News: Troy Aikman: 'I believe either Manziel or RG3 will be in Dallas' in 2016

[BrassCowboy]

Ha ha how about:

 

[tyke1doe]

As much as it pains me to say this, John Manziel will be a Cowboy.

RGIII isn't coming here. He wants a starting job sooner rather than later. And I believe there are teams out there who believe, if they give him the proper training and the proper protection and offensive scheme, he can be a starting quarterback for them.

I don't think Johnny Manziel really cares about being a starter. He's just in football for the excitement and privileges it brings. He would be more open to sitting behind Romo, basking in the "glory" the backup quarterback position brings in Dallas.

I think he would be awful for this franchises and be a huge distraction, but Jerry doesn't care about that. Just as long as the Cowboys are getting publicity, Jerry just keeps counting the dough and ringing the cash registers.

 

[ccb04]

As Aikman alluded to...Jerry's comments could well be telling, as he believes they can rehabilitate anyone.

Pro's & con's for both IMO.

RG3 pro's: Great rookie season culminating with OROY. Smart...graduating from Baylor in 3 years with a 3.67 GPA and starting work on a master's. Great athlete with some arm talent. Didn't create any drama in 2015 given being in a tough situation...rather keeping pretty much silent in the media, etc.

RG3 con's: Despite his intelligence, he's had trouble deciphering defenses. There are those concerned about the aging Romo's health that want RG3, who has had injury issues going back to college...the most serious being tearing his ACL as a Sophomore...and then suffering tears to his ACL, meniscus, & LCL, in 2013. It's clear he won't last running too often in the NFL...but can he ever effectively & consistently operate from the pocket without an offense designed around that option? Turnover issues in 2013 and 2014...with 18 Int's and 20 fumbles (including 8 lost), in 20 starts over that span.

Manziel pro's: has the ability to perform the spectacular...though most of that still resides in College Station & may never consistently be seen in the NFL. Despite his smaller stature...has larger hands & a pretty good arm. Has shown accuracy on the move to both sides of the field. Displayed at least some glimpses of progress on the field.

Manziel con's: Despite a few glimpses of some maturation on the field...it was again the exact opposite off of it. Attitude, alcohol & immaturity issues, are huge concerns...even more so given the gravity of the position he plays. Hasn't had the opportunity to consistently be on the field to develop, because of his own behavior & choices. Much like RG3...can he ever effectively operate largely from the pocket?

Both would need to reign in the running or they'll get killed. They'd have to approach running like the smaller statured Russell Wilson does...but can either ever operate like he does in the pocket...reading defenses effectively, etc.?

Between RG3 & Manziel...RG3 has proven more in the NFL up to this point, while Manziel has brought his off-field issues with him from college. Yet another video of Manziel partying has apparently surfaced...this time at a bar in Dallas: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-manziel-partying-emerges-this-time-in-dallas

 

[CATCH17]

Don't really want either, but I would rather have RG3 if I have to pick.

Manziel is just a name, people.

Dude does not possess either an NFL QB body/skill set nor an NFL QB brain.

He is not going to change, and wearing the star on his helmet would only exacerbate his issues.

RG3 can't read a defense in the NFL anymore-- but at least he's matured in the last year.

Did you watch Manziel this year?

He's a little better than you're giving him credit for.

 

[CATCH17]

Another thing with RG3..

He had a lot of success with playaction passing and throwing deep.

Rg3 doesn't have much of a short game either.

Dallas doesn't do much playaction at all.


I think Johnny is the better fit tbh but either guy is a huge improvement over what we have because of their ability to improvise and make plays outside of Garretts scheme.

 

[Sydla]

Did you watch Manziel this year?

He's a little better than you're giving him credit for.

I did.

He's mediocre at best. He had two good games - Pitt and San Fran. That's it. San Fran stinks and the Pitt game he rolled up stats when game was out of reach. His QBR, which takes into account game situations, was an awful 40 in that Pitt game. So in reality he really only had one good game all year.

Throw in his off the field problems and there's no point taking a chance on a mediocre QB who can't control himself off the field.

 

[SDCowboy]

No thanks.

 

[CATCH17]

I did.

He's mediocre at best. He had two good games - Pitt and San Fran. That's it. San Fran stinks and the Pitt game he rolled up stats when game was out of reach. His QBR, which takes into account game situations, was an awful 40 in that Pitt game. So in reality he really only had one good game all year.

Throw in his off the field problems and there's no point taking a chance on a mediocre QB who can't control himself off the field.

Keep in mind he is a 2nd year player.


I like the ability to extend plays and think that makes him a good fit for us on the field.


Im with you on all of the off the field stuff but on the field I think he is a little better than what he is being given credit for when taking all things into consideration.


