that NFL talent evaluation is pretty inept.
So, like Tom Brady, who wasn't drafted until the sixth round, just because he hasn't gotten a chance doesn't mean anything.
"many of us knew this in 2016!"!! that's rich... and its a LIE. out right lie.

none of you knew this in 2016. GUARANTEED. None of you said, yeah, he is not it, lets move on. NONE OF YOU. show me one post from these "many" you implicated in knowing this. tell me who this "many" people are. show me one post from you analyzing why you didn't think Dak doesn't belong in 2016.....

and now you say the NFL talent evaluation is inept. ok, lets go with that. but the players that dropped ala Brady or players that got over drafted ala Lance. they all got a chance to play and when they did, they showed it. Brady dropped. but he got a chance and he showed he belonged. Leaf got drafted 2nd over all and showed quickly he doesn't belong. Manning on the other hand showed he does.

so Lance has been in NFL for 4 years. its no longer a college player evaluation by the scouts. there is actual footage, and actual practice and actual time to coach, etc...and he sucked.

so let your Lance excuses begin
 
Moore was an exceptional quarterback, and was raised by a coach. His offensive mindset is one of understanding how to get the most out of the quarterback position, and he knows how to design plays that help receivers find weak spots in the secondary.
Trey Lance has all of the tools to be a NFL quarterback, and he shows that he can and that he wants to be successful.
Paired with Moore the Trey Lance trade might become one of Jerry's better decisions. Moore could utilize all of Trey's skills and make him into the next great quarterback of the Cowboys.
It could be a great fit.

His offensive mindset is also too dumb to understand the flow of the game and how to adjust to "in game" situations.

Before he got to Philly and had no choice but to feature Saquon Barkley, remember how his "mindset" used to work in Dallas and LA?

Kellen Moore's running game would hit for 5, 6 yards a carry all game and he would call pass plays for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and less than 2 yards to go.

I'll never forget a game when Zeke and Pollard were averaging over 5 yards a carry. AVERAGING 5 YARDS!! we got to 2nd and like 2 or 3 to go and this idiot Moore called three straight pass plays and we had to punt the ball. He made the same dumb decisions when we were playing with a lead late in games. Thats not a time to keep tossing the ball when you're trying to eat clock.

REAL offensive coordinators and head coaches KEEP pounding your defense into submission if you can't stop the run and your running back is averaging chunk yards. I just watched the Ravens run the ball 15 straight times last week in the playoff game.

I remember when the Bills gashed us for what, 200+ yards and only passed for like 120 yards or something like that. Why did that happen? Because their coaches were smart and intelligent enough to continue to do what the opposing defenses CAN'T STOP!!!

Without Saquon Barkley, Moore hasn't shown he is intelligent enough to understand the flow of the game. So unless Moore is bringing Barkley with him to Dallas.... I don't want his low IQ football decision making *** anywhere near this team unless it's on the opposite side of the field.
 
Look at what Moore has done for the Eagles QB/offense.

What coach in history couldn't look competent and successful calling plays in an offense featuring the best running back, the best receiving corp, a top ten quarterback and arguably the best offensive line?

Steven A. Smith could run that offense and look like a successful offensive coordinator. Moore is just going along for the ride.
 
Are we watching the same person? This guy has been with 2 offensive minded coaches and has done nothing to seize the opportunity but did not. Someone might have all the physical tools in the world but just doesn’t have the mental tools. I don’t think he has the mental tools to be a starting qb in the NFL right now. Just my 2 cents
 
I said Cooper Rush is better than Dak.
He makes the Cowboys better.
I didn't say he was the answer, but that he is better than Dak.
And I was right.

Let me start by saying Dak is not elite....

But Rush has been in the NFL one year less than Dak.

Dak has been in the top 10 every season, became an All-Pro and MVP candidate. Rush within this same time frame has bounced on and off of practice squads and been a backup his whole career.

1. You do know every NFL scout, coach and GM has film on every player in the NFL. When you're on practice squads any team can come pluck you off of them or inquire about your services. With that said, if Rush was better than top 10, All Pro, MVP candidate quarterbacks, why haven't any NFL coaches or GMs came and snatched him up yet?

2. Do you believe you know more about evaluating NFL quarterback talent than NFL scouts, GMs, and coaches who are paid millions to do this everyday.

3. If you believe you are smarter than the highly paid NFL personnel I've listed above in question number 2, then why haven't any NFL owners brought you on to any of the 32 NFL teams to fill any of the positions listed above or atleast brought you in as an consultant?
 
so a 3rd string QB, who can't hit the side of a barn or read a high school defense is going to be a star!!!

where do you come up with this crap!!!

OMG the stupidity....the levels of stupidity on this board never cease to amaze me
Well...our QB1 has those same attributes but can't walk without a hobble, and has more air time on his throws than Jerry has had since the end of the season
 
Well...our QB1 has those same attributes but can't walk without a hobble, and has more air time on his throws than Jerry has had since the end of the season
what!?

please don't give up your day job of flipping burgers to become a comedian. this was utter failure, even as you trying to be a funny troll.
 
Let me start by saying Dak is not elite....

But Rush has been in the NFL one year less than Dak.

Dak has been in the top 10 every season, became an All-Pro and MVP candidate. Rush within this same time frame has bounced on and off of practice squads and been a backup his whole career.

1. You do know every NFL scout, coach and GM has film on every player in the NFL. When you're on practice squads any team can come pluck you off of them or inquire about your services. With that said, if Rush was better than top 10, All Pro, MVP candidate quarterbacks, why haven't any NFL coaches or GMs came and snatched him up yet?

2. Do you believe you know more about evaluating NFL quarterback talent than NFL scouts, GMs, and coaches who are paid millions to do this everyday.

3. If you believe you are smarter than the highly paid NFL personnel I've listed above in question number 2, then why haven't any NFL owners brought you on to any of the 32 NFL teams to fill any of the positions listed above or atleast brought you in as an consultant?
Yes, yes, and yes.
 
Moore was an exceptional quarterback, and was raised by a coach. His offensive mindset is one of understanding how to get the most out of the quarterback position, and he knows how to design plays that help receivers find weak spots in the secondary.
Trey Lance has all of the tools to be a NFL quarterback, and he shows that he can and that he wants to be successful.
Paired with Moore the Trey Lance trade might become one of Jerry's better decisions. Moore could utilize all of Trey's skills and make him into the next great quarterback of the Cowboys.
It could be a great fit.
But would the team win a playoff game?
 

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
464,054
Messages
13,786,143
Members
23,771
Latest member
LandryHat
Back
Top