Video: Troy Aikman on accuracy: You either have it or you don't

[Runwildboys]

He had Irvin, Herschel Walker, Moose, KMartin, Emmitt, Novachek and AHarper

Lets not mis-remember

He had a few of the parts, but his O-line was a disaster. The team was 3-13 the year before he got there and 1-15 his rookie year.

 

[Nightman]

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He had a few of the parts, but his O-line was a disaster. The team was 3-13 the year before he got there and 1-15 his rookie year.

And Troy was the #1 overall pick

Sounds like a bunch of weak excuses

 

[Runwildboys]

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And Troy was the #1 overall pick

Sounds like a bunch of weak excuses

Does it really, or are you just trying anything to make Dak look better than he really is?

 

[Nightman]

Does it really, or are you just trying anything to make Dak look better than he really is?

I think you got it twisted

You guys are the haters and deniers

Dak's career speaks for itself

 

[Captain-Crash]

Does it really, or are you just trying anything to make Dak look better than he really is?

Dak just needs the best qb coach, offensive line, wr, rb, hc and a shut out defense that scores at least twice a game. Other than that, he's the best quarterback ever.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Who cares. As humans we can only find our own motivation. Dak has his.

The hell are you talking about? Are you really that delusional?

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Doesn't know Dak.

And you do? Holy hell its pathetic lmao.

 

[Runwildboys]

I think you got it twisted

You guys are the haters and deniers

Dak's career speaks for itself

No, nearly every expert analyst out there speaks for him. No matter how many times you call people haters, it doesn't change the fact that our defense is more responsible for a winning record than Dak is.

I want Dak to be great. I want him to be the greatest QB in the history of the NFL, as long as he's the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys....and if he ever approaches elite status, I'll be right there rooting him on. Hell, I'm rooting for him now. I'm also rooting for my one legged nephew to break records in track and field.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Who cares! He's our QB, he's not going anywhere anytime soon, so STHU and hope for the best. Unless Jerry is @Reality I don't think any of our griping is gonna make any difference.

lmao

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Dude, there is a difference between criticizing to what the haters of Dak post here. Does he have issues in his game? Sure. I got no problem with people criticizing that. Put bashing him for everything isn't criticizing it's abject and irrational hatred of the kid and for what? Because he didn't pass for as many yards as you think a QB should pass? Because he didn't do what you wanted him to do? He missed a guy?

You're pathetic lol

 

[Hadenough]

Cam Newton was the MVP that year. He carried the team and didn't have the benefit of a 1000 yard rusher. The Panthers were also #1 on offense that year. Newton is an infinitely better QB than Dak and I'm not a Newton fan. He's having a down year this year and he's still statically where Dak is and has thrown more TD's. But for some QB's, it's a down year; for Dak, he's playing well.

Im not a Cam Newton fan either but no spot on the field is safe when Cam drops back. People say well Dak can throw deep too but what they dont realize is Dak has to completely step in and give it everything he has to throw deep and when you do that you lose accuracy. Cam can make those same throws only putting about 70 percent into those throws.

 

[tyke1doe]

Do you realize in terms of in-game accuracy as far as what counts as a stat, Dak actually is more accurate?


The problem is, for those analyzing with their eyes only, is Dak is a little more susceptible to errant throws, at times, that should be easy throws.

Those stick out in your mind .

Scientifically speaking and from an evidential standpoint that is. Those stick out more even though we pass more nowadays and because we forget bad plays over time .

But theyre happening at a less frequency, actually.

When you pass so frequently it's bound to happen.

..and fans forget bad plays by players they love and forget plays and bad throws over time...

That's what your eyes are seeing and what you are remembering to form your analysis.

Eyes can be deceiving and our biases influence to deny facts.

That's what you're doing here in order to suit your argument.

If we are making a fair comparison, i.e., their first three years only, Dak is in fact more accurate in terms of what counts in the stat column.

Stats can also be deceiving. You know the famous saying "Lies, d@#$ed lies and statistics"?
At any rate, this is really a pointless argument. You have Hall of Fame players, including a quarterback (Aikman) and a receiver (Shannon Sharpe) who caught passes from a legend (John Elway), telling you Dak isn't consistently accurate, that Dak misses open receivers, that he holds on to the ball too long.
You have the all-22 which consistently reveals that if Dak had more confidence in anticipating throw, he'd be completing deep throws and long touchdown passes more frequently.
But if you want to believe the dink and dunk stats and magnify Dak's accuracy with 20-25 for 162 yards as being on par with Aikman's body of work, okay.
But keep that argument here. Export it anywhere else and people will laugh you to scorn.

