Troy, Babe Talk about Changes In Offense

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3rd out of 32.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/4th-quarter-points-per-game

This is so easy it's getting boring, people.
Ok, thanks.
But one can look t it, a team has the lead, and can get more points (some fans refer to them as garbage points). From turnovers from teams trying to force the ball to score.
I am not saying that to go against you. I am just trying to give a different perspective to those stats.

But how many times have they failed in getting those points when needing to pull out a win. Yes, other teams play defense as well.
Or how many times does a defense trying to create a punt, then gives up a long scoring play (again some say garbage points).

I guess I am saying stats can just be stats a times.
 

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How were they in January?
Damn good against Tampa Bay.

Moore has super powers but vs. 49ers he couldn't make Dak a top six, consistent quarterback. He couldn't fix the two Gallup leg injuries that both required surgery, he couldn't fabricate from earth and straw a third WR that Jerry didn't provide on the roster, and he couldn't stop Tony Pollard from getting injured. What a loser OC...he's not Jesus.

Moore did rise from the dead to land in Charger-land 3 days later after his demise, but no...he's not Jesus
 

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Or could this be another failed attempt to have a bash Dak thread. It was tried yesterday, and again today?
Yes, Prescott was bad. But we were one dimensional. When the running back went down. San Francisco can make any quarterback look bad. And that’s all you have.
 

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:huh:

This post sound like a Conspiracy Theory of some sorts like Mike is attempting to throw blame in order to save His skin.

What is happening in Reality is the Head Coach taking the Bull by the Horns, there are no more excuses . . . Its do or die time

Mike is gonna Drag Dak across the Finish line or He is gonna replace Him if Dak is not up to the challenge
I'm not saying MM is heading some sort of evil scheme to bring Dak to his knees. Pressure from those in power usually has a way of forcing actions that might be considered uncommon for a man who has seen his share of success in the past. I think MM is at at a point whereby he's ready to take whatever actions might be necessary to move this team forward or die trying. Aikman obviously feels compassion for what Dak has been going through and has elected to take a QB's position, whether it behooves the team as a whole or not. I'd say it's just a natural reaction from someone who has gone through the struggles of leadership, despite what he considers improper reactions from the powers that be, i.e., the C'boys' FO. Just drama, as usual.
 
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I'm not saying MM is heading some sort of evil scheme to bring Dak to his knees. Pressure from those in power usually has a way of forcing actions that might be considered uncommon for a man who has seen his share of success in the past. I think MM is at at a point whereby he's ready to take whatever actions might be necessary to move this team forward or die trying. Aikman obviously feels compassion for what Dak has been going through and has elected to take a QB's position, whether it behooves the team as a whole or not. I'd say it's just a natural reaction from someone who has gone through the struggles of leadership, despite what he considers improper reactions from the powers that be, i.e., the C'boys' FO. Just drama, as usual.
;) To have premium consumption a rancher knows one has to have premium beef with a premium herd...
 

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;) To have premium consumption a rancher knows one has to have premium beef with a premium herd...
Not at all sure what that has to do with the Dallas Cowboys and their current situation . . .:huh:
 

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Not at all sure what that has to do with the Dallas Cowboys and their current situation . . .:huh:
If Dallas does NOT win this season, will the current head coach be let go? If so, would our DC then become the Head Coach. Then, would the OC require someone like Eric Bieniemy?
 

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I thought Bill Parcells laid it out pretty well after the SF game. I don't have the exact quote, but he basically said Dak is a good, but not great QB and that play calling in the SF game required an upper echelon QB, which Dak is not.
 

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Please try harder, anti-Moore crowd. It's childishly easy to blow your arguments half-way across the planet. Aim to keep the discussion interesting, at least.

All I hear is one lame fiction after another. Get some game!

Dallas was 7th of 32 in 1st quarter scoring in 2022
Dallas was 1st in Quarter One scoring in 2021

Source:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/1st-quarter-points-per-game?date=2022-02-14
Look deeper than cumulative stats to understand the story.

First Qtr points:

TB = 3
Cinci = 14
NYG = 3
Wash = 3
LAR = 9 (6 from def TD)
Philly = 0
Det = 0
Chi = 14
GB = 0
Min = 10
NYG = 0
Indy = 7 (scored 54 total)
Hou = 7
Jax = 7 (scored 34 total)
Philly = 7 (scored 40 total)
Tenn = 7
Wash = 0
TB = 6
SF = 0

Inconsistent at best. Feast or famine. Some games— they are explosive. Some games they play down to their competition. Some games they come out and lay a big fat turd.
 

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Jalen Hurts was on an Eagles team with no weakness, offensively or defensively. Loaded.

And by no means am I saying Dak is a top five QB. But the bash-narrative around here is so over cooked.
the eagles lost to the cowboys without Hurts who was injured . so they are not that vastly better superior to the cowboys, just shows how important is a QB. You are right about Dak not being elite for sure. but he is paid like one and has an abysmal record in the playoffs and big games.
 

