Tyler Guyton will be a bust

[Hoofbite]

No.

Two “real pressures”. I suspect the careful choice in those words means the standard metric of a pressure that everyone else is using probably had a number higher than 2.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I think he needs to take Steele's spot and Jerry should draft a LT with the premium pick coming our way. LT is one of the hardest positions in football to find. Giant men with quick feet tend to play basketball not football. We also have to replace Zach Martin most likely.

This is a weak LT draft class.

 

[HungryLion]

I don’t know if Guyton will bust. The mental stuff worries me a bit. Hopefully he matures a bit.


But this is all just more evidence that the FO is full of crap. Trying to sell to the fans that rookies are going to come in and play well right away and the team won’t miss a beat. Which is pure nonsense. Most rookies struggle.

You’re not always going to have a Zeke or Micah or Dak, etc who come in and play well right away.

You’re not always going to get rookie players to come in and hit the ground running and be quality players off the jump. Expecting it to happen and relying on it to happen is piss poor roster construction but that’s exactly what our FO does repeatedly.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I know I know. I am giving him 1 more year because the level of talent around him is atrocious.

Mazi is worse than the talent around him.

 

[CATCH17]

It’s his first year at Left Tackle and the guy started his college career as a TE..


I think he’s done a really good job all things considered and there is a ton of upside.

Worst case scenario we can always draft another stud LT and move him to RT.

 

[KingCorcoran]

It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.

Are you personally acquainted with Guyton? Have you conferred with members of the Cowboys’ coaching staff? Or are you making this assessment based on what you watch on TV? If this is based on what you’ve heard or read from media paid to get your attention your opinion is just that.

 

[DuncanIso]

My easy solution:

Move Guyton to RT, release Steele
Tyler back to LT
Move Beebee to LG or RG, Martin retires.
Draft a C or FA
Draft another G or FA

Hire best OL coach out there.

I don't think they are going to do all of that.

Steele is likely a Post June 1 cut next Spring.

They hit a home run with CooperBB at C.

 

[Whyjerry]

Are you personally acquainted with Guyton? Have you conferred with members of the Cowboys’ coaching staff? Or are you making this assessment based on what you watch on TV? If this is based on what you’ve heard or read from media paid to get your attention your opinion is just that.

Is that Jerry? No one can be this literal.

 

[Whyjerry]

Mazi is worse than the talent around him.

You like the great Carl Lawson huh?

 

[TwentyOne]

It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.

Will be ? He is.

3rd first round bust in a row.

But hey we are a great drafting team which builds thru the draft!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

It’s his first year at Left Tackle and the guy started his college career as a TE..


I think he’s done a really good job all things considered and there is a ton of upside.

Worst case scenario we can always draft another stud LT and move him to RT.

We already have that in Tyler. What we need is a guard, especially if Martin retires. We could do (left to right) Tyler, Bass, Beebe, Rookie or FA, and Guyton.

 

[Whyjerry]

Will be ? He is.

3rd first round bust in a row.

But hey we are a great drafting team which builds thru the draft!

Trust the process

 

[Pola_pe_a]

It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.

The fact that you have hope for Mazi but not Guyton is hilarious.

Mazi Smith BLOWS, I watch line play, he literally does nothing well. He doesn’t get off the ball, he can’t anchor, plays with bad leverage, bad hand usage, has no pass rush moves, doesn’t get off blocks etc. He’ll be out of the league in a couple years.

Guyton is raw but he has the tools. He has quick feet and plays with decent leverage. At times he gets too much waist bend in his pass set and he opens the gate or oversets sometimes but I think has to do with NFL speed and switching sides.. Switching sides Is a bigger adjustment than most people realize, add that to his rawness and the learning curve will be steep but he’ll be a solid starter.

 

[Whyjerry]

The fact that you have hope for Mazi but not Guyton is hilarious.

Mazi Smith BLOWS, I watch line play, he literally does nothing well. He doesn’t get off the ball, he can’t anchor, plays with bad leverage, bad hand usage, has no pass rush moves, doesn’t get off blocks etc. He’ll be out of the league in a couple years.

Guyton is raw but he has the tools. He has quick feet and plays with decent leverage. At times he gets too much waist bend in his pass set and he opens the gate or oversets sometimes but I think has to do with NFL speed and switching sides.. Switching sides Is a bigger adjustment than most people realize, add that to his rawness and the learning curve will be steep but he’ll be a solid starter.

Decent leverage and quick feet??? What the hell are you talking about. That guy plays with no leverage. He is way too upright. Guy has actually regressed this year as DEs are routinely beating him on the edge, with power and/or hand fighting. He has no answer for any of that. Meanwhile his response is to sit it out and sulk. Furthermore I haven’t seen a weaker Tackle in my life. Guy has the shoulders of a WR. All the tools??? Get bent.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Is that Jerry? No one can be this literal.

It’s far too early to make a definitive judgement on Guyton. Mazi has shown less, but few defensive tackles are dominant in their first couple of years in the league. Mazi looks more questionable than Guyton.

 

[NumOneQB]

He's certainly leaning that way. Bothers me in how he lacks physicality. You can also see his build is way too light up top. He just lacks mass and it shows at the point of attack. Maybe one NFL offseason will do him wonders? Who knows?

 

[America's Cowboy]

That statement means absolutely nothing. All OTs win a vast majority of their snaps. If an OT did not win a majority of his snaps, he would probably be the worst OT in NFL history.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pass-protection-win-rate-week-4

The difference is Guyton is a rookie who has been thrown into the fire since Week 1 against some of the best Edge Rushers every single week. So of course he is going to struggle. Any rookie would. Ok, so why come in here and comment? Go stick to your Eagles website and spew your hate elsewhere where it matters.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Guyton played well his last three games he played. The Cowboys issue to me is coaching. The offensive line coach is garbage. Jerry needs to pay to money for assistant coaches ok next years staff. Stop being cheap. Pay for the best coaches. See Eagles………

100% correct, brother!!! I've been saying this for the past 5+ years! Like you said, Jerry needs to swallow his pride and pay for the very best Oline coach available to come to Dallas and coach up these Olinemen into BEASTS!

 

[Bigrandrn]

Maybe with the 2025 draft high pick we can draft a BETTER left tackle prospect and move Guyton to RT….Steele needs to go anyways and Guyton played RT in college. We GOT to fix the trenches and with a high pick we can find a real stud OL, more for sure than Guyton was.

 

[Phil413Cowboy]

Mazi is worse than the talent around him.

Are we surprise with this circus