 

[tyke1doe]

He had Irvin, Herschel Walker, Moose, KMartin, Emmitt, Novachek and AHarper

Lets not mis-remember

We were comparing Troy's first two years because:
1. One of the Dak supporters chose the two year mark
2. We have only two years of full evaluation since Dak has only played two full years (this year isn't complete yet)

In Aikman's first two years, Irvin was injured. Irvin played six games his first year, 12 his second year. Aikman missed 5 games his rookie year and 1 game his second year.

Novacek came to Dallas Aikman's second year. Harper arrived in Aikman's third year (outside the scope of comparison) and really wasn't that effective. And truth be told, Harper benefited from the talent around him because he went MIA when he left Dallas.
KMart was Beasley-lit. Moose was a blocking back and if you cite Emmitt, Dak had Zeke his entire career. Aikman didn't have Emmitt his first year.

Just some additional context.

 

[shabazz]

The bottom line is Dak’s inconsistency and Timidity. With our last Qb we never and I mean NEVER did we think that another teams defense was gonna shut down our offense,particularly in the passing game

Fellas, That’s the main reason we are critical of this Qb. He limited against many defenses, ergo the #21 qbr rating. The numbers don’t lie. It nothing personal. No Hating as the kids accuse us of. We need him to step up or step the heck out. We’d rather he Step Up so we don’t Have to find a replacement.

What’s so hard to understand about this?

 

[tyke1doe]

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And Troy was the #1 overall pick

Sounds like a bunch of weak excuses

So that's relevant how?
So was Peyton Manning and John Elway. Look at their first years compared to their progression.
Dak appears to have REGRESSED from his first year.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think you got it twisted

You guys are the haters and deniers

Dak's career speaks for itself

His career speaks for itself?
An exceptional rookie year in which we were all on board, including myself. A one-and-done playoff appearance?
A second year that exposed Dak as a dink and dunk specialist who needed Zeke to succeed?
A third year where his defense kept him in games and where he's fortunate that under 20 points was good enough to win? A third year where he fumbled 12 times, held onto the ball for too long and consistently missed open receivers, making close games out of blowouts?
You mean THAT career?

 

[Nightman]

So that's relevant how?
So was Peyton Manning and John Elway. Look at their first years compared to their progression.
Dak appears to have REGRESSED from his first year.

You guys love comparing Dak to HoFers and pounding your chest when he comes up just short

 

[Nightman]

His career speaks for itself?
An exceptional rookie year in which we were all on board, including myself. A one-and-done playoff appearance?
A second year that exposed Dak as a dink and dunk specialist who needed Zeke to succeed?
A third year where his defense kept him in games and where he's fortunate that under 20 points was good enough to win? A third year where he fumbled 12 times, held onto the ball for too long and consistently missed open receivers, making close games out of blowouts?
You mean THAT career?

31-16 with 2 Division Titles
95.2 Passer Rating .....good for Top 10 All Time
66.2% Comp Rating.......63-25 TD-INT
Another 900 yd Rushing and 18 TDs

Only 25 years old

 

[Runwildboys]

You guys love comparing Dak to HoFers and pounding your chest when he comes up just short

@tyke1doe was responding to your post about Aikman. Nice deflection though.

 

[Doomsday101]

His career speaks for itself?
An exceptional rookie year in which we were all on board, including myself. A one-and-done playoff appearance?
A second year that exposed Dak as a dink and dunk specialist who needed Zeke to succeed?
A third year where his defense kept him in games and where he's fortunate that under 20 points was good enough to win? A third year where he fumbled 12 times, held onto the ball for too long and consistently missed open receivers, making close games out of blowouts?
You mean THAT career?

Dak numbers this year are better than last season, he has thrown fewer ints, he has thrown for more yards, his QB rating is higher. As for defense keeping us in the game? Last time I checked that is what a defense is supposed to do. I think Dak still has much work ahead of him but this daily bashing gets old, you guys act as if he has contribute nothing yet he has hit a lot of big plays this season and some clutch plays to help this team.