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the eagles lost to the cowboys without Hurts who was injured . so they are not that vastly better superior to the cowboys, just shows how important is a QB. You are right about Dak not being elite for sure. but he is paid like one and has an abysmal record in the playoffs and big games.
1. P Mahomes
2. R tannehill
3. L Jackson
4. A. Rod
5. J. Goff

These are your top 5 paid QB's this year in actual cap currency which unless your making a wierd argument should be the only thing you care about as a fan....where would Dak's playoff performance last year rank on this list?
 

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1. P Mahomes
2. R tannehill
3. L Jackson
4. A. Rod
5. J. Goff

These are your top 5 paid QB's this year in actual cap currency which unless your making a wierd argument should be the only thing you care about as a fan....where would Dak's playoff performance last year rank on this list?
unless you are naive you know that this is a timing issue with these contracts. when dak signed he was like top or 2nd most paid , and he will now be demanding 50 to 55 mil a year next year. Either way , it is an endless cycle with a middle of the pack average QB who is on decline. Hardly what the cowboys need after a 27 year SB drought.
 

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unless you are naive you know that this is a timing issue with these contracts. when dak signed he was like top or 2nd most paid , and he will now be demanding 50 to 55 mil a year next year. Either way , it is an endless cycle with a middle of the pack average QB who is on decline. Hardly what the cowboys need after a 27 year SB drought.
What do they need? they have a winning QB who is 26 mill vs the cap this year, what do you think a 7 year winning QB in the NFL costs vs the cap? What move exactly has the Dak contract kept them from making over the years? I'm not even a huge "Dak is elite" guy but man the contract stuff is ridiculous......
 

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What do they need? they have a winning QB who is 26 mill vs the cap this year, what do you think a 7 year winning QB in the NFL costs vs the cap? What move exactly has the Dak contract kept them from making over the years? I'm not even a huge "Dak is elite" guy but man the contract stuff is ridiculous......
his cap hit is tremendous given his shortcomings. that is the issue. The next wave of QBs have surpassed him while the cowboys are stuck with Dak's contract and cap hit . The result is the 9 to 10 wins and no CCG or SB. if that was the goal then Dak fits the role.
 

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Bad QB play has ended their last 2 seasons. That needs fixed.

Everything else is just rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.

So 2 years ago when our defense had 15 penalties in the first playoff game against the 49ers, in the same season our defense LED the NFL in defensive penalties.... that was all bad quarterback play huh....

You care to explain to me how bad quarterback play affects 15 penalties in one game or the defense leading the league in penalties that same year?

Please enlighten us.
 

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his cap hit is tremendous given his shortcomings. that is the issue. The next wave of QBs have surpassed him while the cowboys are stuck with Dak's contract and cap hit . The result is the 9 to 10 wins and no CCG or SB. if that was the goal then Dak fits the role.

Other than Mahomes and Burrows.... exactly what other quarterbacks in the league are truly earning what their contracts are paying them? All of those other quarterbacks earned their max deals according to the market and so did Dak at the time he got his.

People act like Dak is the only quarterback with a big contract who isn't going to the Superbowl every year.
 

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his cap hit is tremendous given his shortcomings. that is the issue. The next wave of QBs have surpassed him while the cowboys are stuck with Dak's contract and cap hit . The result is the 9 to 10 wins and no CCG or SB. if that was the goal then Dak fits the role.
You saw the list i gave how is it tremendous for his shortcommings? Again the fact you wish there was not a QB market doesnt change the fact there is one, you may not like what you pay for transportation but that doesnt change the fact that if you have to have it you will pay the market price for it.
 

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Other than Mahomes and Burrows.... exactly what other quarterbacks in the league are truly earning what their contracts are paying them? All of those other quarterbacks earned their max deals according to the market and so did Dak at the time he got his.

People act like Dak is the only quarterback with a big contract who isn't going to the Superbowl every year.
Worse while they say "He is earnig 40 mill a year" which is just untrue..again unless you have some wierd affinity for Jerry's billions the only thing that should matter is the players current cap hit.
 

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Other than Mahomes and Burrows.... exactly what other quarterbacks in the league are truly earning what their contracts are paying them? All of those other quarterbacks earned their max deals according to the market and so did Dak at the time he got his.

People act like Dak is the only quarterback with a big contract who isn't going to the Superbowl every year.
you are correct , many overpaid QBs out there. and this argument is 3 years late anyway . dak has been signed and we know the cowboys have not advanced to the CCG or the SB. My point is that there were other much cheaper and BETTER options than Dak at QB. Heck, brady was available at 26 million when he left the Patriots. The Bucs got a SB ring and more . The rams made moves and got stafford at 22 milllion or so and won a SB with him . The eagles got to the SB last year with a QB in the second round who earned 2 million a year. Etc etc. All the while the cowboys were and still are all in on Dak , even after 8 years of mediocrity.
 
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