We need a backup and i'd rather have a guy like Johnny Manziel then some Matt Schaub scrub who is boring to watch and gets the same results as the Cassells, Weedens, and Moores.


I want Carson Wentz but I also don't want to see Wentz touch the field for a year or 2.

 

[Alexander]

Pick. Your. Poison.

 

[gimmesix]

I think we better get used to the idea that Manziel will be a Cowboy. The proof is in the pudding and Jerry already has professed his love for Manziel and has made it clear that he would be willing to take a risk for someone he believes can provide a big reward. Maybe the second part of that fits Griffin as well, but if Jones can get Manziel for a song and a dance, then there's little doubt he'll pull that trigger.

... And I really have no problem with that. If the cost is low, kick the tires and when they go flat, leave him on the curb. My only problem is if Jones decides Manziel is the answer and Dallas does nothing else to address the QB position.

 

[Sydla]

Keep in mind he is a 2nd year player.


I like the ability to extend plays and think that makes him a good fit for us on the field.


Im with you on all of the off the field stuff but on the field I think he is a little better than what he is being given credit for when taking all things into consideration.


We need a backup and i'd rather have a guy like Johnny Manziel then some Matt Schaub scrub who is boring to watch and gets the same results as the Cassells, Weedens, and Moores.


I want Carson Wentz but I also don't want to see Wentz touch the field for a year or 2.

The ability to extend plays in our system is overrated. Yes, Romo makes some plays where he improvises but he makes A TON of plays from the pocket too.

He's not better than what I am giving him credit for. He's a mediocre/average QB at best. That's not to say RG3 is really that much better but I'd rather have him than Manziel.

 

[Fletch]

I absolutely agree.

Dont count out Driskel and Hogan

I know about Stanford's, Hogan. I happen to really like the kid. Driskel? Trying to remember who he even played for.

 

[JoeKing]

if short term is all he would be, why would we want him. I think we have seen enough of the 1-2 year qbs, haven't you? We aren't going to see a #4 pick again until it is too late (Romo being done done). RGIII would have to come in here with the expectation being that we still grab Goff or Lynch (or Carson later in 2nd even) in this years draft, otherwise don't bother with RGIII.

Manziel, well don't even bother with him at all

Why does the long term solution at QB have to be a high draft pick? Romo wasn't a high draft pick, neither was Brady. And RG3 isn't coming in here as the starter, that's still Romo's job. RG3 will have to be coached up and learn the offense before the keys are turned over to him. That would take a couple of seasons. Until then he is a back up.

 

[reddyuta]

Rg3 is done, his knee is shot.if they bring him in here then I would lose all respect for Mcclay who is on thin ice for bringing in weeden.

 

[John813]

In this scenario, I rather stick with Moore.

 

[Frozen700]

You keep repeating this but you have no data to back it up. Being injured prior to age 38 for a QB is not predictive of anything but is the norm. Yes repeat injuries if you are insisting on calling a fractured collar bone as a repetitive injury are not predictive unless you start looking at unstable knees or a really bad throwing shoulder perhaps rarely an elbow on the dominant side.

You all will learn soon.

When we have a new QB, and things start to look better in the future, I hope the rest of you are still crying over Robo, and better not come in cheering like you been wanted a new QB.(not just you, the people liking your post are the main culprits i see all the time.)

 

[Frozen700]

Ok now this is crazy talk. None of this was even said by anyone before 2015. I know people are down on Dez after a rough 2015 season. But until another 2015 season happens, that was more of an aberration than anything else. And if Dez has to go, 31 other teams would RUSH to get him. Not to mention, if Dez is healthy, he's the least of our problems.

He should go to another team. As long as we have Romo, and wwe try to baby him with a run game, Dez will continue to look pedestrian, and just be a Gimmick player.

Throw deep every now and then, hope he catches it. Redzone, throw a fade, hope he catches it. Every now and then, throw him a crossing route. THE END.

How does ODB just come in the league, and already have more 100 Yard receiving games than Dez has his entire career?

You're going to blame the way we run the offense, well that's part of the problem, and why he needs to go. Send him to a team like Pats, that will use him correctly. Like Moss.

 

[Frozen700]

Funny how I'm the one that's mad, but you quoted me, getting all defensive over your baby Robo. If she smashed my girl for me to be mad at him, so what favors is he providing to you, to keep you happy, and for you to keep defending him like your his wife?

 

[BourbonBalz]

Anyone to replace romo

Wow!!!! Did you have an accident where you suffered severe brain damage?

 

[Frozen700]

Wow!!!! Did you have an accident where you suffered severe brain damage?

No did you?

Let me guess, no right? Because you are in defense of Romo/Robo who can do no wrong?